us ama
The offence of usama is completely defensive (hiding guerilla, vietnam)
just like the US defence is completely offensive (raiding nomad,
chingez).
They are the same.
The religion of usama is defensive, it is not open.
It is too much like the US.
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Ignore them
And you'll discover the others, the living world.
just like the US defence is completely offensive (raiding nomad,
chingez).
They are the same.
The religion of usama is defensive, it is not open.
It is too much like the US.
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Ignore them
And you'll discover the others, the living world.
Re: russians
Hi wally:
No exactly the opposite. That iraq will sooner or later do a U-turn, I
am predicting (the risk is mine). That all the countries I mentioned and
you mentioned do not have a problem being pro-american, as soon as, as
soon as [!], the US shows in practice (which it is unable to do clearly
at the moment - powell rums cheney wolf) that it will protect the
interests 'OF' the people in these countries, government , well
increasingly they are less effective. These societies are not as
strictly regulated at the ordinary level as the US, though this may be
strange to believe (IRS, INS, DOE, FDA and now Homeland S), because the
government do seem to be 'strict' and vicious. Strange it is, but true.
Many many many do not care at all, or are too busy with life.
The reality, ask any one from any of these countries, is that the
Americans (in govt) have projected an image of extremely short-sighted
and inconsistent dealing and relation building with these countries.
Why. Why so much inconsistency.
Well isreal is constantly leaving a bad taste in people's mouths in all
these countries, which otherwise are very different from each other (and
the whole world - notice!) (yes, Mitzna has an approach for partnership
- sanity.)... what 's there to say except that the US govt is convinced
that extending this instability will serve its interests in the region
by keeping everyone (Israel, Syria, iraq, iran, Egypt .. everyone there
) on their toes, until they acquiesce. The impossibility of this
regarding ordinary people, not just governments, is missed by many
American as if it were an impossible barrier of glass to cross.
This is clearly the wrong way to do things (as many Americans know), the
results of which we are seeing, with the wtc as the most dramatic
example (that shattered the US bubble of self confident (steel)
isolation (glass)) of increasing negative sentiment against the US govt
- take Korea, Japan: would you believe it's the same problem (minus the
Israel excuse) - and they have been US protectorates for the last 50
years.
Has the US failed to convince, or does it have substantively little to
convince others of its short-sighted intentions. When the US govt gives
aid, the American people think its charity, the world knows it is an
attempt to shortsightedly win friends and influence people. Old
paradigms Die Hard 43.
Btw, I never took geography as a subject. So I gave no test. I have just
walked the earth with my feet on the ground. The forces of arrogant
Chaos are winning against the delicate balance of 'justice' - nobody has
the imagination to know what 'this' is anymore. Powell walks a fine
line, but then many American minority labels apply to him, which makes
no difference to him or to what he is doing. This is not pure luck,
either.
Here's a discussion: you can hear some of the above in hum above the
following chatter. Its hard to believe these are people are
running-governing our world.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/content/?021118on\_onlineonly01
As for the Russians, they are in complete retreat. 'they' are
'europeans' the new face-saving buzz word. That's what South America's
had been doing for a while. Quite simply, apart from the terrorism
stuff, the US is genuinely [adjusting, testing by touching] the post
soviet realities on the ground all over the world. It itself is losing
ground in some places on some issues, while winning others sometimes in
the some, sometimes the same, places.
Stop.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] On Behalf
Of Wally Keeler
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:09 AM
To: S. Yasir Husain; list@rhizome.org
Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: russians
----- Original Message -----
From: S. Yasir Husain
> There's Syria emerging.
> And you have Pakistan
> just next to iran next to iraq.
Very good Mr Husain. You passed your geography test. Are you suggesting
a
sort of domino theory?
No exactly the opposite. That iraq will sooner or later do a U-turn, I
am predicting (the risk is mine). That all the countries I mentioned and
you mentioned do not have a problem being pro-american, as soon as, as
soon as [!], the US shows in practice (which it is unable to do clearly
at the moment - powell rums cheney wolf) that it will protect the
interests 'OF' the people in these countries, government , well
increasingly they are less effective. These societies are not as
strictly regulated at the ordinary level as the US, though this may be
strange to believe (IRS, INS, DOE, FDA and now Homeland S), because the
government do seem to be 'strict' and vicious. Strange it is, but true.
Many many many do not care at all, or are too busy with life.
The reality, ask any one from any of these countries, is that the
Americans (in govt) have projected an image of extremely short-sighted
and inconsistent dealing and relation building with these countries.
Why. Why so much inconsistency.
Well isreal is constantly leaving a bad taste in people's mouths in all
these countries, which otherwise are very different from each other (and
the whole world - notice!) (yes, Mitzna has an approach for partnership
- sanity.)... what 's there to say except that the US govt is convinced
that extending this instability will serve its interests in the region
by keeping everyone (Israel, Syria, iraq, iran, Egypt .. everyone there
) on their toes, until they acquiesce. The impossibility of this
regarding ordinary people, not just governments, is missed by many
American as if it were an impossible barrier of glass to cross.
This is clearly the wrong way to do things (as many Americans know), the
results of which we are seeing, with the wtc as the most dramatic
example (that shattered the US bubble of self confident (steel)
isolation (glass)) of increasing negative sentiment against the US govt
- take Korea, Japan: would you believe it's the same problem (minus the
Israel excuse) - and they have been US protectorates for the last 50
years.
Has the US failed to convince, or does it have substantively little to
convince others of its short-sighted intentions. When the US govt gives
aid, the American people think its charity, the world knows it is an
attempt to shortsightedly win friends and influence people. Old
paradigms Die Hard 43.
Btw, I never took geography as a subject. So I gave no test. I have just
walked the earth with my feet on the ground. The forces of arrogant
Chaos are winning against the delicate balance of 'justice' - nobody has
the imagination to know what 'this' is anymore. Powell walks a fine
line, but then many American minority labels apply to him, which makes
no difference to him or to what he is doing. This is not pure luck,
either.
Here's a discussion: you can hear some of the above in hum above the
following chatter. Its hard to believe these are people are
running-governing our world.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/content/?021118on\_onlineonly01
As for the Russians, they are in complete retreat. 'they' are
'europeans' the new face-saving buzz word. That's what South America's
had been doing for a while. Quite simply, apart from the terrorism
stuff, the US is genuinely [adjusting, testing by touching] the post
soviet realities on the ground all over the world. It itself is losing
ground in some places on some issues, while winning others sometimes in
the some, sometimes the same, places.
Stop.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] On Behalf
Of Wally Keeler
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:09 AM
To: S. Yasir Husain; list@rhizome.org
Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: russians
----- Original Message -----
From: S. Yasir Husain
> There's Syria emerging.
> And you have Pakistan
> just next to iran next to iraq.
Very good Mr Husain. You passed your geography test. Are you suggesting
a
sort of domino theory?
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RHIZOME_RAW: Re: An editing job for the ages
And this implies entering each others multiverses without opening flys.
Is it that hard, Wally Keeler poetburo@sympatico.ca.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] On Behalf
Of joseph (yes)
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 9:44 PM
To: Wally Keeler
Cc: marc.garrett; list@rhizome.org
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: An editing job for the ages
Quoting Wally Keeler <poetburo@sympatico.ca>:
> Absolutely NOT. This is simply imaginary on your part. I certainly
respond
> to viewpoints, and my comments are critical of those particular
viewpoints.
> I also consider it constructive to point out that the emporer has no
> clothes. That includes the dissident pointing out that Mugabe has no
> clothes, that Bush has his fly open, that peace activist hurt their
own
> cause. That i s constructive.
Well, it is pretty easy to go around pointing out what is wrong with
someone
else's position. However, it is much more constructive to understand
the
objectives and aims of all participants and then go about building a
mutually
beneficial outcome.
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From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] On Behalf
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Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 9:44 PM
To: Wally Keeler
Cc: marc.garrett; list@rhizome.org
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: An editing job for the ages
Quoting Wally Keeler <poetburo@sympatico.ca>:
> Absolutely NOT. This is simply imaginary on your part. I certainly
respond
> to viewpoints, and my comments are critical of those particular
viewpoints.
> I also consider it constructive to point out that the emporer has no
> clothes. That includes the dissident pointing out that Mugabe has no
> clothes, that Bush has his fly open, that peace activist hurt their
own
> cause. That i s constructive.
Well, it is pretty easy to go around pointing out what is wrong with
someone
else's position. However, it is much more constructive to understand
the
objectives and aims of all participants and then go about building a
mutually
beneficial outcome.
joseph (cor e form art) + (porat per ance ist)
frank + lyn - mc + El + roy
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