Wowzers folks! I seem to be getting messages that are a cross from the
"full disclosure " group and the "Rhizome Multidispliciplinary Art
Group." If this was iontentional I am quite happy to cheer it on. If
it's a bug that's causing it I will have to track it down and see wassup
in all of this stuff.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve'

The Central Scroutinizer wrote:

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Missed this one and it is about a month and a half old. But I doubt this
will fly. It really really fails the "non-obvious" section of patent
law. People who come from or are associated in many way with that
certain technical institute can describe levels of arrogance the rest of
us can only dream of. Of course I have meant lots of computer science
grads who assumes that since they can understand one complex field they
somehow have the same abilities in all. I kid you not that I have heard
things like: :"Well he understands the Unix Kernel and so brain surgery
would be easy for him to understand and do..." Of course the pewrson
who said this was talking about the BSD flavour of Unix, which come from
Berkeley not MIT. Although Unix was supposed to be a simpler form of
Multics which did pretty much come from MIT. Speasking of fun things
about anothetr such place, Caltech, Jack Parsons who was a real "rocket
scientist" in addition to be a person who was deeply into the magic(k)al
theories of Aleister Crowley. When one has intellectual power to spare
one ends up using it for all sorts of things, it is easy to get wowed by
one's own power and this can cause trouble or at least great social
enbarassmenent.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve

Pall Thayer wrote:

> Well, it had to happen. This guy's unbelievable. He admits that he's
> a crappy writer so he want's to make sure no-one can steal his plots.
> He thinks he's really good at coming up with plots. He's in Florida
> and, to tell the truth, I think he's been spending a little too much
> time in the sun. He sounds weird. He's got a law degree plus a
> Masters in nuclear engineering from MIT. He's also helping something
> called Sniplit.com obtain a patent for creating directories on
> computers as described here:
>
> "For example, Andrew Knight drafted and is currently prosecuting the
> patent application on a novel internet business method utilized by
> Sniplit.com. Sniplit.com is the first website of its kind to allow
> sellers in a local marketplace to: a) post a wealth of information
> about an item for sale, including photographs; b) choose his own
> unique web address; and c) advertise that self-chosen web address in
> local advertising media. For example, a person selling an antique
> couch may use Sniplit.com to avoid the high cost and limited
> description allowed by a typical classified ad, and may instead post
> photographs and a detailed description at the Sniplit.com website and
> place the following short, inexpensive classified ad: Tampa --
> Antique Couch, $250, see www.sniplit.com/couch."
>
> http://www.plotpatents.com
>
> more info at:
> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story 051103183218268
>
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Pall Thayer wrote:

> Well, it had to happen. This guy's unbelievable. He admits that he's
> a crappy writer so he want's to make sure no-one can steal his plots.
> He thinks he's really good at coming up with plots. He's in Florida
> and, to tell the truth, I think he's been spending a little too much
> time in the sun. He sounds weird. He's got a law degree plus a
> Masters in nuclear engineering from MIT. He's also helping something
> called Sniplit.com obtain a patent for creating directories on
> computers as described here:
>
> "For example, Andrew Knight drafted and is currently prosecuting the
> patent application on a novel internet business method utilized by
> Sniplit.com. Sniplit.com is the first website of its kind to allow
> sellers in a local marketplace to: a) post a wealth of information
> about an item for sale, including photographs; b) choose his own
> unique web address; and c) advertise that self-chosen web address in
> local advertising media. For example, a person selling an antique
> couch may use Sniplit.com to avoid the high cost and limited
> description allowed by a typical classified ad, and may instead post
> photographs and a detailed description at the Sniplit.com website and
> place the following short, inexpensive classified ad: Tampa --
> Antique Couch, $250, see www.sniplit.com/couch."
>
> http://www.plotpatents.com
>
> more info at:
> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story 051103183218268
>
>
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Giggle! This is why I don't like NYC. I wonder who paid who what to have
this done. Why did the "competent authority" grant a search warrant and
which Assisatant to the Assistant DA decided to lay charges and who he is
a freind of and all those good NYC things.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve

> i'm forwarding a thread from another list that i thought some might be
> interested in here.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:31:46 -0400
>> Subject: New York, Police Raid on Kim's Video
>>
>> This week Kim's Video in the East Village was raided by the NYPD and
>> many staff were arrested. Kim's is a very unique, independent video
>> source for the city. The police were able to identify some pirated
>> material in the collection. Are there any similar stories of a
>> library or archive being raided by the cops looking for pirated
>> material? Do any archives have a procedure on what to do, if the feds
>> show up looking for particular titles?
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/10/nyregion/10kim.html
>> http://www.gawker.com/news/culture/crime/kims-video-invaded-by-the-50
>> -107222.php
>>
>> http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1503863/20050609/50\_cent.jhtml?
>> headlines=true
>>
>> David Rice
>> Archivist
>> Democracy Now!
>>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:45 EDT
>> Subject: Re: New York, Police Raid on Kim's Video
>>
>> To be fair, as much as I love Kim's, they are probably very guilty of
>> copying
>> and distributing these titles -- after all, everybody goes to them for
>> titles
>> they can't get through normal channels and it's their claim to fame,
>> something they actively advertize, and why they do such great
>> business. A good
>> argument can be made that there's actually not much difference
>> ethically from selling
>> 100 dupes of Star Wars on the street corner than one dupe of a rare
>> Fassbinder title. (Though the question of taste arises.) However, I
>> think arresting the
>> staff is way overboard.
>>
>> Libraries and archives are in a different situation, though there were
>> raids
>> of collectors and at least one university (mine) back in the 1960s
>> through the
>> 1980s including Roddy McDowell! Studios have stopped this because they
>> found
>> it better to work with everybody than prosecuting.
>>
>> Dennis Doros
>> Milestone Film & Video
>>
>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:32:32 -0400
>> Subject: Re: New York, Police Raid on Kim's Video
>>
>>> ...there were raids of collectors and at least one university (mine)
>>> back in the 1960s through the 1980s including Roddy McDowell!
>>
>> Detailed info on this at The Smoking Gun:
>>
>> "In 1974, the FBI raided the Hollywood home of Roddy McDowall and
>> seized the actor's large collection of pirated films. The search,
>> conducted as part of a copyright infringement probe, turned up films
>> agents valued at more than $5 million. McDowall, who was not charged,
>> cooperated with the FBI, giving agents the names of those with whom he
>> bought and sold pirated films, according to these FBI records obtained
>> by The Smoking Gun. In a lengthy written statement, the "Planet of the
>> Apes" star even fingered other entertainers who collected such
>> films--actor Rock Hudson, singer Mel Torme, and comedian Dick Martin
>> (of Rowan & Martin)."
>>
>> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/roddy1.html
>>
>> --
>> ;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;
>> Jeff Economy
>> Independent Filmmaker
>>
>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:00:21 -0700
>> Subject: Kim's Video
>>
>> I pass by Kim

Fussy, Fussy details. Which agency's name is on the search warrant and who
granted it? Wonder which media company paid for this one.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve

> i'm forwarding a thread from another list that i thought some might be
> interested in here.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:31:46 -0400
>> Subject: New York, Police Raid on Kim's Video
>>
>> This week Kim's Video in the East Village was raided by the NYPD and
>> many staff were arrested. Kim's is a very unique, independent video
>> source for the city. The police were able to identify some pirated
>> material in the collection. Are there any similar stories of a
>> library or archive being raided by the cops looking for pirated
>> material? Do any archives have a procedure on what to do, if the feds
>> show up looking for particular titles?
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/10/nyregion/10kim.html
>> http://www.gawker.com/news/culture/crime/kims-video-invaded-by-the-50
>> -107222.php
>>
>> http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1503863/20050609/50\_cent.jhtml?
>> headlines=true
>>
>> David Rice
>> Archivist
>> Democracy Now!
>>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:45 EDT
>> Subject: Re: New York, Police Raid on Kim's Video
>>
>> To be fair, as much as I love Kim's, they are probably very guilty of
>> copying
>> and distributing these titles -- after all, everybody goes to them for
>> titles
>> they can't get through normal channels and it's their claim to fame,
>> something they actively advertize, and why they do such great
>> business. A good
>> argument can be made that there's actually not much difference
>> ethically from selling
>> 100 dupes of Star Wars on the street corner than one dupe of a rare
>> Fassbinder title. (Though the question of taste arises.) However, I
>> think arresting the
>> staff is way overboard.
>>
>> Libraries and archives are in a different situation, though there were
>> raids
>> of collectors and at least one university (mine) back in the 1960s
>> through the
>> 1980s including Roddy McDowell! Studios have stopped this because they
>> found
>> it better to work with everybody than prosecuting.
>>
>> Dennis Doros
>> Milestone Film & Video
>>
>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:32:32 -0400
>> Subject: Re: New York, Police Raid on Kim's Video
>>
>>> ...there were raids of collectors and at least one university (mine)
>>> back in the 1960s through the 1980s including Roddy McDowell!
>>
>> Detailed info on this at The Smoking Gun:
>>
>> "In 1974, the FBI raided the Hollywood home of Roddy McDowall and
>> seized the actor's large collection of pirated films. The search,
>> conducted as part of a copyright infringement probe, turned up films
>> agents valued at more than $5 million. McDowall, who was not charged,
>> cooperated with the FBI, giving agents the names of those with whom he
>> bought and sold pirated films, according to these FBI records obtained
>> by The Smoking Gun. In a lengthy written statement, the "Planet of the
>> Apes" star even fingered other entertainers who collected such
>> films--actor Rock Hudson, singer Mel Torme, and comedian Dick Martin
>> (of Rowan & Martin)."
>>
>> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/roddy1.html
>>
>> --
>> ;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;::;;;
>> Jeff Economy
>> Independent Filmmaker
>>
>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:00:21 -0700
>> Subject: Kim's Video
>>
>> I pass by Kim

Oh has been able to do this for quite awhile. If you are a weather freak
there is also a very nice open militarty site that gives real good info in
real time. Usually people keep this stuff quiet because some right wing
nut job call their congressman and something nice goes away. Actually I
think it is good that I get to use some of the stuff (I won't call them
toys because they are tools) In fact not military but a tool that looks
like a toy is called "The Weather Pixie" and it lives here:
http://weatherpixie.com/index.php?page=find&place=KWVI&trooper(&type=&lang=

It take all that METAR report stuff airports and other stations and turns
them into nice icons or plain English, or French or whatever. The feature
that lets you at places around the place of your choice is partioularly
good. It is great for teaching 7 to 9th graders and maybe even adults the
basics of atmosopheric science. So not only is truth out there but so are
the tools.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve

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