Rob Myers
Since 2003
Works in United States of America

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BIO
Rob Myers is an artist and hacker based in the UK.

I have been creating images of the contemporary social and cultural environment through programming, design software and visual remixing since the early 1990s. My work is influenced by popular culture and high art in equal measures. My interest in remixing and sampling has led to my involvement in the Free Culture movement. I have been involved in the public consultation regarding the Creative Commons 2.0 and CC-UK licenses. All my visual art is available under a Creative Commons license.

My interest in programming has led to my involvement with the Free Software movement. I developed the Macintosh version of the Gwydion Dylan programming language compiler. All my software is available under the GNU GPL.
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DISCUSSION

DISCUSSION

Re:


On Thursday, November 04, 2004, at 08:28PM, jeremy <jeremy@silencematters.com> wrote:

>I no longer believe in protesting.
>The very nature of protesting itself creates a division. It is
>exclusionary.

You're protesting against protesting?
Or just excluding it from yourself?

- Rob.

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Net Art Market


Jeff Koons eat your heart out.

Presumably as part of some satanic ritual.

- Rob.

On 22 Apr 2005, at 18:55, Pall Thayer wrote:

> simple, make stuff like this:
> http://www.artincanada.com/danieltaylor/gallery1.html
>
> Geert Dekkers wrote:
>> Actually -- I'd love to know how to sell art -- period. And by that I
>> mean -- how obtain a moderate income as an artist? After a number of
>> years on the game, I'm still stumped.
>> Cheers
>> Geert
>> (http://nznl.com)
>> Jason Van Anden wrote:
>>> I posted a topic a while ago requesting "payment schemes for
>>> digital/online art, sucessful or not". I got one email back -
>>> privately.
>>> I have a few theories as to why this topic may be considered poison,
>>> but then again maybe it was bad timing or my choice of title. At any
>>> rate, I feel this is a vitally important issue so I am giving it
>>> another try:
>>>
>>> Does anyone out there know how to sell digital art? Examples would
>>> be
>>> appreciated. If you consider this a toxic topic - could you clue me
>>> in as to why you feel that way?
>>>
>>> Jason Van Anden
>>> www.smileproject.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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DISCUSSION

Re: hardcore conceptual digital art


I implemented a toy generate/evaluate system ("ae") as part of rob-art:

http://rob-art.sourceforge.net/rob-art/ae.html

It's all in one process rather than two programs.

Here's an example of its output:

Aesthetic:
Criterion: emotional Property: medium chroma Weight: -0.990090351373
Criterion: environmental Property: triangle Weight: -0.92098300276
Criterion: environmental Property: smooth Weight: 0.464487999345
Criterion: perceptual Property: pale Weight: -0.42954300998
Criterion: cultural Property: very large Weight: 0.52576391209
Criterion: political Property: oval Weight: -0.824683353734
Criterion: spiritual Property: star Weight: 0.332525761786
Criterion: emotional Property: scribbled Weight: 0.389517234695
Criterion: historical Property: scribbled Weight: -0.394053851375
Criterion: emotional Property: purple Weight: 0.657695420143
Image:
Figure: Property: smooth Weight: 0.77514274481 Property: medium sized
Weight: 0.804924205912 Property: very small Weight: 0.134779215508
Property: small Weight: 0.998254223669 Property: square Weight:
0.877359494311 Property: triangle Weight: 0.770580597379
Figure: Property: rough Weight: 0.294859738413 Property: smooth
Weight: 0.386463663764
Figure: Property: medium sized Weight: 0.257203904622 Property: very
large Weight: 0.823282759862 Property: grainy Weight: 0.500935480986
Figure: Property: very large Weight: 0.238379999714 Property: medium
chroma Weight: 0.226417026224 Property: large Weight: 0.28003655038
Property: smooth Weight: 0.640733831832 Property: pale Weight:
0.0949973486808 Property: scribbled Weight: 0.306013047604 Property:
red Weight: 0.3334115855
Figure: Property: spiral Weight: 0.225828900109 Property: dark Weight:
0.67675402324 Property: oval Weight: 0.00497709246932 Property: small
Weight: 0.66997465332
Figure: Property: circle Weight: 0.861863092243
Figure: Property: very small Weight: 0.511500266605 Property: star
Weight: 0.633589779492 Property: scribbled Weight: 0.857063666956
Figure: Property: rich Weight: 0.764279205804 Property: smooth Weight:
0.933009749928 Property: line Weight: 0.440738562043 Property: star
Weight: 0.319753143385 Property: very small Weight: 0.703559370589
Property: medium sized Weight: 0.110725644256 Property: bright Weight:
0.684350809239 Property: rough Weight: 0.938225240413
Evaluation: environmental - smooth -> 0.360044502743
Evaluation: environmental - triangle -> -0.709691632443
Evaluation: environmental - smooth -> 0.179507734001
Evaluation: cultural - very large -> 0.432852364581
Evaluation: cultural - very large -> 0.125331601214
Evaluation: emotional - medium chroma -> -0.224173313051
Evaluation: environmental - smooth -> 0.29761317566
Evaluation: perceptual - pale -> -0.0408054470924
Evaluation: emotional - scribbled -> 0.119197356083
Evaluation: historical - scribbled -> -0.120585619979
Evaluation: political - oval -> -0.00410452530944
Evaluation: spiritual - star -> 0.210684924085
Evaluation: emotional - scribbled -> 0.33384106951
Evaluation: historical - scribbled -> -0.337729238838
Evaluation: environmental - smooth -> 0.433371832113
Evaluation: spiritual - star -> 0.106326157588
Score: 1.16168094087

This kind of generate/evaluate (like AI's "generate and test")
aesthetic system was explored in Algorithmic Aesthetics (1978),
available online at:

http://www.algorithmicaesthetics.org/

- Rob.

DISCUSSION

Re: Net Art Market


On 21 Apr 2005, at 19:24, patrick lichty wrote:

> Maybe. Somehow there doesn't seem to be a social contract that buyers
> can make sense of at the moment (or many instances of them)

This is a key point.

But selling people a signed (or signed and numbered) DVD case with the
software and a contract in seems to have worked.

Sol Lewitt gets away with similar.

And there's the Free Software revenue model: customisation and
services. Or commissions and installation as it used to be known.

On the subject of the ephemerality of particular platforms:

I use Lisp for my software art because it's bitfast.
1. It's been around for fifty years and is still the most advanced
programming language there is. Its popularity is on the rise again and
it's likely to be around for some time yet.
2. It's very easy to implement, and so would be very easy to
re-implement if it should ever fall out of favour.
So as long as my code can be copied, and the CLOS and PostScript specs
exists, my art can be run.

- Rob.