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Re: Joseph Kramer's Fall Newsletter


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Max Herman wrote:

Kanindskij, you got nothing to lose so maybe force some people to comment in
public about G2K? Try BH for starters.

Everyone knows about it so you won't have to go far.

Max Herman
genius2000.net

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>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+"
>Reply-To: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+"
>To:
>Subject: RHIZOME\_RAW: Joseph Kramer's Fall Newsletter Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002
>13:30:43 -0700 (PDT)
>
>.fwd
>
>Dear Erotic Explorer,
>
>May bliss and excitement fill your days as autumn approaches. This Labor
>Day
>email is being sent to customers and friends of Joseph Kramer, EroSpirit
>Research Institute, and The New School of Erotic Touch.
>
>After years of playing doctor, I finally became a doctor. I received my
>Ph.D. in
>human sexuality this June. My doctoral dissertation focused on the erotic
>states
>produced during a Taoist Erotic Massage. If you have had transformational
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>
>My Ph.D. program in human sexuality tragically engaged me from the neck-up
>only.
>Therefore, I proposed to the dean of my alma mater that all students have
>the
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>
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>
>I am seeking erotically-gifted masseurs and masseuses from the San
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>are
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>
>Be excellent to each other,
>
>Joseph Kramer, Ph.D.
>
>
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Re: Joseph Kramer's Fall Newsletter


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"-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" wrote:On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Kanindskij, you got nothing to lose

You deserve a slap across the face for that one,
dear Max. You are the one who hasn't got anything to lose,
baby. I'm not you. And I don't care for this 'dare-devil'
knee-jerk propaganda.

Go vote.

> so maybe force some people to comment in
> public about G2K?

Could you be a bit more laughable in your behavior?
You're hardly a soldier, but you're attempting to play
general--just like Eryk Salvaggio.

I like certain qualities in what you do. Don't abuse it.

> Try BH for starters.

Force him yourself, Max. Isn't it more fun to learn to do it yourself?
Or should I send the Nepalese virgins to convince BH to comment on G2k?
I'd rather have them picking raspberries and washing their hands in rose
water.

> Everyone knows about it so you won't have to go far.

Do it yourself, love.
I am not 'participating' in your G2K project.
What's more if it hasn't become evident to you,
the extent of my communication has been to that degree.
G2K is YOUR project. Deal with it yourself.
And quit trying to play the 'leader'
before you even know what that's about.

And while you're at it, go to Joseph Kramer's Sex Seminar.
You might learn something.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

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Re: Joseph Kramer's Fall Newsletter


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Max Herman wrote:

>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+"
>To: Max Herman
>CC:

>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph Kramer's Fall Newsletter
>Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:14:36 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Kanindskij, you got nothing to lose
>
> You deserve a slap across the face for that one,
> dear Max.

Which you just gave me I believe.

You are the one who hasn't got anything to lose,
> baby. I'm not you. And I don't care for this 'dare-devil'
> knee-jerk propaganda.

So now I know.

>
> Go vote.
>
> > so maybe force some people to comment in
> > public about G2K?
>
> Could you be a bit more laughable in your behavior?
> You're hardly a soldier, but you're attempting to play
> general--just like Eryk Salvaggio.

Don't do it if you don't want to. I'm not a general, I can't force you. I
said maybe, I'm not going to hate you for not doing it.

>
> I like certain qualities in what you do. Don't abuse it.

I don't care if you like me.

>
> > Try BH for starters.
>
> Force him yourself, Max. Isn't it more fun to learn to do it yourself?

He'll just kick me off if I force him again. But yes I like to know who's
not going to do what.

> Or should I send the Nepalese virgins to convince BH to comment on G2k?
> I'd rather have them picking raspberries and washing their hands in rose
> water.
>
> > Everyone knows about it so you won't have to go far.
>
> Do it yourself, love.

You already said that.

> I am not 'participating' in your G2K project.

You use quotation marks too much. "I am not participating in your G2K
project" is better style. Never substitute punctuation for good diction.

> What's more if it hasn't become evident to you,
> the extent of my communication has been to that degree.

I tend to forget stuff plus people change their minds a lot.

> G2K is YOUR project. Deal with it yourself.
> And quit trying to play the 'leader'
> before you even know what that's about.

Now you're downgrading me. I think I do know what you're saying I don't
know. And don't say "nobody can know anything," now or ever again.

>
> And while you're at it, go to Joseph Kramer's Sex Seminar.
> You might learn something.

I'm sure I would. Are you implying there are people who wouldn't?

>
>`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Max Herman
genius2000.net

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