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Re: pretty lies


you should whatch vanilla sky
info@furtherfield.org wrote: BODY {MARGIN-TOP: 25px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 25px; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica}P.msoNormal {MARGIN-TOP: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; COLOR: #ffffcc; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, "Times New Roman"}LI.msoNormal {MARGIN-TOP: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; COLOR: #ffffcc; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, "Times New Roman"}This capricious idea which is drowned in an external facade - is nothing but a dream a pretty lie
In time you will learn, yet fears dig deep suggesting that time will be nothing but a tentative barometer
Things look and seem in the right place, everything is exact to your required and lustful measurement
A glowing example of the human race, parading the perfect example of what others should aspire to be
A design - designed to make free spirits worry, worry about the outer space between them and others
On this archetypal product a veneer glows like a glaze which hides the rust that eats away inside
How can one be free when faced by stereo - typical - post - idealists, declaring war on self love
Pictorial delusion infests all hope and advertises a template of which all lost eyes infest on
This mutation of the exterior is merely a polish to hide the inferior mythology which presumes style
It slips and slides and poses grace, hinting pure face as it sniggers choosing a vacuous Armour
And you are fooled by this tinsel wrapping, which reflects how unrealized you really are
This invented criterion is a visual soap opera created for the empty heart who fears the mind
As the recommended lie oozes into place, the myth becomes a reality pertaining the lowest denominator
Dictating the way, the way we should be - deconstructed, instructed - told and sold a classic ideal
It threatens inner smiles and is crushed under steel, it squeals under emotional blackmail
For systematic creed identity is pushed aside for the chosen utopia re - invented, invested
Lives are re - constructed losing thy original core which once burned proud and warm
Post - human triviality distorts our realities, opting for the shield that covers our true selves
Soon we will become acceptable by the soul - less eyes who judge other peoples lives
ENTRENCHED clothed in facile styles, dissected and conformed to the ultimate self mutilation
And all this is because one must concede and conform to someone else's pretty lies

marc garrett (1989)

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Re: How We Made Our Own "Carnivore"


never let them take our dreams---------Pablo Neruda you do not get anymore utopian then that> the sixties were for times of utopia. where the people took their last stand the idea of the human is dead conscience and all (focualt) "give unto Caesar everything Caesar wants" yes that is alphaville and metropo;is and well at&t IBM ect.. AMERICA AND JAPAN AND EU.(baudillard)
when and how to fight: This just goes back to your paraniod subordination. You hear a lot that argumentative people are stupid failures only. this entire statment is to suit your ego only there is no such thing as genius ............................ maybe you just can not handle the word fight does it remind you of your dad.RSG rogain super great. VS. la la la la la ethos la la l al al a just keep reading ...........Confirming that there is a bad-voodoo aspect to utopian unity of dreams, a fascist fake version that is really what humans study all these years of history. i am all for utopia............. i believe we are on our way too it now..........
natalie

In a message dated 6/21/2002 1:41:39 PM Central Daylight Time, portholeaccel@yahoo.com writes:

so, that they can take our dreams from us to .............. yes give up your dreams share them for potential mesh with others collect and trade dreams let them have it all ............................ RSG rogain super great.

Carnivore essay said we had to fight and struggle for our dreams, utopia and such. It's not like "give unto Caesar everything Caesar wants" but when and how to fight or dispute about something.

You hear a lot that argumentative people are stupid failures only. Utopia says otherwise, but you can't prove it, can you? By definition. Which is why Genius 2000 is so great, I'm so successful in net art, and you are correct to doubt and question every superficial statement or idea. So, there ye go.

I mean, I don't judge RSG as the same genre as Genius 2000. Is that a realistic part of the picture here? I'll argue that if you care to debate, distinct utopian genres. It would be a goodly and virtuous debate for the nation.

Confirming that there is a bad-voodoo aspect to utopian unity of dreams, a fascist fake version that is really what humans study all these years of history.

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Re: "sorry, this is not real email


sorry, this is not real email
fancy pants aint sassy fied fancy pants feel that the herd mentality be real low in under standin paradigms an paradoxes fancy pants recentlly talked alot a jargon about nettime and stuff things like salad he be sayin all kinds of fancy pants stuff well i thought fancy pants be talkin about some real stuff he new come find out fancy pants be looking at fancy smarty papers and makin fancy statements about em fancy pants didn't just know fancy stuff damn gonna have to like my engine and change the spark plugs in my salad on broadway bank bank now....................................................
"sorry, this is not real email" <office@plasmastudii.org> wrote: I have a complaint: That ALL complaints are simply the complainers'*
rigid adherence to one perspective, an inability to adopt contrary
views. If you see this complaint as hypocritical, than perhaps there
is also lack of perspective on the part of the reader. If you do not
see the hypocrisy, there is every reason to complain about folks who
complain about folks who refuse to acknowledge paradox.

I have a Caesar salad: That ALL Caesar salads are simply the chefs'*
rigid adherence to a one menu, an inability to work beyond one page
in one cook book. If you are served romaine lettuce, than perhaps
there is also lack of perspective in placing the order. If you are
not served romaine lettuce, there is every reason to complain that
you got someone else's lunch.

I have a nice day sitting outside: That ALL nice days are simply my*
inability to stay in on a cool, sunny day and get work done, an
inability to see my monitor outside when there is so much sun. If
you see that being outside is nice, how are you doing reading this?
If you don't however, try reading a book.

I have engine trouble: That ALL mechanical difficulties (no matter
how metaphorical) are simply results of the owners'* rigid faith in
their investments, an inability of machines to speak in plain English
when they have a message to relay. If you can't interpret the
message, why do you have the machine? If you can, why does it keep
breaking down?

I have these words: "all", "interchangeable" and "banana peel", an
inability of the author*/reader* to substitute one complete thought
for another without creating. If you see meaning, are the component
parts arbitrary? If you don't, are the component parts just
meaningless to begin with?

* all these words mean essentially the same thing: a person who is
dissatisfied with the current state in some way, and makes an effort
to change some element of that state. Though often with no ultimate
change or improvement. They'll be doing it again next week.

complainers keep on complaining
owners keep on buying
salad spinners keep on turnin (yah yah yah)
never reach the Higher Ground

(that verse might have gotten nixed by Stevie Wonder in the studio)

judson

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Re: How We Made Our Own "Carnivore"


so, that they can take our dreams from us to .............. yes give up your dreams share them for potential mesh with others collect and trade dreams let them have it all ............................
Nmherman@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 6/20/2002 2:53:25 PM Central Daylight Time, rsg@rhizome.org writes:

Fredric Jameson said somewhere that one of the most difficult things to
do under contemporary capitalism is to envision utopia. This is
precisely why dreaming is important. Deciding (and often struggling) for
what is possible is the first step for a utopian vision based in our
desires, based in what we want.

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the crisis of identy


Max, who travels worldwide to spread his teachings,says that he has no
political ambitions and called on Washington to open a dialogue. Quebec
Libre officials have criticized the crackdown as heavy-handed.

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