PORTFOLIO (3)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3D Holographic projectors?
Regina Celia Pinto wrote:
> There was a kind of vial where the light sculpture of the castle
> appeared
> magicly inside. Do you believe that is this the secret? What I can
> say is
> that that thing made a strong impression in me.
>
yes i think so, the holographic information was on the class vial
and i think it was taken from a model of the palace....if it was a hologram!
but i cant think of anything else. do you know the artists name?
i am now really curious about this thing. google also didnt know.
all the best nad
> There was a kind of vial where the light sculpture of the castle
> appeared
> magicly inside. Do you believe that is this the secret? What I can
> say is
> that that thing made a strong impression in me.
>
yes i think so, the holographic information was on the class vial
and i think it was taken from a model of the palace....if it was a hologram!
but i cant think of anything else. do you know the artists name?
i am now really curious about this thing. google also didnt know.
all the best nad
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3D Holographic projectors?
Regina Celia Pinto wrote:
> Hello Nad,
>
> Yes, I think you are completely right. However, that time it was
> anything
> amazing for me.
i also find them amazing Regina. light is amazing and
a most mysterious thing.
>The holography was not interactive but I think that
> it had
> not any kind of screen.
holography is basically a way to store 3D information on
a 2D plate (...which i called display, may be that is confusing).
so there must have been some plate. i guess you probably
saw the 3D thing through a glass window? the glass window was
then the plate/display. the holographic information is
"printed" on the glass and the lightbeam is "decoding" the
information into a 3D image.
in the link of the do-it-yourself hologramm (see thread)
the "display" is just an ordinary transparency.
in the case of holograms on credit cards the "plate" is
the transparent plastic coating on top of a metallic layer.
>Of course I know that you know much more
> about this
> than myself, I am nule. I only wanted to tell my experience. Do not
> worry!
>
i do not worry :-) its good if people ask and discuss.
nad
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nad" <nad@daytar.de>
> To: <list@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:20 PM
> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3D Holographic projectors?
>
>
> >i post this for the second time, as the previous post seems to have
> >disappeared:
> >
> > Hello Regina
> >
> > i think what you saw, was probably something
> > i would call a traditional hologramm. especially if this
> > was an exhibition in the eighties. i couldnt find
> > out what was shown in the exhibition you wrote about, but hologramms
> > were sort of hip in the eighties. people are still quite
> > active in this field, but they are nowadays rather banned
> > to science museums and other nonarts places (with some exeptions
> :-)).
> > however since the eighties are hip again (?), we will may be get
> soon a
> > hologramm art revival...:-)
> >
> > and yes regina i think you are right -it would look quite good for
> > dirks purpose.
> > however these hologramms 1) need a screen/display and 2) are
> > sofar not interactive...or lets say only in low quality
> > (please see my links in the thread)
> >
> > BUT DIRK DOESNT WANT TO USE A DISPLAY......!
> >
> > if dirk would use a display, he could e.g. take an animated
> > hologramm, which is not interactive. may be he could
> > switch it on and off....for the interactive part :-( :-)
> >
> > displays in the size of 1x2m are available for 15000 Euros
> > e.g. from this british company:
> > http://www.3d-print.com/holodisplays.html
> >
> > nad
> >
> >
> > P.S. you can produce your own hologramm by using a laser pointer
> > and a programm to generate a digital hologramm
> > at this site by Doctor Stein:
> > http://www.medcosm.com/prog_CGHmaker.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > Regina Celia Pinto wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Dirk,
> >> >
> >> > Someone else mailed me privately she saw something like this
> being
> >> done in
> >> > the eighties, so i guess that might have been a laser projection.
> Do
> >> you
> >> > or
> >> > anyone else know what quality of image such techniques might be
> >> capable of
> >> > in outdoor conditions? Or whether you could have the static 3d
> input
> >> mixed
> >> > with other input like words or part of words going through it,
> >> whether you
> >> > could fade in/out inputs and overlap them in time?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Yes, I saw the castle of the "Facteur Cheval"
> >> (http://www.aricie.fr/facteur-cheval/) as holography in the XVI
> S�o
> >> Paulo
> >> Bienalle, 1981. The exhibition of this castle was part of the
> >> "Outsider Art
> >> Exhibition", one of the manifestations of the XVI bienalle, curated
> >> by
> >> Victor Musgrave. I have the catalogue of this part of the bienalle
> >> with me,
> >> but unfortunatelly it does not show a photo of the holography and
> also
> >> it
> >> does not have any text about it. However I remember that there were
> >> projectors that seemed to be lasers to make the 3d light image,
> which
> >> was
> >> not so big but completely astonishing for me. Perhaps someone else
> in
> >> this
> >> list visited the XVI S�o Paulo bienalle and should give you
> better
> >> information than me.
> >>
> >> I imagine that your catedral could use the same process because
> also
> >> it is
> >> an architecture.
> >>
> >> I hope you get it!
> >>
> >> Regina C�lia Pinto
> >>
> >> http://arteonline.arq.br/
> >> http://arteonline.arq.br/library.htm
> >>
> >> New Works:
> >>
> >> http://arteonline.arq.br/magic_walls/
> >> http://arteonline.arq.br/eva/
> >> http://arteonline.arq.br/ducks/
> >>
> >>
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>
>
> Hello Nad,
>
> Yes, I think you are completely right. However, that time it was
> anything
> amazing for me.
i also find them amazing Regina. light is amazing and
a most mysterious thing.
>The holography was not interactive but I think that
> it had
> not any kind of screen.
holography is basically a way to store 3D information on
a 2D plate (...which i called display, may be that is confusing).
so there must have been some plate. i guess you probably
saw the 3D thing through a glass window? the glass window was
then the plate/display. the holographic information is
"printed" on the glass and the lightbeam is "decoding" the
information into a 3D image.
in the link of the do-it-yourself hologramm (see thread)
the "display" is just an ordinary transparency.
in the case of holograms on credit cards the "plate" is
the transparent plastic coating on top of a metallic layer.
>Of course I know that you know much more
> about this
> than myself, I am nule. I only wanted to tell my experience. Do not
> worry!
>
i do not worry :-) its good if people ask and discuss.
nad
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nad" <nad@daytar.de>
> To: <list@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:20 PM
> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3D Holographic projectors?
>
>
> >i post this for the second time, as the previous post seems to have
> >disappeared:
> >
> > Hello Regina
> >
> > i think what you saw, was probably something
> > i would call a traditional hologramm. especially if this
> > was an exhibition in the eighties. i couldnt find
> > out what was shown in the exhibition you wrote about, but hologramms
> > were sort of hip in the eighties. people are still quite
> > active in this field, but they are nowadays rather banned
> > to science museums and other nonarts places (with some exeptions
> :-)).
> > however since the eighties are hip again (?), we will may be get
> soon a
> > hologramm art revival...:-)
> >
> > and yes regina i think you are right -it would look quite good for
> > dirks purpose.
> > however these hologramms 1) need a screen/display and 2) are
> > sofar not interactive...or lets say only in low quality
> > (please see my links in the thread)
> >
> > BUT DIRK DOESNT WANT TO USE A DISPLAY......!
> >
> > if dirk would use a display, he could e.g. take an animated
> > hologramm, which is not interactive. may be he could
> > switch it on and off....for the interactive part :-( :-)
> >
> > displays in the size of 1x2m are available for 15000 Euros
> > e.g. from this british company:
> > http://www.3d-print.com/holodisplays.html
> >
> > nad
> >
> >
> > P.S. you can produce your own hologramm by using a laser pointer
> > and a programm to generate a digital hologramm
> > at this site by Doctor Stein:
> > http://www.medcosm.com/prog_CGHmaker.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > Regina Celia Pinto wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Dirk,
> >> >
> >> > Someone else mailed me privately she saw something like this
> being
> >> done in
> >> > the eighties, so i guess that might have been a laser projection.
> Do
> >> you
> >> > or
> >> > anyone else know what quality of image such techniques might be
> >> capable of
> >> > in outdoor conditions? Or whether you could have the static 3d
> input
> >> mixed
> >> > with other input like words or part of words going through it,
> >> whether you
> >> > could fade in/out inputs and overlap them in time?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Yes, I saw the castle of the "Facteur Cheval"
> >> (http://www.aricie.fr/facteur-cheval/) as holography in the XVI
> S�o
> >> Paulo
> >> Bienalle, 1981. The exhibition of this castle was part of the
> >> "Outsider Art
> >> Exhibition", one of the manifestations of the XVI bienalle, curated
> >> by
> >> Victor Musgrave. I have the catalogue of this part of the bienalle
> >> with me,
> >> but unfortunatelly it does not show a photo of the holography and
> also
> >> it
> >> does not have any text about it. However I remember that there were
> >> projectors that seemed to be lasers to make the 3d light image,
> which
> >> was
> >> not so big but completely astonishing for me. Perhaps someone else
> in
> >> this
> >> list visited the XVI S�o Paulo bienalle and should give you
> better
> >> information than me.
> >>
> >> I imagine that your catedral could use the same process because
> also
> >> it is
> >> an architecture.
> >>
> >> I hope you get it!
> >>
> >> Regina C�lia Pinto
> >>
> >> http://arteonline.arq.br/
> >> http://arteonline.arq.br/library.htm
> >>
> >> New Works:
> >>
> >> http://arteonline.arq.br/magic_walls/
> >> http://arteonline.arq.br/eva/
> >> http://arteonline.arq.br/ducks/
> >>
> >>
> > +
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
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> >
> >
>
>
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3D Holographic projectors?
i post this for the second time, as the previous post seems to have disappeared:
Hello Regina
i think what you saw, was probably something
i would call a traditional hologramm. especially if this
was an exhibition in the eighties. i couldnt find
out what was shown in the exhibition you wrote about, but hologramms
were sort of hip in the eighties. people are still quite
active in this field, but they are nowadays rather banned
to science museums and other nonarts places (with some exeptions :-)).
however since the eighties are hip again (?), we will may be get soon a
hologramm art revival...:-)
and yes regina i think you are right -it would look quite good for
dirks purpose.
however these hologramms 1) need a screen/display and 2) are
sofar not interactive...or lets say only in low quality
(please see my links in the thread)
BUT DIRK DOESNT WANT TO USE A DISPLAY......!
if dirk would use a display, he could e.g. take an animated
hologramm, which is not interactive. may be he could
switch it on and off....for the interactive part :-( :-)
displays in the size of 1x2m are available for 15000 Euros
e.g. from this british company:
http://www.3d-print.com/holodisplays.html
nad
P.S. you can produce your own hologramm by using a laser pointer
and a programm to generate a digital hologramm
at this site by Doctor Stein:
http://www.medcosm.com/prog_CGHmaker.htm
Regina Celia Pinto wrote:
> Hello Dirk,
> >
> > Someone else mailed me privately she saw something like this being
> done in
> > the eighties, so i guess that might have been a laser projection. Do
> you
> > or
> > anyone else know what quality of image such techniques might be
> capable of
> > in outdoor conditions? Or whether you could have the static 3d input
> mixed
> > with other input like words or part of words going through it,
> whether you
> > could fade in/out inputs and overlap them in time?
> >
>
> Yes, I saw the castle of the "Facteur Cheval"
> (http://www.aricie.fr/facteur-cheval/) as holography in the XVI S�o
> Paulo
> Bienalle, 1981. The exhibition of this castle was part of the
> "Outsider Art
> Exhibition", one of the manifestations of the XVI bienalle, curated
> by
> Victor Musgrave. I have the catalogue of this part of the bienalle
> with me,
> but unfortunatelly it does not show a photo of the holography and also
> it
> does not have any text about it. However I remember that there were
> projectors that seemed to be lasers to make the 3d light image, which
> was
> not so big but completely astonishing for me. Perhaps someone else in
> this
> list visited the XVI S�o Paulo bienalle and should give you better
> information than me.
>
> I imagine that your catedral could use the same process because also
> it is
> an architecture.
>
> I hope you get it!
>
> Regina C�lia Pinto
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/library.htm
>
> New Works:
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/magic_walls/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/eva/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/ducks/
>
>
Hello Regina
i think what you saw, was probably something
i would call a traditional hologramm. especially if this
was an exhibition in the eighties. i couldnt find
out what was shown in the exhibition you wrote about, but hologramms
were sort of hip in the eighties. people are still quite
active in this field, but they are nowadays rather banned
to science museums and other nonarts places (with some exeptions :-)).
however since the eighties are hip again (?), we will may be get soon a
hologramm art revival...:-)
and yes regina i think you are right -it would look quite good for
dirks purpose.
however these hologramms 1) need a screen/display and 2) are
sofar not interactive...or lets say only in low quality
(please see my links in the thread)
BUT DIRK DOESNT WANT TO USE A DISPLAY......!
if dirk would use a display, he could e.g. take an animated
hologramm, which is not interactive. may be he could
switch it on and off....for the interactive part :-( :-)
displays in the size of 1x2m are available for 15000 Euros
e.g. from this british company:
http://www.3d-print.com/holodisplays.html
nad
P.S. you can produce your own hologramm by using a laser pointer
and a programm to generate a digital hologramm
at this site by Doctor Stein:
http://www.medcosm.com/prog_CGHmaker.htm
Regina Celia Pinto wrote:
> Hello Dirk,
> >
> > Someone else mailed me privately she saw something like this being
> done in
> > the eighties, so i guess that might have been a laser projection. Do
> you
> > or
> > anyone else know what quality of image such techniques might be
> capable of
> > in outdoor conditions? Or whether you could have the static 3d input
> mixed
> > with other input like words or part of words going through it,
> whether you
> > could fade in/out inputs and overlap them in time?
> >
>
> Yes, I saw the castle of the "Facteur Cheval"
> (http://www.aricie.fr/facteur-cheval/) as holography in the XVI S�o
> Paulo
> Bienalle, 1981. The exhibition of this castle was part of the
> "Outsider Art
> Exhibition", one of the manifestations of the XVI bienalle, curated
> by
> Victor Musgrave. I have the catalogue of this part of the bienalle
> with me,
> but unfortunatelly it does not show a photo of the holography and also
> it
> does not have any text about it. However I remember that there were
> projectors that seemed to be lasers to make the 3d light image, which
> was
> not so big but completely astonishing for me. Perhaps someone else in
> this
> list visited the XVI S�o Paulo bienalle and should give you better
> information than me.
>
> I imagine that your catedral could use the same process because also
> it is
> an architecture.
>
> I hope you get it!
>
> Regina C�lia Pinto
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/library.htm
>
> New Works:
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/magic_walls/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/eva/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/ducks/
>
>
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3D Holographic projectors?
i post this for the second time, as the previous post seems to have disappeared:
Hello Regina
i think what you saw, was probably something
i would call a traditional hologramm. especially if this
was an exhibition in the eighties. i couldnt find
out what was shown in the exhibition you wrote about, but hologramms
were sort of hip in the eighties. people are still quite
active in this field, but they are nowadays rather banned
to science museums and other nonarts places (with some exeptions :-)).
however since the eighties are hip again (?), we will may be get soon a
hologramm art revival...:-)
and yes regina i think you are right -it would look quite good for
dirks purpose.
however these hologramms 1) need a screen/display and 2) are
sofar not interactive...or lets say only in low quality
(please see my links in the thread)
BUT DIRK DOESNT WANT TO USE A DISPLAY......!
if dirk would use a display, he could e.g. take an animated
hologramm, which is not interactive. may be he could
switch it on and off....for the interactive part :-( :-)
displays in the size of 1x2m are available for 15000 Euros
e.g. from this british company:
http://www.3d-print.com/holodisplays.html
nad
P.S. you can produce your own hologramm by using a laser pointer
and a programm to generate a digital hologramm
at this site by Doctor Stein:
http://www.medcosm.com/prog_CGHmaker.htm
Regina Celia Pinto wrote:
> Hello Dirk,
> >
> > Someone else mailed me privately she saw something like this being
> done in
> > the eighties, so i guess that might have been a laser projection. Do
> you
> > or
> > anyone else know what quality of image such techniques might be
> capable of
> > in outdoor conditions? Or whether you could have the static 3d input
> mixed
> > with other input like words or part of words going through it,
> whether you
> > could fade in/out inputs and overlap them in time?
> >
>
> Yes, I saw the castle of the "Facteur Cheval"
> (http://www.aricie.fr/facteur-cheval/) as holography in the XVI S�o
> Paulo
> Bienalle, 1981. The exhibition of this castle was part of the
> "Outsider Art
> Exhibition", one of the manifestations of the XVI bienalle, curated
> by
> Victor Musgrave. I have the catalogue of this part of the bienalle
> with me,
> but unfortunatelly it does not show a photo of the holography and also
> it
> does not have any text about it. However I remember that there were
> projectors that seemed to be lasers to make the 3d light image, which
> was
> not so big but completely astonishing for me. Perhaps someone else in
> this
> list visited the XVI S�o Paulo bienalle and should give you better
> information than me.
>
> I imagine that your catedral could use the same process because also
> it is
> an architecture.
>
> I hope you get it!
>
> Regina C�lia Pinto
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/library.htm
>
> New Works:
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/magic_walls/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/eva/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/ducks/
>
>
Hello Regina
i think what you saw, was probably something
i would call a traditional hologramm. especially if this
was an exhibition in the eighties. i couldnt find
out what was shown in the exhibition you wrote about, but hologramms
were sort of hip in the eighties. people are still quite
active in this field, but they are nowadays rather banned
to science museums and other nonarts places (with some exeptions :-)).
however since the eighties are hip again (?), we will may be get soon a
hologramm art revival...:-)
and yes regina i think you are right -it would look quite good for
dirks purpose.
however these hologramms 1) need a screen/display and 2) are
sofar not interactive...or lets say only in low quality
(please see my links in the thread)
BUT DIRK DOESNT WANT TO USE A DISPLAY......!
if dirk would use a display, he could e.g. take an animated
hologramm, which is not interactive. may be he could
switch it on and off....for the interactive part :-( :-)
displays in the size of 1x2m are available for 15000 Euros
e.g. from this british company:
http://www.3d-print.com/holodisplays.html
nad
P.S. you can produce your own hologramm by using a laser pointer
and a programm to generate a digital hologramm
at this site by Doctor Stein:
http://www.medcosm.com/prog_CGHmaker.htm
Regina Celia Pinto wrote:
> Hello Dirk,
> >
> > Someone else mailed me privately she saw something like this being
> done in
> > the eighties, so i guess that might have been a laser projection. Do
> you
> > or
> > anyone else know what quality of image such techniques might be
> capable of
> > in outdoor conditions? Or whether you could have the static 3d input
> mixed
> > with other input like words or part of words going through it,
> whether you
> > could fade in/out inputs and overlap them in time?
> >
>
> Yes, I saw the castle of the "Facteur Cheval"
> (http://www.aricie.fr/facteur-cheval/) as holography in the XVI S�o
> Paulo
> Bienalle, 1981. The exhibition of this castle was part of the
> "Outsider Art
> Exhibition", one of the manifestations of the XVI bienalle, curated
> by
> Victor Musgrave. I have the catalogue of this part of the bienalle
> with me,
> but unfortunatelly it does not show a photo of the holography and also
> it
> does not have any text about it. However I remember that there were
> projectors that seemed to be lasers to make the 3d light image, which
> was
> not so big but completely astonishing for me. Perhaps someone else in
> this
> list visited the XVI S�o Paulo bienalle and should give you better
> information than me.
>
> I imagine that your catedral could use the same process because also
> it is
> an architecture.
>
> I hope you get it!
>
> Regina C�lia Pinto
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/library.htm
>
> New Works:
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/magic_walls/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/eva/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/ducks/
>
>
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: what is the name for this type of work?
Jim Andrews wrote:
>
> > i guess the crucial thing, if i understand correctly, is
> > > that the change be based on the previous iteration?
> > >
> >
> > i think they choose the comic images based on some keywords.
> > so they make a choice. like lets say for each keyword (or a set of)
> > there is an image. one could try to "optimize" this choice, like
> > by providing different choices (permuting the assignment of
> > keyword to comic image). this would give a (parent) set
> > of comic strips for a given document. now the viewer could
> > decide which strips are "best" (choice of the fittest)
> > and one could use this for evolving the choices in order to
> > get an "optimal cartoonization". it would be interesting to
> > see what comes out of this, since i could imageine that e.g.
> > if you choose a fighting scene for the keyword tension
> > or a electrical tension sign for the keyword tension, then
> > if you combine this with a comic image for "relationship"
> > (however this looks like...) then it would be iteresting to
> > see peoples choice. but may there is also no interesting outcome...
>
> i see. yes, if the "crucial thing...is that the change be based on the
> previous iteration" then the system is merely stochastic.
> a stochastic
> process is one in which the next state depends on one or more previous
> states.
no. stochastic is another word for "random". you could have
independent random events. random basically means that you
cant tell which of all the possible outcomes of a process
(the outcomes are called events in probability theory)
will occur. in this case you only know the probability of an occurrence
of an event. (like if you throw a dice, an event would be
"get number six", but you know not for sure if you are going
to get number six and in fact this is INDEPENDENT of what you
had before.)
may be you got confused due to the word "aleatoric" (which you
used before).
it comes from latin: alea -the dice. it COULD mean RANDOM (in
fact in french it does - aleatoire), however in art it may
be something different. the term was used first by
Werner Meyer-Eppler in 1954 in connection with electronic music.
here aleatoric means something which is structured by the artist
in the big picture, but has random fine structure.
> so i guess an 'evolutionary process' is a type of stochastic
> process such as you have outlined in your last two posts.
>
yes you are right an evolutionary process is usually a
stochastic process, but in fact you could have a purely
deterministic evolution.(like if you mutate lets say only
the first two genes in a string this would be a fairly
boring evolution)
Nad
>
> > i guess the crucial thing, if i understand correctly, is
> > > that the change be based on the previous iteration?
> > >
> >
> > i think they choose the comic images based on some keywords.
> > so they make a choice. like lets say for each keyword (or a set of)
> > there is an image. one could try to "optimize" this choice, like
> > by providing different choices (permuting the assignment of
> > keyword to comic image). this would give a (parent) set
> > of comic strips for a given document. now the viewer could
> > decide which strips are "best" (choice of the fittest)
> > and one could use this for evolving the choices in order to
> > get an "optimal cartoonization". it would be interesting to
> > see what comes out of this, since i could imageine that e.g.
> > if you choose a fighting scene for the keyword tension
> > or a electrical tension sign for the keyword tension, then
> > if you combine this with a comic image for "relationship"
> > (however this looks like...) then it would be iteresting to
> > see peoples choice. but may there is also no interesting outcome...
>
> i see. yes, if the "crucial thing...is that the change be based on the
> previous iteration" then the system is merely stochastic.
> a stochastic
> process is one in which the next state depends on one or more previous
> states.
no. stochastic is another word for "random". you could have
independent random events. random basically means that you
cant tell which of all the possible outcomes of a process
(the outcomes are called events in probability theory)
will occur. in this case you only know the probability of an occurrence
of an event. (like if you throw a dice, an event would be
"get number six", but you know not for sure if you are going
to get number six and in fact this is INDEPENDENT of what you
had before.)
may be you got confused due to the word "aleatoric" (which you
used before).
it comes from latin: alea -the dice. it COULD mean RANDOM (in
fact in french it does - aleatoire), however in art it may
be something different. the term was used first by
Werner Meyer-Eppler in 1954 in connection with electronic music.
here aleatoric means something which is structured by the artist
in the big picture, but has random fine structure.
> so i guess an 'evolutionary process' is a type of stochastic
> process such as you have outlined in your last two posts.
>
yes you are right an evolutionary process is usually a
stochastic process, but in fact you could have a purely
deterministic evolution.(like if you mutate lets say only
the first two genes in a string this would be a fairly
boring evolution)
Nad