Hi curt,

MTAA wishes they could help out, but sleeping isn't allowed in our studio. Plus, when signing the lease they explicitly told us that we couldn't shoot porn videos there either. Kind of a strange clause, but it didn't stop us from peeing in a bucket for 1YPV. I guess that's not porn though.

Anyway, our studio's in Brooklyn, which all the Manhattan snobs will remind you IS NOT New York City. It's Brooklyn damnit!

A small suggestion, if you truly wish to attain hardcore-ness (hardcore-itude?), you could come to NYC, play on the corner in front of a blue-chip Chelsea (57th st. is another option of course) gallery of your choice, and stay at the YMCA.

Or better yet, play in the subway for change. In August in NYC that would be pretty hardcore because you'd probably die of heat exhaustion without a few gallons of water. Unless you did it on the actual trains, they're air conditioned. But the cops might bust you for that.

This reminds me of the mennonites (at least I assume they were mennonites) that would preach on the corner of Broad and High St. in Columbus, OH when I was in college. They were so cute. They preached as a whole family and they had a boy, probably around 12 or 13. They would stay pressed against the wall in single file, but take turns stepping into the sidewalk with bible held high and yell verses at the passersby. I remember seeing the young kid do it, the smile on his face after he did it. It looked to me like he was so happy and proud -- like he was shy, but he worked up the courage to scream some truth (as he perceived it) to the infidels streaming by in the Big City.

curt cloninger wrote:

> Host This Concept: I Rock America and America Rocks Me
>
> After Beuys "I Love America and America Loves Me" and Oleg Kulik's "I
> Bite America and America Bites Me" -- I won't stay in a room with a
> coyote for 5 d ays or in a cage as a dog for 2 weeks, but I will
> assume the persona of a rock & roll ANIMAL (grrr) for 5 days straight.
>
> In lieu of my semi-annual 5-day solo camping trip, I'll travel to New
> York City with my guitar and amplifier, set up in the middle of a
> designated space (warehouse, loft, gallery, wherever), and perform
> rock/pop songs for 5 days straight. I'll print up rock hymnals and
> leave them lying around the space so that whoever drops by can sing
> along. "Turn in your hymnals to hymn 256 and join me in a rousing
> rendition of 'Suzy is a Headbanger.'" I'll have to sleep some and
> eat some, but people can watch me do those things too if they like.
>
> I'm not from Germany or Russia, but I am from the American South, so
> it's almost the same thing. And I've only been to New York City once
> (for 5 days on a family vacation when I was 11).
>
> Here's my ARTIST STATEMENT:
> http://playdamage.org/55.html
>
> And some PROMOTIONAL MEDIA:
> http://playdamage.org/at/
>
> And some actual proof o' concept "rockin'":
> http://lab404.com/plotfracture/scott/what_goes_on.mp3
> http://lab404.com/plotfracture/scott/cinnamon_girl.mp3
> http://lab404.com/plotfracture/scott/mona_bone_jakon.mp3
> http://lab404.com/plotfracture/scott/hungry_wolf.mp3 (get it?
> COYOTE... hungry WOLF?)
>
> Those hoping to hear Casio versions of Kraftwerk songs need not
> attend. Come to think of it, no one need attend. That's what
> Christian worship, punk rock, and performance art all have in common.
> The monks at Iona preached to the seals, St. Francis preached to the
> birds, The Brian Jonestown Massacre played a 9-hour set to a roomful
> of 11 people, and Beuys showed a dead rabbit around an unpopulated
> gallery. Plus I've been known to play a 45-minute version of Sister
> Ray, which is by THE Velvet Underground of ANDY WARHOL fame! Plus
> Beck's grandfather is fluxus artist Al Hansen, so what more
> provenance do you need? OK, you forced me to take off the glove:
> http://www.twhid.com/video/beuys/singing.mov
>
> In order for the concept to be accurately derivative, the space
> should be in New York City. Other allusively legitimate locales
> would be Berlin or Moscow, but then I'll have to change the ti tle of
> the piece (and I'll have to forego the guilty pleasure of performing
> J.C. Mellencamp's perennial anthem, "R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A."). After
> those three cities, I'm open to a world tour (pending the wife's
> permission), but first things first.
>
> If you or someone you know is interested in hosting this concept,
> contact me and we can work out the details. I'm free between now and
> mid-August.
>
> in all conceptual earnestness,
> curt

One other thing that came out during the keynote yesterday was lots of details regarding how podcasts will be integrated into iTunes.

THIS was very exciting to me. The implementation looks great.

You watch the speech via Apple's site here:
http://stream.apple.akadns.net/

To sum it up (if I'm remembering correctly), one can access podcasts via the iTunes Music Store. You see a big juicy iTMS-like page of all sorts of available podcasts, when you subscribe, the podcase becomes something like a special playlist that lives in the left-hand column with your other playlists, smartlists, etc.

Jason Van Anden wrote:

> Hi t.whid,
>
> Good point regarding VirtualPC. I currently accomplish this by
> connecting my Mini-Box to my Powerbook via crossover cable and running
> Windows Remote Access. Dorky to be sure, but personally entertaining.
>
> J
>
>
> t.whid wrote:
>
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > Being a cross-platform type you should be especially happy. Most
> > things I'm reading speculate that you'll be able to run Virtual PC
> on
> > a Mac with no performance hit. So basically, unless MS quashes it,
> you
> > can run both OSs on Apple hardware -- making your life easier most
> > likely.
> >
> > There a bunch of other reasons that folks are interested but there's
> > so much cover elsewhere...
> >
> > As far as net art (or even software art) is concerned, I don't see
> any
> > big implications, I'm more interested from the
> > craftsman-concerned-about-his-tools perspective.
> >
> > Jason Van Anden wrote:
> >
> > > Am I missing something? I do not see how this news impacts anyone
> > > except shareholders in Intel, Apple or Motorolla. It is as if
> Ford
> > > announced that it would start using Mazda Engines.
> > >
> > > For the record: I develop on Windows XP (VB 6) using a VIA based
> > > Mini-Box for clients/money and OS X.3 (Java/Python) on a G3
> > Powerbook
> > > Pismo for art and love.
> > >
> > > Jason Van Anden
> > >

Hi Jason,

Being a cross-platform type you should be especially happy. Most things I'm reading speculate that you'll be able to run Virtual PC on a Mac with no performance hit. So basically, unless MS quashes it, you can run both OSs on Apple hardware -- making your life easier most likely.

There a bunch of other reasons that folks are interested but there's so much cover elsewhere...

As far as net art (or even software art) is concerned, I don't see any big implications, I'm more interested from the craftsman-concerned-about-his-tools perspective.

Jason Van Anden wrote:

> Am I missing something? I do not see how this news impacts anyone
> except shareholders in Intel, Apple or Motorolla. It is as if Ford
> announced that it would start using Mazda Engines.
>
> For the record: I develop on Windows XP (VB 6) using a VIA based
> Mini-Box for clients/money and OS X.3 (Java/Python) on a G3 Powerbook
> Pismo for art and love.
>
> Jason Van Anden
>

Hi Francis,

Either I'm the most horribly vague and foggy author ever, or you
misread me. It's probably the former.

I didn't even consider having the form actually in the feed (tho that
could be super cool). All I was suggesting is that you put the form at
the bottom of the thread page on rhiz's site. Currently one needs to
click the 'post a reply' button to leave a reply. You could have a
default form at the bottom of the page for a user to just add to the
thread. Saves a click once you get to the site, that's all :-)

Otherwise, it's great! I loves my RSS.

On Jun 6, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Francis Hwang wrote:

> On Jun 6, 2005, at 11:20 AM, t.whid wrote:
>
>>>> One thing that might make it easier. You could maybe put a default
>>>> 'post a message' box at the bottom of the threads. Then if you just
>>>> want to join the thread you can. But keep the 'post a reply' button
>>> on
>>>> each entry so that people can choose to reply to specific entries.
>>>> Might save a click and page load now and then.
>>>
>>> How would such a thing work if you weren't logged in? Anybody can
>>> read
>>> an RSS file, but you need to log in with your email address to post
>>> to
>>> the list.
>>
>> you would just do a check. So when you follow the link from the feed
>> to the site to reply (you could even include a 'reply' link in the
>> feed (in the description tag, after the text of the post). If one is
>> logged in, the reply box is at the bottom of the thread page. If not,
>> a 'login to reply' link.
>
> Yeah, I just remembered that Russell Beattie just started playing with
> this a few days ago:
>
> http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1008482.html
>
> He seems like he's had to spend a little time tweaking HTML to get it
> to work in a few different newsreaders. I'll look into this.
>
> Here's a usability question: Let's say I post something, then you post
> something else, then, say, Curt comes along and reads the RSS item of
> my original post but not your reply. (Let's say he's working his way
> down the items in chronological order.) So he replies via the new
> shiny RSS form and then finds out his reply is redundant to what you
> posted. This wouldn't happen if you just click on the thing, because
> then you see a whole ten-text page. Maybe that's okay? Maybe there are
> ways to mitigate it?
>
> Hm.
>
> Francis Hwang
> Director of Technology
> Rhizome.org
> phone: 212-219-1288x202
> AIM: francisrhizome
> + + +
>
>
>
>

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===

It's true:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html

Pall Thayer wrote:

> I would think that the idea of Apple switching to x86 processors
> would
> be absurd. They must be planning to have Intel make PPC processors.
> Wouldn't they have to be prepared to drop Mac hardware if they're
> going
> to force themselves to port their OS to the same processor that
> everyone
> else uses? However, it would be interesting if, when you buy a new
> Dell,
> they ask, "Would you like that with Mac or Windows?"
>
> PS. Whatever they're planning, I think it's going to bring MS one
> step
> closer to the grave.
>
> t.whid wrote:
> > If anyone else out there is as obsessed with the **Big News** coming
> today at 1PM (EDT), this site is going to be doing live coverage:
> >
> > http://www.macrumorslive.com/web/
> >
> > Also, good posts about it:
> >
> > http://daringfireball.net/2005/06/see_you_intel
> >
> > http://daringfireball.net/2005/06/intel_apple_odds_and_ends
> >
> > The speculation is running rampant on slashdot and other sites:
> >
> > http://macslash.org/article.pl?sid/06/06/0951202
> >
> >
> http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/05/06/06/1131250.shtml?tid8&tid1&tid=3
> >
> > It's been reported on CNet, WSJ and the NYTimes too, so this doesn't
> seem like just another rumor.
> >
> >
> http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.top
> >
> > http://tech.nytimes.com/2005/06/06/technology/06apple.html
> >
> > And this is funny:
> http://stevenf.com/mt/archives/2005/06/apple_to_switch.php
> > +
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