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BIO
Michael Szpakowski is an artist, composer, writer and educator.
CV:
http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/szpakowski_cv.pdf
Video work:
http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi
Stills:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako
12 Remixes:
http://www.michaelszpakowski.org/mickiewicz/
CV:
http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/szpakowski_cv.pdf
Video work:
http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi
Stills:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako
12 Remixes:
http://www.michaelszpakowski.org/mickiewicz/
Re: TO IDIOTS
<..And
your stupid "SPAM" is deadly boring...Watch news,you
insignificant piece of shit!>
Gosh - those guys certainly can construct a cogent and
devasting argument!
I don't have any beef with the assertion that Serbs
have been victims in Kossovo and other areas of former
Yugoslavia -it's clearly true, certainly so since
US/UK intervention, although asking us to believe that
there was no organized, regime led persecution of the
Kossovan Albanians under the old regime is pushing it
just a little.
What I object to (and manik would like us to believe
that this is a necessary consequence of the above,
which it isn't) is their nasty and petty national
chauvinism and anti Albanian racism.
I don't think racism ,of whatever form, should have
any place on this list. How long would it be tolerated
if African Americans or Bengalis or Jews were spoken
of in the terms manik used in their original post?(
which I see they have helpfully appended to their
reply to Joseph - take a look. )
I hope not long.
michael
> MANIK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "trashconnection" <www@trashconnection.com>
> To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>; <list@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:44 PM
> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: TO IDIOTS
>
>
> > Americans and bikers are guilty of murder.
> >
> > m> To all Rhizomers:
> > m> Tonight Shiptar's(Kosovo Albanians) terrorist
> killed Serbs in Kosovo.As
> their Master's Americans(1999 from air) they do that
> like beast:thousand of
> Shiptars killed Serbs civilian's(unarmed,without
> > m> international protection).Destroyed orthodox
> churches,Serb's houses...
> > m> We called all (fools) humanitarian on Rhizome
> to keep Joy(or whatever
> his/her name is with his stupid and idiotic painting
> with his pathetic
> glory) and pay they precious attention to next:
> > m> America produced terrorism!
> > m> Responsibility for all victims is Americans!
> > m> It's time to see killer ayes.
> > m> Killer is U.S.A!
> >
> > m> MADRID=KOSOVO
your stupid "SPAM" is deadly boring...Watch news,you
insignificant piece of shit!>
Gosh - those guys certainly can construct a cogent and
devasting argument!
I don't have any beef with the assertion that Serbs
have been victims in Kossovo and other areas of former
Yugoslavia -it's clearly true, certainly so since
US/UK intervention, although asking us to believe that
there was no organized, regime led persecution of the
Kossovan Albanians under the old regime is pushing it
just a little.
What I object to (and manik would like us to believe
that this is a necessary consequence of the above,
which it isn't) is their nasty and petty national
chauvinism and anti Albanian racism.
I don't think racism ,of whatever form, should have
any place on this list. How long would it be tolerated
if African Americans or Bengalis or Jews were spoken
of in the terms manik used in their original post?(
which I see they have helpfully appended to their
reply to Joseph - take a look. )
I hope not long.
michael
> MANIK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "trashconnection" <www@trashconnection.com>
> To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>; <list@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:44 PM
> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: TO IDIOTS
>
>
> > Americans and bikers are guilty of murder.
> >
> > m> To all Rhizomers:
> > m> Tonight Shiptar's(Kosovo Albanians) terrorist
> killed Serbs in Kosovo.As
> their Master's Americans(1999 from air) they do that
> like beast:thousand of
> Shiptars killed Serbs civilian's(unarmed,without
> > m> international protection).Destroyed orthodox
> churches,Serb's houses...
> > m> We called all (fools) humanitarian on Rhizome
> to keep Joy(or whatever
> his/her name is with his stupid and idiotic painting
> with his pathetic
> glory) and pay they precious attention to next:
> > m> America produced terrorism!
> > m> Responsibility for all victims is Americans!
> > m> It's time to see killer ayes.
> > m> Killer is U.S.A!
> >
> > m> MADRID=KOSOVO
Re: an end to joywar...
HI Joy
just so that we can be clear, are you saying you'd
like us to take the mirrors/works down now?
I've grown quite attached to my contribution and I'm a
bit reluctant to bin it -plus I'd certainly like to
keep my links page to others' work intact with perhaps
a little reworking of the editorial -as you say, cause
aside, there's some nice work.
Obviously if you feel really strongly here then I for
one will do whatever you wish but it would be a shame
to see the "remix" pieces go, I think.
best
michael
--- Joy Garnett <joyeria@walrus.com> wrote:
> Jo-Anne Green wrote:
>
> > I find myself feeling reluctant to see Joywar
> continue.
>
> I too think that Joywar was a fantastic show of
> ingenuity and solidarity,
> and that perhaps our work is done here. I'm not
> interested in turning it
> into a bloodfest. We're artists, not insurgents.
>
> My original feeling stands: that
> lawsuits--objections to sampling--of
> this kind are not meritorious, that they are
> ignorant and rooted in fear,
> that they cramp and discourage creativity, that they
> belong to an old,
> dead world. My worries were met with a fantastic,
> positive creative
> onslaught. Clearly we are all on pretty much the
> same page. Thanks to
> everyone for your creative input, and for your
> friendship ('cause I was
> really freaked-out. thanx, I feel less so now).
>
> I think the main thing was that this "problem" was
> turned
> into a locus of creativity. It's important not to
> lie down and be a
> doormat everytime your principles are challenged. We
> *are* living at the
> forefront of a strange and exciting creative
> revolution. It seems slow
> and weird (it is) but taken as a whole, it's
> exciting. call it growing
> pains. I really don't believe I've done anything
> wrong by making this
> painting from a found image. There is nothing
> immoral about doing what I
> do. I will continue to sample media images and news
> photographs. I have a
> big new project on the front burner. And it's great
> when your community
> supports you.
>
> How cool is that? Let's move on now.
>
> (If something else bad happens, believe me you'll be
> the first to know).
>
> So in the meantime,
> yours in virtuosity --
> Agent.Joy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> +
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just so that we can be clear, are you saying you'd
like us to take the mirrors/works down now?
I've grown quite attached to my contribution and I'm a
bit reluctant to bin it -plus I'd certainly like to
keep my links page to others' work intact with perhaps
a little reworking of the editorial -as you say, cause
aside, there's some nice work.
Obviously if you feel really strongly here then I for
one will do whatever you wish but it would be a shame
to see the "remix" pieces go, I think.
best
michael
--- Joy Garnett <joyeria@walrus.com> wrote:
> Jo-Anne Green wrote:
>
> > I find myself feeling reluctant to see Joywar
> continue.
>
> I too think that Joywar was a fantastic show of
> ingenuity and solidarity,
> and that perhaps our work is done here. I'm not
> interested in turning it
> into a bloodfest. We're artists, not insurgents.
>
> My original feeling stands: that
> lawsuits--objections to sampling--of
> this kind are not meritorious, that they are
> ignorant and rooted in fear,
> that they cramp and discourage creativity, that they
> belong to an old,
> dead world. My worries were met with a fantastic,
> positive creative
> onslaught. Clearly we are all on pretty much the
> same page. Thanks to
> everyone for your creative input, and for your
> friendship ('cause I was
> really freaked-out. thanx, I feel less so now).
>
> I think the main thing was that this "problem" was
> turned
> into a locus of creativity. It's important not to
> lie down and be a
> doormat everytime your principles are challenged. We
> *are* living at the
> forefront of a strange and exciting creative
> revolution. It seems slow
> and weird (it is) but taken as a whole, it's
> exciting. call it growing
> pains. I really don't believe I've done anything
> wrong by making this
> painting from a found image. There is nothing
> immoral about doing what I
> do. I will continue to sample media images and news
> photographs. I have a
> big new project on the front burner. And it's great
> when your community
> supports you.
>
> How cool is that? Let's move on now.
>
> (If something else bad happens, believe me you'll be
> the first to know).
>
> So in the meantime,
> yours in virtuosity --
> Agent.Joy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
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> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is
> open to non-members
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set
> out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at
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Re: found: molotov
< No dead rats from me.. >
Me neither. Of course it wouldn't be helpful.
It does strike me as tragic that someone of such clear
talent and sensitivity should be so monumentally
ungenerous to a fellow artist.
That's why I do think the mirrors and the derived
artworks matter, both as a gesture of defiance in the
face of that lack of generosity and as an indication
that artists, fragmented and isolated as we often are,
can actually act together in mutual support.
I hope people will continue to post the image/make
artworks, although I can entirely understand your
weariniess with he whole thing, Joy!
As a matter of interest what is the time scale? -are
these things incredibly drawn out or is it likely to
be finished soon?
regards
michael
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Me neither. Of course it wouldn't be helpful.
It does strike me as tragic that someone of such clear
talent and sensitivity should be so monumentally
ungenerous to a fellow artist.
That's why I do think the mirrors and the derived
artworks matter, both as a gesture of defiance in the
face of that lack of generosity and as an indication
that artists, fragmented and isolated as we often are,
can actually act together in mutual support.
I hope people will continue to post the image/make
artworks, although I can entirely understand your
weariniess with he whole thing, Joy!
As a matter of interest what is the time scale? -are
these things incredibly drawn out or is it likely to
be finished soon?
regards
michael
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Re: found: molotov
hmmm...I wonder whether it'd be worth you mailing
Pinter, Joy.
He's an extremely good bloke - very prominent, for
example, in opposing the war.
I don't know him, not moving in those exalted circles,
so I can't speak from personal experience & I do know
that he's been pretty ill of late plus I doubt he
answers his own e mails, but it might be worth a shot
-you know, changing coincidence into solidarity
perhaps?
best
michael
--- Joy Garnett <joyeria@walrus.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> just found (uncredited):
>
>
http://www.haroldpinter.org/politics/politics_america.shtml
>
>
>
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Pinter, Joy.
He's an extremely good bloke - very prominent, for
example, in opposing the war.
I don't know him, not moving in those exalted circles,
so I can't speak from personal experience & I do know
that he's been pretty ill of late plus I doubt he
answers his own e mails, but it might be worth a shot
-you know, changing coincidence into solidarity
perhaps?
best
michael
--- Joy Garnett <joyeria@walrus.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> just found (uncredited):
>
>
http://www.haroldpinter.org/politics/politics_america.shtml
>
>
>
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is
> open to non-members
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set
> out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at
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Re: Community
Hi Cody
I joined Rhizome three years or so ago after chasing a
reference to it in Peter Lunenfeld's excellent book
"Snap to Grid".
Hereafter I'm mostly talking about Rhizome Raw because
intersting and commendable as the rest of the
operation is, Raw is what is key for me.
My experience of it has been almost wholly positive.
I've learnt a good deal from it, seen lots of very
interesting work and made some friends and new
collaborators though it.
Its a place that requires you to keep your wits about
you but this seems to me to be no bad thing -in fact
in terms of scariness the contemporary opera list I
also subscribe to is a much fiercer place.
I think the recent groundswell of support for Joy
Garnett through the list and outside has shown one of
it's really positive characteristics at work, that it
proved a way of organising support and solidarity for
a fellow artist under attack.
There are some negative things - I think it would be
nice if there were a wider circle of people willing to
take a deep breath and post, sometimes one might
slightly wistfully hanker for a moderator, although
I'm actually opposed to this, occasionally it can feel
a little New York centric, not that that bothers me
enormously as an Americanophile, at least where
culture is concerned, and on occasion there is a bit
of a feeling of the existence of a 'charmed inner
circle' but I think that's almost inevitable and in
fairness I think steps have been taken to make the
thing more open.
In short: the benefits and pleasures for me far
outweigh the negatives and its made a real difference
to my life as an artist.
I hope after you've completed your research you'll
stick around and contribute- it would be interesting
if you posted your results at least.
best
michael
--- cody <cody@syntheticlives.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone, I just joined this site because I'm
> writing a paper for a college course. Basically,
> the topic of my paper is how digital art can develop
> a community. I was wondering if anyone could help
> me out, either by posting a reply, e-mail me or
> IMing me (AIM:sellout002). Essentially, I would
> like to hear from people who have been on the site
> for a while and have a deeper knowledge of how it
> works. Basically, have you made friends through the
> site (either online or off), have you obtained any
> jobs through the site, learned anything from
> discussions, etc. Really, any information would be
> a big help. Hopefully someone will take the time to
> help me out. Thanks.
> +
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> open to non-members
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set
> out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at
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I joined Rhizome three years or so ago after chasing a
reference to it in Peter Lunenfeld's excellent book
"Snap to Grid".
Hereafter I'm mostly talking about Rhizome Raw because
intersting and commendable as the rest of the
operation is, Raw is what is key for me.
My experience of it has been almost wholly positive.
I've learnt a good deal from it, seen lots of very
interesting work and made some friends and new
collaborators though it.
Its a place that requires you to keep your wits about
you but this seems to me to be no bad thing -in fact
in terms of scariness the contemporary opera list I
also subscribe to is a much fiercer place.
I think the recent groundswell of support for Joy
Garnett through the list and outside has shown one of
it's really positive characteristics at work, that it
proved a way of organising support and solidarity for
a fellow artist under attack.
There are some negative things - I think it would be
nice if there were a wider circle of people willing to
take a deep breath and post, sometimes one might
slightly wistfully hanker for a moderator, although
I'm actually opposed to this, occasionally it can feel
a little New York centric, not that that bothers me
enormously as an Americanophile, at least where
culture is concerned, and on occasion there is a bit
of a feeling of the existence of a 'charmed inner
circle' but I think that's almost inevitable and in
fairness I think steps have been taken to make the
thing more open.
In short: the benefits and pleasures for me far
outweigh the negatives and its made a real difference
to my life as an artist.
I hope after you've completed your research you'll
stick around and contribute- it would be interesting
if you posted your results at least.
best
michael
--- cody <cody@syntheticlives.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone, I just joined this site because I'm
> writing a paper for a college course. Basically,
> the topic of my paper is how digital art can develop
> a community. I was wondering if anyone could help
> me out, either by posting a reply, e-mail me or
> IMing me (AIM:sellout002). Essentially, I would
> like to hear from people who have been on the site
> for a while and have a deeper knowledge of how it
> works. Basically, have you made friends through the
> site (either online or off), have you obtained any
> jobs through the site, learned anything from
> discussions, etc. Really, any information would be
> a big help. Hopefully someone will take the time to
> help me out. Thanks.
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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> -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is
> open to non-members
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set
> out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at
http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
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