marc garrett
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Marc Garrett is co-director and co-founder, with artist Ruth Catlow of the Internet arts collectives and communities – Furtherfield.org, Furthernoise.org, Netbehaviour.org, also co-founder and co-curator/director of the gallery space formerly known as 'HTTP Gallery' now called the Furtherfield Gallery in London (Finsbury Park), UK. Co-curating various contemporary Media Arts exhibitions, projects nationally and internationally. Co-editor of 'Artists Re:Thinking Games' with Ruth Catlow and Corrado Morgana 2010. Hosted Furtherfield's critically acclaimed weekly broadcast on UK's Resonance FM Radio, a series of hour long live interviews with people working at the edge of contemporary practices in art, technology & social change. Currently doing an Art history Phd at the University of London, Birkbeck College.

Net artist, media artist, curator, writer, street artist, activist, educationalist and musician. Emerging in the late 80′s from the streets exploring creativity via agit-art tactics. Using unofficial, experimental platforms such as the streets, pirate radio such as the locally popular ‘Savage Yet Tender’ alternative broadcasting 1980′s group, net broadcasts, BBS systems, performance, intervention, events, pamphlets, warehouses and gallery spaces. In the early nineties, was co-sysop (systems operator) with Heath Bunting on Cybercafe BBS with Irational.org.

Our mission is to co-create extraordinary art that connects with contemporary audiences providing innovative, engaging and inclusive digital and physical spaces for appreciating and participating in practices in art, technology and social change. As well as finding alternative ways around already dominating hegemonies, thus claiming for ourselves and our peer networks a culturally aware and critical dialogue beyond traditional hierarchical behaviours. Influenced by situationist theory, fluxus, free and open source culture, and processes of self-education and peer learning, in an art, activist and community context.
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DISCUSSION

Re: resentment...


Hi Rachel,

> Hi -- I would say that my nod to the actual enforcement of the Patriot Act
> does reflect on the surveilling and repressive political climate we live
> and work in -- but it was also tongue in cheek. I understand you're
> reading my comment with a careful eye, which I appreciate. But let me just
> put this out there -- that if you, or any reader, were to take it as a
> serious warning, or reflection of some inside political knowledge -- I
> didn't mean it that way.

That's fair enough that you did not necessarily mean it in that way, I sort
of knew this yet there is a definite sense of irony in relation to
surveillance, political climate and the situation that you (all of us in
some way) are currently caught up in. For we are all prisoners of what has
been termed as the 'omni war'.

The irresponsible and patriarchal actions of both our governments' effect us
all in many different ways. For it is looking more like (we already knew
this of course) that they are not actually using such restrictive powers for
terrorist threats and dangerous cell groups alone. It is a direct threat on
civil liberties; unfinished business of Reagan-era domestic policies.
Elimination of public freedoms for the gains of the few who rule.

I remember during the Afghanistan war that with many art exhibitions from
chose whom to use their democratic freedom of speech, thus declaring views
contrary to the Bush Administration were being closed down by the FBI. And
many foriegn students were being victimized by ignorant bullies, including
staff, teachers, head masters/mistresses at colleges and schools.

> Marc, I agree with you that the political climate has affected Rhizome
> since 2001 -- I think that's totally reasonable. We are all feeling these
> forces.
>
> But, let me try to delineate how these conditions are affecting Rhizome.
> As far as I can tell Rhizome staff is *no* more conservative than before
> (I don't really want to speak for anyone but myself), but perhaps we spend
> out time differently. In general, peers here in the States seem to be
> focusing energy and time on political mobilization -- especially with the
> upcoming presidential election (can't let another one get stolen!). Vis a
> vis Rhizome, the latest stats on the news, Friday -- CBS, said that more
> than 10% of American non-profits went out of business last year. I know we
> have to spend more time on raising money to survive.

Yes, it serves any mentally unhealthy administration well that non profit
organizations fold in such a climate, for in them probably reside the more
socially aware people. No great loss to those who are not that interested in
collective communities and what they offer people. This defuncts the
positive communication of networks amongst such groups, thus isolating them
from the usual support structures that they had grown used to relied upon
before being clamped down upon, via funding cuts.

> I have not heard anyone say though that there is a need to curtail free
> speech on Raw... or modify our core principles. And no one approached up
> from the Govt. vis a vis Rhizome content. But, as you suggest, I wouldn't
> be surprised if people felt like they had to self-censor.

Nor would I...

I believe that self-censorship is anti productive and merely helps to
contribute to the ever increasing decay of all our civil liberties. At times
like these it is important for all concerned to help and support each other,
whatever nation border that they are currently trapped behind.

This could happen in the form of regular public forums so others can get
involved to take part or secret groups (if concerned with being infiltrated
or attacked) creating their pro-democratic tongs, to further create real
links between people. For it seems that our cultures are not interested at
all in our autonomous sensibilties or needs.

We are witnessing, experiencing the beginning of our cultures being drowned
in surveillance. With the rise of technological surveillance on the
Internet, cameras watching us on the the streets as we walk . And of course
with recent advances in nano technology, surveillance and monitoring
techiniques become even greater threats for all concerned.
'By facilitating the miniaturisation of remote camera technology, the
panoptic effects from surveillance become magnified. It will soon become
possible to place undetectable video cameras, microphones and transmitters
anywhere one wishes. For example, researchers from Hiroshima University and
Nippon Hoso Kyokai (NHK) have discovered that silicon nano-crystal film is
photoconductive.[6] Once greater control over the size of crystal grains is
achieved, it should be possible to use such films in charge-coupled devices
for making highly sensitive, compact video cameras'.
http://chem4823.usask.ca/~cassidyr/OnNano-Panopticism-ASociologicalPerspective.htm

>It's a scary
> time, and in the States the Patriot Act feels real. I mean, after Sept.
> 11, the White House issued a statement saying Americans should watch what
> they say. Literally!! All of the topics you raise -- the economy,
> surveillance, repression, politics -- these are conditions in effect --
> and not just on Rhizome the organization. I mean, I think many of the
> people on the list are also dealing with the more political and economic
> issues -- don't you? Aren't we all dealing with this -- everywhere?

Yes, I feel it here, many do in various ways.

We are sort of lucky really that Mr. Blunket failed to impose such laws on
us here, he tried to but was voted out, phew! Although as you probably know,
the BBC here were recentlyslapped on the wrist for discussing issues around
the Iraq war and daring to question our government's actions. So, it is
reassuring that there are still people left who are not yes people in big
organizations such as the BBC. Self-censorship can happen and does in
institutions, and with the BBC being independent to some degree, harbouring
some pretty astute journalists, as do some of the non Murdoch funded news
groups here. The Uk has been experiencing a balanced and more openly
crtitical study of the current political climate.

Tony Blair is set to be the first Briton since Winston Churchill to get a US
Congressional Gold Medal. But not when he visits President Bush next week
because of the on-going row over Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. We can
all wear own proud badges to say 'I'm happy to be censored'.

> So I am glad you're bringing up issues like surveillance and repression --
> they're not just the matters of art content. I agree that they are
> affecting people, across the board. I would be keen to hear what you think
> we should do to recruit more people or be more representative of the net
> art community. I am interested in the idea of propogating net art...

Regarding recruitment to rhizome:-

Let Mark T have a more Advisory role, a more ambassadorial position with the
aim of actively promoting rhizome's projects and its users without the
hassle of management (he might come over here and beat me up for saying
this). I feel that it may be a very productive move for rhizome's possible
collective future to set-up temporary positions (six months say) for people
who have not had the chance to enjoy working in such an exciting
environment. Like a democracy, open up the position of management, in
whatever form you feel is appropriate to outsiders; they can be voted in by
rhizome members who currently pay fees to be part of rhizome.

I know that it will still be based locally, physically in New York. But
rhizome's influence in the real world in respect of tendering such
significant temporary positions out to individuals/groups of people who are
keen to develop their net art knowledge would be an excellent funding
opportunity. Introducing net art to people who may be are involved in such
creative activities but are not successful due to not having the right
contacts, or from the wrong background. This is a good start. It should not
be done for funding reasons alone though, but because it will open up
rhizome to different communities whom are presently not included. I would
happily be available as an advisor in this respect in some way, just to
begin with though. You might want me off your back after a while LOL.

Put in these positions also those who have no voice in the media, blacks,
more females and anyone else who needs the support. So they can move on to
somewhere else after there six months residency using their gained
experience to set-up other similar groups themselves. Where there's a will
there's a way, as they say...

I have loads of ideas but this email is getting a bit long now.

> I don't want to be negative about a sense of totality or community --
> because what am I doing working here if not insisting on some kind of net
> art community? But keep in mind that when RHizome started there were a
> couple thousand net artists and enthusiasts. Now, the Net is a different
> medium. Being a community amid watered-down hugeness has different
> challenges.

I feel that the only way to survive with the recent watering down of
totality as you mention, is to become less specialized and more open to non
artists, non designers non academics ( I can hear the moans). It is people
who are the blood of any community, not just artists, designers or
academics. We recently got our stats and we now have 6 thousand visitors on
a good day clicking and viewing work on furtherfield. This might be a small
no to yourselves, but for us it is a breakthrough - we have actively opened
up our doors to try and engage with people who do not come from the same
place as ourselves. Visiting groups in various centres who are not actually
engaged in Net Art but offer a sense of curiosity to it. Of course, one
cannot rely on a permanent visitor group level, or even a sustainable
membership that is dedicated solely to any singular group, but re-evaluating
and risking upsetting a few old school institutionally connected types is
worth doing if one breaks down the gates.

Sure, keep specialized net groups going to continue their own specific
adventures. But with a group as big as rhizome, there are only so many
people who will continue to enter here. This of course means that there will
probably have to be a free section, and a paid section as well for the more
involved, like what it is now but more open for participation to those who
do not wish to pay.

And vis a vis our masculinist vibe -- it's depressing, isn't
> it? Rhizome has always been male-dominated, as long as I can remember.
> Last year I tried to get a lot of outspoken women to be active on and
> interested in Rhizome -- but it didn't work. I guess on some systematic
> level, it wasn't organic.

See, there it is - women should be runing this joint for a while, so others
know that this place is not just a male enclave...

I not only see the issue as just a gender problem though, it is also a class
issue (black or white). The professionals are going to have to concede to
the need for others to be involved or the future could be pretty bleak...

marc

>
>
> > Hi Eryk & Jim,
> >
> > The unrequited mutualism between Rhizome and the Global, creative Net
> > community...
> >
> > What are the real reasons for Rhizome becoming more conservative?
> >
> > There are other issues that are not openly discussed on here regharding
> > Rhizome's changes since late 2001. Perhaps the non collective nature of
> > Rhizome today is more to do with the political climate in the world.
> >
> > It is not a coincidence that Rhizome's changes are also in keeping with
> > the political shifts regarding its own cultural locality and nationhood,
> > its gradual dumbing down of being involved openly with artists who are
> > contextually political in their net art-work and moving (even more)
> > towards consciously advocating self referential net art, a natural
> > side-step towards a more institutionalised role, is worrying.
> >
> > Since the introduction of the 'Patriot Act October' on 26th 2001 by the
> > Bush administration (as everyone knows in the whole wide world) are a
very
> > nasty bunch of rich people who kill and maim lives. 'The FBI and CIA can
> > now go from phone to phone, computer to computer without demonstrating
> > that each is even being used by a suspect or target of an order. The
> > government may now serve a single wiretap, FISA wiretap or pen/trap
order
> > on any person or entity nationwide, regardless of whether that person or
> > entity is named in the order. The government need not make any showing
to
> > a court that the particular information or communication to be acquired
is
> > relevant to a criminal investigation. In the pen/trap or FISA
situations,
> > they do not even have to report where they served the order or what
> > information they received.'
> >
http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism_militias/20011031_eff_usa_patriot_analysis.php
> >
> > Rachel's suggestion to all those who participate with Amy Alexander's
> > excellent piece called 'PPMMM' in the latest Net Art News felt
significant
> > with her added warning 'The artist also recommends sending your slogans
to
> > Washington, but considering the reach and force of the Patriot Act, we
> > suggest users proceed with caution'. Which is an honourable suggestion
in
> > view of how after Sept 11, America's own people are even considered
> > potential enemies.
> >
> > I wrote a brief article days after Sept 11 called 'Spies on the net -
> > thought control- denial - and of course another stupid war'.
> >
> > 'Beware everyone, for we are going to experience sweeping control laws,
> > enforcing non privacy on the net and in our communities. Using the
masses
> > emotional grief as a barometer. Emotional blackmail (a cruel weapon,
also
> > used by religions to gain control over others) will be used to halt
> > creative freedom and valid information, correspondence between
individuals
> > and organisations'.
> >
> > So how significant is the force of the Patriot Act? How much has
political
> > pressure influenced todays Rhizome? Has Mark Tribe been approached by a
> > government ape, telling him to hang back with the bruts?
> >
> > Is there a self censorship happening on Rhizome?
> >
> > Are we all our discussions being monitored by those who would rather us
> > just talk about how nice America is, and coding, abstraction is cute?
> >
> > the Patriot Act must have an influence on the way that Rhizome acts.
This
> > could also mean that art that is linked to America's empire like
> > activities and the war might not be supported or promoted via Net Art
News
> > as often, or sometimes not accepted onto the database. Creating an
> > environment that is not conducive to questioning structural elements in
a
> > political sense.
> >
> > So is Rhizome more conservative now? Less inclined in supporting those
who
> > the roles, purposes of corrupt politicians, military and backward
> > organizations and institutions that control what we all see?
> >
> > There was a very good comment posted by Geert, not sure if many read it
or
> > saw it. He said 'If there is to be a true discussion on digital art, it
> > should be about the way art should or could propogate through the art
> > community'. It would serve any controlling government organization well
if
> > we were to all talk about art in the micro sense and ignore the bigger
> > picture, like why that wall is there and for whom that picture really
> > hangs on the walls for. This is all part of art thinking, not just the
> > object.
> >
> > I still think that Rhizome has a lot to offer, that is why I am still
> > here, and I know that many users on this list also feel this way.
> >
> > We are living in very strange and emotionally backward and violent
times -
> > everyone knows that the attack on Iraq was wrong. Yet, no one can do
> > anything about it. Who can police those who are more keen in helping
> > themselves and more keen on feeding corporate greed?
> >
> > And if everyone, still thinks that them being spied upon by their
> > governemnts is not really happening and is based on poranoid delusions;
> > I'd say that they are naive not to know what is actually at stake for
all
> > concerned.
> >
> > There are many digital/web/net artists outside of America's borders,
> > outside of Rhizome's borders (and within) who did and still do wish for
> > something more progressive, integrated, consciously, actively
> > contributing, working with and networking for community based intentions
> > in a more openly global way, less centralized, more decentralized.
> >
> > I kind of feel that Rhizome is much more of a (masculine orientated)
> > business venture now. Money seems to be its main goal, also seen by
> > outsiders as supporting its own (American based) peer related
colleagues,
> > rather than the creative Internet community as a whole. It is no longer
> > rhizomatic, more like a weed that grows in locality to its own habitual
> > environment. In the UK we have an organizational body that follows via
> > protocol called the 'trades description act'. If it was based here in
this
> > country there would be in trouble for selling a product that does not
> > reflect what it says on the label of the tin.
> >
> > So is Rhizome censored?
> > And by whom?
> > Is this one reason for the changes?
> >
> > marc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The resentment issue is going to stick around for a while, because no
> >> one
> >> (by "no one" I mean Mark Tribe) has really addressed it, and no one
> >> (Mark
> >> Tribe) seems interested in addressing it. I am sure they have a steady
> >> increase in new subscribers, though I am at a loss to explain how it
> >> would
> >> happen- (closed circuits don't invite expansion).
> >>
> >> -e.
> >>
> >> (Mark Tribe)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "marc.garrett" <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
> >> To: <list@rhizome.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 3:38 PM
> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: resentment...
> >>
> >>
> >> > Found this on the Syndicate list..
> >> >
> >> > seemjs like there is a lot of resentment out there...
> >> >
> >> > marc
> >> > look below
> >> >
> >> > In case you've been meaning to renew your Rhizome membership
> >> > NO have not thought about it not even once but thanks for proving
that
> >> you
> >> > are nothing but a propaganda and scrouge dog-e digger from the
> >> netherworld
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > but just haven't gotten around to it yet, this is a quick note
> >> >
> >> > will never get around to it would rather spend five dollars
> >> toiletpaper
> >> > practical POOPY POOP
> >> >
> >> > to say that we'd love to have you back.
> >> >
> >> > No you would not you want my money Go Get Big AmeriKan Grant That
> >> Supports
> >> > The Big AmeriKan Arts ha hahahhahaa ___AmeriKa Does Not Support The
> >> Arts
> >> > !!!!!!
> >> > we have principles like L.Armstrong NO RHIZOME!!!!!!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> > hah aha ahah ahahah ahah aha hah aha ha all day long
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> >> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> >> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> >> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
> >> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> >> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> >> > +
> >> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> >> > Membership Agreement available online at
> >> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>

DISCUSSION

Re: resentment...


Hi Eryk & Jim,

The unrequited mutualism between Rhizome and the Global, creative Net commu=
nity...

What are the real reasons for Rhizome becoming more conservative?

There are other issues that are not openly discussed on here regharding Rhi=
zome's changes since late 2001. Perhaps the non collective nature of Rhizom=
e today is more to do with the political climate in the world.

It is not a coincidence that Rhizome's changes are also in keeping with the=
political shifts regarding its own cultural locality and nationhood, its g=
radual dumbing down of being involved openly with artists who are contextua=
lly political in their net art-work and moving (even more) towards consciou=
sly advocating self referential net art, a natural side-step towards a more=
institutionalised role, is worrying.

Since the introduction of the 'Patriot Act October' on 26th 2001 by the Bus=
h administration (as everyone knows in the whole wide world) are a very nas=
ty bunch of rich people who kill and maim lives. 'The FBI and CIA can now g=
o from phone to phone, computer to computer without demonstrating that each=
is even being used by a suspect or target of an order. The government may =
now serve a single wiretap, FISA wiretap or pen/trap order on any person or=
entity nationwide, regardless of whether that person or entity is named in=
the order. The government need not make any showing to a court that the pa=
rticular information or communication to be acquired is relevant to a crimi=
nal investigation. In the pen/trap or FISA situations, they do not even hav=
e to report where they served the order or what information they received.'
http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism_militias/20011031_eff_usa=
_patriot_analysis.php

Rachel's suggestion to all those who participate with Amy Alexander's excel=
lent piece called 'PPMMM' in the latest Net Art News felt significant with =
her added warning 'The artist also recommends sending your slogans to Washi=
ngton, but considering the reach and force of the Patriot Act, we suggest u=
sers proceed with caution'. Which is an honourable suggestion in view of ho=
w after Sept 11, America's own people are even considered potential enemies=
.

I wrote a brief article days after Sept 11 called 'Spies on the net - thoug=
ht control- denial - and of course another stupid war'.

'Beware everyone, for we are going to experience sweeping control laws, enf=
orcing non privacy on the net and in our communities. Using the masses emot=
ional grief as a barometer. Emotional blackmail (a cruel weapon, also used =
by religions to gain control over others) will be used to halt creative fre=
edom and valid information, correspondence between individuals and organisa=
tions'.

So how significant is the force of the Patriot Act? How much has political =
pressure influenced todays Rhizome? Has Mark Tribe been approached by a gov=
ernment ape, telling him to hang back with the bruts?

Is there a self censorship happening on Rhizome?

Are we all our discussions being monitored by those who would rather us jus=
t talk about how nice America is, and coding, abstraction is cute?

the Patriot Act must have an influence on the way that Rhizome acts. This c=
ould also mean that art that is linked to America's empire like activities =
and the war might not be supported or promoted via Net Art News as often, o=
r sometimes not accepted onto the database. Creating an environment that is=
not conducive to questioning structural elements in a political sense.

So is Rhizome more conservative now? Less inclined in supporting those who =
the roles, purposes of corrupt politicians, military and backward organizat=
ions and institutions that control what we all see?

There was a very good comment posted by Geert, not sure if many read it or =
saw it. He said 'If there is to be a true discussion on digital art, it sho=
uld be about the way art should or could propogate through the art communit=
y'. It would serve any controlling government organization well if we were =
to all talk about art in the micro sense and ignore the bigger picture, lik=
e why that wall is there and for whom that picture really hangs on the wall=
s for. This is all part of art thinking, not just the object.

I still think that Rhizome has a lot to offer, that is why I am still here,=
and I know that many users on this list also feel this way.

We are living in very strange and emotionally backward and violent times - =
everyone knows that the attack on Iraq was wrong. Yet, no one can do anythi=
ng about it. Who can police those who are more keen in helping themselves a=
nd more keen on feeding corporate greed?

And if everyone, still thinks that them being spied upon by their governemn=
ts is not really happening and is based on poranoid delusions; I'd say that=
they are naive not to know what is actually at stake for all concerned.

There are many digital/web/net artists outside of America's borders, outsid=
e of Rhizome's borders (and within) who did and still do wish for something=
more progressive, integrated, consciously, actively contributing, working =
with and networking for community based intentions in a more openly global =
way, less centralized, more decentralized.

I kind of feel that Rhizome is much more of a (masculine orientated) busine=
ss venture now. Money seems to be its main goal, also seen by outsiders as =
supporting its own (American based) peer related colleagues, rather than th=
e creative Internet community as a whole. It is no longer rhizomatic, more =
like a weed that grows in locality to its own habitual environment. In the =
UK we have an organizational body that follows via protocol called the 'tra=
des description act'. If it was based here in this country there would be i=
n trouble for selling a product that does not reflect what it says on the l=
abel of the tin.

So is Rhizome censored?
And by whom?
Is this one reason for the changes?

marc

>
> The resentment issue is going to stick around for a while, because no one
> (by "no one" I mean Mark Tribe) has really addressed it, and no one (Mark
> Tribe) seems interested in addressing it. I am sure they have a steady
> increase in new subscribers, though I am at a loss to explain how it would
> happen- (closed circuits don't invite expansion).
>
> -e.
>
> (Mark Tribe)
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "marc.garrett" <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
> To: <list@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 3:38 PM
> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: resentment...
>
>
> > Found this on the Syndicate list..
> >
> > seemjs like there is a lot of resentment out there...
> >
> > marc
> > look below
> >
> > In case you've been meaning to renew your Rhizome membership
> > NO have not thought about it not even once but thanks for proving that =
you
> > are nothing but a propaganda and scrouge dog-e digger from the netherwo=
rld
> >
> >
> > but just haven't gotten around to it yet, this is a quick note
> >
> > will never get around to it would rather spend five dollars toiletpaper
> > practical POOPY POOP
> >
> > to say that we'd love to have you back.
> >
> > No you would not you want my money Go Get Big AmeriKan Grant That Suppo=
rts
> > The Big AmeriKan Arts ha hahahhahaa ___AmeriKa Does Not Support The Arts
> > !!!!!!
> > we have principles like L.Armstrong NO RHIZOME!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > hah aha ahah ahahah ahah aha hah aha ha all day long
> >
> >
> >
> > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > +
> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> >
>
>

DISCUSSION

resentment...


Found this on the Syndicate list..

seemjs like there is a lot of resentment out there...

marc
look below

In case you've been meaning to renew your Rhizome membership
NO have not thought about it not even once but thanks for proving that you
are nothing but a propaganda and scrouge dog-e digger from the netherworld

but just haven't gotten around to it yet, this is a quick note

will never get around to it would rather spend five dollars toiletpaper
practical POOPY POOP

to say that we'd love to have you back.

No you would not you want my money Go Get Big AmeriKan Grant That Supports
The Big AmeriKan Arts ha hahahhahaa ___AmeriKa Does Not Support The Arts
!!!!!!
we have principles like L.Armstrong NO RHIZOME!!!!!!!!!!!

hah aha ahah ahahah ahah aha hah aha ha all day long

DISCUSSION

where r u ? where would u like 2 b ?


Get involved...

final call for participation

where r u ? where would u like 2 b ?
http://www.herenorthere.org/

DISCUSSION

the SAM Diaries - A collaboraritive project.


A collaboraritive project.
Please read any of the Sleazy Art Meeting Diaries (SAM).
And then send wave/mp3 files back to me me in whatever
language that you have decided to read them in.

http://www.furtherfield.org/mgarrett/the_sam_diaries/

marc garrett