manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic
Since 2002
Works in United States of America

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BIO
Belgrade artists Marija Vauda and Nikola Pilipovic have been
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.

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DISCUSSION

Re: Proof that Death is a Dirty Liar even at age FortySeven


PUSI KURAC!
----- Original Message -----
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
To: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Proof that Death is a Dirty Liar even at age
FortySeven

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Well Death I did have it.
>
> I'm sorry if you failed to catch the humor of my statement,
> Max. I wasn't talking about actual welding of men and machine,
> but poking fun at a typical misunderstanding. Your subsequent
> knee-jerking is ridiculous. Hence I wasn't talking about
> actual welding of man and machine.
>
> > Now you and your NKVD pals can send me a big
> > anthrax souffle,
>
> Don't flatter yourself. The NKVD is hardly interested in you.
>
> > and you can ripragrip until I agree to learn Iaido,
>
> I never cared to have you agree to learn Iaido.
>
> > battle against the false self.
>
> again, you rattle off flatly about things you don't grasp.
>
> > Something I know nothing about because I
> > never had a dippy French ho for a mom or hung out with the Krupps.
>
> Excuse me, but you're idiotic. There is no reason for
> you to involve people who are not here to speak for themselves.
>
>
> > Frankly, I loved your avuncular confidence at first but now you are
nothing
> > but a dirty manipulative liar and control freak.
>
> That would be you, Max. Not only that, but you're childish
> naive and illiterate.
>
> > You'll never get me in your fuckin Turkish labs.
>
> You already are in them.
>
> > You must be a weapons developer.
>
> Yeah, I must be. I'm the boogey man.
>
> > Yeah, G2K causes wars. For that you are getting the big super-slap,
> > long-distance and spiritual.
>
> No, I am not. You are causing wars. And so is G2K.
>
> > I need you like a hole in the head.
>
> I certainly don't care for your 'needing' me.
> Neediness is clinginess is sapping emotional attachment.
> I'm not your mommy, and you're not 2 years old.
> That's about the only time justifiable for a human being
> to need another.
>
> > Also, fuck you bitch.
>
> No, thanks.
>
> > Dirty fuckin liar.
>
> Sorry Max. I am not a liar. Learn to read. And I don't mean
> just mouthing off signs you see on a page and shuffling them about.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
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DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Death is a Damned Dirty Liar


DURAK!
----- Original Message -----
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
To: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 3:18 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Death is a Damned Dirty Liar

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > > No, thank you.
> >
> > It's not optional.
>
> It absolutely is. Pathetic bully.
>
> > Yes you are abstruse, flatulent, prideful, and a bully.
>
> You're talking about yourself, Max.
> Go SHOUT elsewhere.
>
> > Well I think you want to bust something up.
>
> You can't think. Nor do I ant to 'bust anything up'.
>
> > You're the grossest.
>
> Childish imbecility.
>
> > > Uhm, sorry, I have no 'underground bunkers' nor do I aspire to any.
> > > As for iaido--this is not a matter you're familiar with.
> >
> > Yes it is you dirty bitch.
>
> No, it isn't. And please save words like 'dirty bitch' for yourself.
> You're pathetic and abusive.
>
> > Send me some money or shut your dirty face.
>
> I don't think so, idiot.
>
> > Yes you have touched me,
>
> No, I haven't touched you.
>
> > you are dirty,
>
> No, I am not dirty.
>
> > and yes you are a dirty ape.
>
> Nope, that is you. And you choose to remain as such.
>
> > Blow me some more gassy
>
> that is what you're doing.
>
> > you weapons-building rich Russian swine.
>
> I'm neither weapons-building, nor Russian.
> And being rich is not a fault.
>
> > Shut up bitch.
>
> Excuse me. Go order someone else.
> You're an idiotic, sexually retarded moron, indeed.
>
> > Yeah I guess I better so you don't get to sell your bombs and kill all
the
> > apes and ordinary murderous garbage-humans.
>
> I've never advocated murder or sold bombs.
> You're clearly cuckoo.
>
> > Yes you did bitch. You are a sick piece of flesh.
>
> No, I didn't. You're being dumb-assedly illiterate.
> So no, I didn't SAY it. Nor did I write exactly
> what you claim that I've written. You're a cuckoo idiot.
>
> > Keep backpedaling motherfucker.
>
> I leave that to you.
>
> > Well, I'm going to have to keep slapping on you then liar.
>
> You're not 'slapping' anything but yourself.
> Go ahead. Knock yourself out.
>
> > Brilliant. I admire you and other powerful awake people who can change
the
> > world.
>
> As you should. But unfortunately, you don't.
> You want to pose as one of.
>
> > I also love your spoiled French mom
>
> Why do you bring up people who are not here, Max?
> Easy targets?
>
> > and patrician flavor.
>
> There's nothing 'patrician' about my flavor.
> Learn to use words appropriately.
>
>
> > lecture me more about my incompetence and weakness and corruption.
>
> I don't lecture. You are incompetent, weak, and you degrade yourself.
> And nobody else does it to you, but yourself.
>
> > You are one fat dirty bastard
>
> I'm neither fat nor dirty.
>
> > and king pimp
>
> The pimp here is you, baby.
>
> > from an ancient line of pimp-expert awake Thetans
>
> Idiot.
>
> > who like to do Iaido and create horrible weapons
>
> Imbecile.
>
> > but also lie
>
> I don't lie. You're simply dogmatic, and have a very weak understanding
> of language.
>
> > in order to degrade Genius 2000.
>
> Genius 2000 is already degraded enough by itself.
>
> > Like say Tom Sherman.
>
> No, sorry. Leave Tom Sherman out of it.
>
> > talking right? You make me sick.
>
> No--I was thinking of the post to thingist. I wasn't thinking
> of a humorous comment I made to you.
>
> > If you are ever in a nursing home where
> > I'm working I'll make you wait an hout before I change your diaper.
>
> I am not going to be in a nursing home, ever.
>
> > Yes you do. You are to the manner born. You're a liar. Funny haha.
>
> No, Max. YOu are a LIAR. HAHA.
>
> > Why don't you quit crying bully bitch,
>
> I am not crying, idiot. The bully here is you.
>
> > your Mom is either dead or cooking coquilles.
>
> Right. Again--you insult people who are not here to
> speak for themselves because? It's easy no? Bully.
>
>
> > You insult me like a dog eats Alpo
>
> No, Max. I treat you as you deserve to be treated.
>
> > and call me a bully. That's
> > great. Bully. Bully. It's lying confident fucks like you that G2K is
> > going to wax back on. Don't take my word for it.
>
> You are pathetic.
>
> > Your brain is mush.
>
> My brain is just fine.
>
> > Incredulous is a blunder by you the illiterate
>
> I am not illiterate, Max. Unlike you.
>
> > decrepit
>
> Nor am I decrepit.
>
> > lying
>
> Nor am I lying.
>
> > weapons designer
>
> And this my dear is slander. I have never been, nor will I ever be
> a weapons designer.
>
> > You are a complacent dilettante pig.
>
> The only 'complacent dilettante pig' here is you.
> Make sure you don't ejaculate over your keyboard.
>
> > Your time is over.
>
> My time has just begun, baby. You're pathetic.
> Go take out your problems elsewhere.
> This is precisely how you treat people on this list--
> you bully them because of your unresolved issues
> and pass that on as revolutionary.
>
>
> > I'm amazed at you now,
>
> No, you're not. You're a hypocritical poser.
>
> > your swinishness,
>
> Yours only.
>
> > your cravenness,
>
> Yours only.
>
> > your squealing and Commander Blop bullshit.
>
> Yours only, babe. I'm not the one running around trying
> to 'convince' 'coerce' and bully people.
>
> > Plus you are an effete,
>
> Nope.
>
> > idiotic,
>
> Nope.
>
> > uncultured liar.
>
> I'm far more 'cultured' in a proper sense than you will ever be.
>
> > Pathetic.
>
> You are indeed.
>
> > Keep your fuckin face hid liar.
>
> No.
>
> > Yeah you fuckin are so just suck it up.
>
> No, I am not. But YOU are.
>
> > Who ever told you you were so fresh?
>
> I am not 'fresh'.
>
> > You got old-people smell and old-world mildew all up in your toupee.
>
> Right-o. Not at all.
>
> > Hey good for you fuckface. If you send any bitches to wax me,
>
> Right. Ill send the KGB right over.
>
> > come hard. Plus I don't want info about you anymore.
>
> Right.
>
> > You're a flaccid
>
> Unlikely.
>
> > antiquarian nitpicker
>
> The one 'nitpicking' illiterately is you.
>
> > who lies
>
> I do not lie.
>
> > and degrades for fun,
>
> Nor do I degrade. Lying and degradation is G2K's speciality.
> That's really what your project is about.
>
> > all in the service of
> > the awake people--or the partially awake ones.
>
> Ne. What I am in service of, is not any of your business.
>
> > you to eat with yogurt sauce. You're the lowest form of life, a cocky
> > exoticist liar.
>
> Ne. Not a liar. But a liar, you are.
>
> > Laugh it up fuckface. And yes bring any heat you want.
>
> You're really not important Max. Nor do you bother me.
>
> > God damn I had you pegged as not a filthy cowardly liar and dirty
squealing punk hater.
>
> I am neither filthy, nor cowardly, nor a liar.
> Nor do I hate.
>
> > Plus lying
>
> I am not a liar.
>
> > powerful awake bitches like you who are taking care of everyting
> > and saving the world by welding man and machine.
>
> You're stupid and immature. I'm sure your idols will applaud you
> for 'kicking it to the man'. All the while laughing their
> heads of together with the man.
>
> > Yeah you did,
>
> Nope, I didn't.
>
> > and then lied about it,
>
> Nope, I didn't.
>
> > because it sounds bad,
>
> It doesn't sound bad. It was part of a humorous conversation which
> you're perverting out of context.
>
> > and is bad,
>
> No, it isn't. Man and machine are already 'welded'.
> Your perception is dictated by technology. Wake up.
>
> > Thanks for testing it, and no, the Army would never take me for more
reasons
> > than that.
>
> I am not involved with the Army. You're pathetic and knee-jerk.
>
> > I think awake story-savers and Iaidoids
>
> Iaidoka.
>
> > would all agree with you, I'm like dogshit on a bum's stinky shoes.
>
> Certainly.
>
> > Plus I love your mysterious pose, all mysterious-like,
>
> Glad you enjoy it, but it's no pose, love.
>
> > it's incredulous, a perfectly mentally balanced WORKER welding machine
and man.
>
> Snort. Grow up.
>
> > I like to delude myself rejects like you can help
>
> Get a clue; you're an irresponsible, childish, dictatorial bully.
> You cause more damage with your behavior than any old-world
> rich family man.
>
> > or as they say get it on, but alas I'm disappointed again by a
> > smelly crappy liar
>
> The crappy liar here is you. And you're trying standard politicial
> character assassination slogans.
>
> > and insulter.
>
> Ne. I never insult. You're unpleasant.
>
> > Hey great, here's some from me to you, go suck your own ass and never
try to
> > be nice to me again. You are one hard-to-forget fuckface.
>
> Follow your own advice. I'm passing.
>
> > Yes you are yogurt dipshit awake story-saving worker.
>
> I'm not 'story-saving' that was your goal. And I'm not a 'worker'.
> As for awake, absolutely.
>
> > You're breathy and smelly in that Skynyd way too.
>
> Not at all.
>
> > Go read Holub's Interferon and Sagittal Section on your coffee break at
the poison gas center, that's what I read at
> > my inferior college.
>
> Yup. Your college is inferior. And I don't work at any poison gas
> centers.
>
> > Man you reek. You're the genuine article.
>
> Yup. Always gotta have someone to point at, so you don't have to
> look at yourself.
>
> > Stick your thumb up your own ass and ask yourself--am I a liar?
>
> Yes, you are. As for the rest, follow your own advice.
>
> > Wow gorgeous. Well, I hope the audience has seen how another dirty
lying
>
> :) I am not dirty nor lying. You're illiterate, and abuse language.
>
> > G2K-hating
>
> Nope. I don't hate.
>
> > chemical weapons bitch
>
> Right-o. Chemical weapons. Woohoo. Go g2k! Righteous fighter!
> Idiot.
>
> > He really is
> > fabulous, and a fine addition to the Twhid/Bosma club of stupid
worthless
> > dogshit gobblers.
>
> talk about yourself again, max? Sigh.
>
> > How you doing anyway, Putafiesta? Say again how lame and unseductive
Genius
> > 2000 is.
>
> It is.
>
> Rest of pathetic frothing snipped.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
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DISCUSSION

Re:


There's no answer:"Do you speek English!Put Your Enlish in your own
counry.Dick sockers!Anglosaxonians are nice on first lewel,but if push them
they can be nasty.So,again,What do you want with your pathetic
atitude?Respect?Pusi kurac.
----- Original Message -----
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
To: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:23 PM

>
> And by the way, Max, if you want to pick on words flatly,
> I never SAID anything about welding of man and machine.
> I WROTE (1) about welding of man _&_ (2) machine.
>
> Take your childish imbecility elsewhere, twit.
>
> And quit harrassing people for not joining G2K,
> and using language to control and manipulate people.
>
> You're pathetic.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
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DISCUSSION

Re: Any thoughts on this Death?


Learn to be pusy,because you know that you are one.Jeb svaju mat!
----- Original Message -----
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
To: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
<joseph@electrichands.com>
Cc: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>; <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance]
Art[ist] wrote:
>
> > Holy shit! I peek in, while on a trip, what do I see? A incarnation of
> > mortality claiming to be an incarnation of immortality playing "I know
you are,
> > but what am I?" games with Max.
>
> Right.
>
> > Children should be seen and not heard.
>
> Speak about yourself, love.
>
> > ZEN and GOD are just three letter words to fight fear.
>
> What fear my dear?
>
> > It is all majik formulas u c.
>
> That would seem applicable to your use of [lang]uij.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
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DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Mr. Death, the fatuous liar, bullied by Max the language-manipulator


Is better for you to make some work without words.Dear Max!
----- Original Message -----
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
To: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 3:32 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Mr. Death, the fatuous liar, bullied by Max the
language-manipulator

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Big awake genius Death,
>
> Neither big, nor genius. Explicitly have stated otherwise.
> Awake? Yes.
>
> > totin' mad ways to save the human story,
>
> Ne. I am not interested in saving the human story.
> That's your rap.
>
> > blabbers out the following crapulent asinine windspurt:
>
> Not at all. I wrote it out.
>
> > Hey no sweat big dipshit, have it your way.
>
> No, you started it this way.
>
> > You said "I never used that phrase," which you obviously did,
>
> Nope. See (2). You want literal? Be literal, baby.
> Don't be literal as long as it serves you.
>
>
> > making you, yes you, one fat-assed pathetic LIAR.
>
> Not at all.
>
> > Plus you couldn't know less about anything important,
>
> I could and I do. Unlike you.
>
> > your butterfly collection of false selves you battled using Iaido,
>
> Pathetic idiocy.
>
> > struggle against the false self,
>
> Again you speak of things you know nothing about.
>
> > a wonderful magisterial art you were so
> > lucky to do while you learned to hate your mom and brothers.
>
> I don't hate.
>
> > Man, you are indeed the flyest freak on the block. However, you are
> > definitely an imbecilic twit who can't use the word incredulous.
>
> Speaking of yourself.
>
> > Punchy.
>
> You are.
>
> > Pathetic.
>
> You are.
>
> > A busted wooden nickel of scheize.
>
> And so is G2K. :)
>
> > Never tell me what to do you gutless wonder of lying and Iaido bullshit.
>
> The only one gutless here is you, my dear. And you are a liar.
>
> > You wish I would shut up.
>
> Not at all. Do as you please.
>
> > Go tell the big boys I'm bullying you,
>
> I don't need any big boys, dear. You're not scary, nor threatening.
> You're simply a bully. Flying off the handle.
> No better than the people you bash.
>
>
> > "Using language to control and manipulate people." You sound tired.
>
> I am not tired. Nor do I sound tired.
> Project your wishful thinking elsewhere.
>
>
> > Take a breather bitch! Or a powder, either way,
> > fine by me. You're still fired.
>
> Sweetheart, sod off. You neither own me nor emply me, nor do you own
> this list.
>
> > Pick up your shit and get to steppin'. Fucking asshole.
>
> Follow your own advice, love. Play intimidating bully
> elsewhere.
>
> > the pussy art of Iaido. 47 years and still a sucker. Gruesome.
>
> Like totally, man.
>
>
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