manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic
Since 2002
Works in United States of America

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BIO
Belgrade artists Marija Vauda and Nikola Pilipovic have been
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.

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Fw: RHIZOME_RAW: We Have Never Been Modular


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lev Manovich" <manovich@jupiter.ucsd.edu>
To: "'RHIZOME'" <list@rhizome.org>; <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:22 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: We Have Never Been Modular

"Today, in our times of evaluation,
to be a computer expert or a successful manager is a gift of nature, while
to have a beautiful lips or eyes is a fact of culture..."
( Some Politically Incorrect Reflections on Violence in France & Related
Matters .
Violence, Irrational and Rational:Slavoj Zizek,Nov.2005)

> Lev.Manovich wrote:
> We Have Never Been Modular
"A module is a self-contained component of a system, which has a
well-defined interface to the other components; something is modular if it
is constructed so as to facilitate easy assembly, flexible arrangement,
and/or repair of the components."(Wikipedia)
Who are WE?In folowing text *we*are going to se see who Are Modular
considered viewpoint,interest and certain ideology.

>L.M. wrote:
>We are talking about the logic of
> modularity which extends beoynd the Web and digital culture.

There's no such logic.
"Modularity is the property of computer programs that measures the extent to
which they have been composed out of separate parts called modules."
"...Logic, from Classical Greek (logos), originally meaning the word,
or what is spoken, (but coming to mean thought or reason) is most often said
to be the study of arguments..."
So,we could talk about modularity in cognitive sciences,same as about
Modularity in Computer Science.But there're nothing like"logic of
modularity"(sources :Wikipedia,Google,Lexicon of foreign words and
expressions,M.Vujaklija,Great Encyclopedia,Prosveta),actualy there's no need
for "the study of arguments"(logic)because those facts doesn't need any
argument.
"When a neuroscientist uses the word "module", s/he is usually trying to
underscore the conclusion that brains are structured, with cells, columns,
layers and/or regions that divide up the labor of information processing in
a variety of ways...Following the MIT linguist Noam Chomsky (Chomsky, 1957;
1965; 1988), Fodor("Modularity of Mind"Jerry Fodor's monograph,1983. ),
argues that human language fits this definition of a module...Fodor defines
modules as cognitive systems (especially perceptual systems)...Fodor's
version of modularity unifies the three claims that language is innate,
localized, and domain-specific..."( MODULARITY, DOMAIN SPECIFICITY AND THE
DEVELOPMENT OF LANGUAGE,Elizabeth Bates,Center for Research in Language
University of California, San Diego)
Different usage of word modularity in different area refer on
description,function and processes,not on logic.

> Modularity has been the key principle of modern mass production. Mass
> production is possible because of the standarisation of parts and how they
> fit with each other - i.e. modularity.

Modularity is feature.Invention of steam mashine and work in series
essentially determinate
and make possible
mass production.Standardization is ultimatum for huge production,this one's
consequence
of rising capitalism.Pyramids are assembled of "module",result's "pyramid
modularity",but
there's only few pyramids on the world.Reason's obvious: shortage of death
Pharaoh
and zero market price&demand(see G.Bataille:La part mauditte-production in
sacral society).

> Today we are still leaving in an era of mass production and mass
modularity,
> and globalisation and outsourcing only strengthen this logic. One commonly
> evoked characteristic of globalisation is greater connnectivity

DISCUSSION

Re: PIG IN THE PENAL COLONY


First mankind note was cut in skin-scarification(mostly owe;woman and
cattle).Your skin was your endorser&walking check. Deposit's your
life.(______________________________________________________________________
_______________________)
Numbers on conc.lager's camp
inmate(_____________________________________________________________________
__)
hand/skin was sign that he belong to somebody,he's object- property,obscure
ideology possess(____________________________)
this body and processes of "Discipline and Punish"(Foucault)could flow
fluently.But that's not the end of cruel *panopticism*,it's just
beginning.In time of antagonism(XXIcentury)between
poor-rich,Islam-Christianity,State
terrorism(desecrate,global,multicorporational...)
against religious,fanatic,suicidal terrorism of small(?) group invoke
drastic move.We couldn't be sure how,but it's for sure that processes of
mark,tracking,identification are going to have something with our
body.Implant,sample of tissue(DNK)will be new passports&computers and
programming powerful means in processes of instant identification
of(suspect)or danger persons,finally we've seen all those stuff in
Schwarzeneneger's&Stalone's movies.&we all know that computer
games,nanotechnology,biotechnology...etc.in "art"and/or programming could be
and they are dangerous resources in hands on the other side of
ethic/aesthetic(see Virillio____)(_____...)In those circumstance we feel
that "NM art","programming art",software art"contain immanent pathogenic
essence,they're dangerous because we couldn't be sure who fool around with
this weapon.It's absurdity to distribute huge quantity of weapon&expect to
be use in merciful
act.(_______________________________________________________________________
________)
Eduardo Katz's fluorescent rabbit Alba very soon could be fluorescent man
under permanent control&supervision.Whole poor&different race&religion
population could be fluorescent,scarificated with new technology and put in
slave position in some new order marking of power.Different between Einstein
and Tesla is ethical nature.Tesla was one's asked about nuclear fission.He
said":I was there."Obvious that his ethic demand instant distant from
ambivalence place,but not Einstein's amorality.He felt direct responsibility
for Hiroshima&Nagasaki,and his pathetic letters against atomic bomb show all
hypocrisy of one a-moral ambitious man.So,somebody from list suggest
changing name for art.Idea which deserve special attention.From now art
shouldn't be named as art.That must be something else,like"technae"for
example(same time craft&art in ancient Greece)."Call me however you like,but
don't beat me..."Slightly" different between painting and programming
considered their potential efficiency is that painting's could be in best
case sublime reflection of some idea,precognition,intention or
propaganda.Programming could be praxis connected with unforeseeable
consequences which could be extreme far from any aesthetic."NM art"should be
discuss separate from painting,drawing&other *classic*art disciplines.We
don't believe in human goodness&essential harmless.That's the reason we
can't see good reason to mix classic art and programming art.We still use
some of *classic*art(aesthetic) principle,which mean we still "believe"
which is basically religious category&have very little with raw process of
outside.
Mankind goodness is rare exception,evil's almost rule.
We believe it's irresponsibility to pretend that we belief in ethic use of
programming in future,including programming in"art"purpose.
New technology looking for whole spectra of new/different strategic
study&education including persistence insist on strategic role of ethic.It
require whole new infrastructure(ideology?).
Is there any of you so naive to believe is that possible?
MANIK
PS:There's few jolly sites below!
http://www.needled.com/2005/07/wim_delvoyes_art_farm_of_tatto.php
http://news.agendainc.com/mt-agenda/content/archives/2005/08/chinese_pig_get
.html
http://www.geocities.com/robleh.geo/penal_colony.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Dymond" <dymond@idirect.ca>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:37 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 10 questions/more art

> I think it's OK to tatoo animals with poems.
> Especially sheep who have been shaved so that i can wear a nice wool
sweater in the winter, which is always warmer than cotton or silk.
> and the sheep might pick up some literary skills if the poems are good
ones.
> But if they are bad poems written by spinsters in Schenecdaty then that is
an awful thing to do to the sheep. They should be exposed to great poetry ,
esp. if they are getting it tatooed permanently onto their bodies.
> How emabarrassing it would be for sheep to have to live a lives as the
bearers of bad poetry (burned into/onto their skin!).
> my God that is really cruel.
> We will need to have a contest, or a commission to determine what poems
can be burned onto a sheeps hide.
> Maybe a government department that can adjudicate the quality of sheep
tatoo poetry.
> And we could vote for a standard that kept the sheep from being embarrased
by the poetry they will be forced to bear.
> I think we need a web aite and forum to discuss this in detail before
making any rash decisions..,
> but what do I know.
> Eric
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DISCUSSION

Re: RHIZOME_RAW:NEW/OLD RIDERS ON THE IRON SADDLE


Right!
NATO forces present an ultimatum in front of MANIK'S face-they want to pass
through MANIK'S
yard without paying.
Charmingly!
Without pay,my friend,without pay.
MANIK*$*
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Myers" <rob@robmyers.org>
To: "Rhizome Raw list" <list@rhizome.org>
Cc: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: vague

> On 27 Oct 2005, at 16:00, manik wrote:
>
> > $MANIK
>
> $ export MANIK="Pay us to be your enemy"
> $ echo $MANIK
> Pay us to be your enemy
> $ $MANIK
> -bash: Pay: command not found
>
> - Rob.
>

DISCUSSION

$MAN


$MANIK
PAY US TO BE Y=
OUR ENEMY
MANIK,OCTOBER 20=
05

DISCUSSION

Re: vague


$MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pall Thayer" <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca>
To: "Jim Andrews" <jim@vispo.com>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: vague

> peace, love and understanding
>
>
> On 27.10.2005, at 03:00, Jim Andrews wrote:
>
> > everybody wants it no one knows what it is.
> >
> > ja
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