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Belgrade artists Marija Vauda and Nikola Pilipovic have been
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.
Re: about hypertext
Hypertext considered only surface,there's no sense at all?I blow that
already.How about LUCKY STRIKE?I didn't mint on brands.Nicotine is what I
mean.Poison.You know,specific substance which make you addicted.It's not a
brand.I deeply salute all that distinguished names in your short essay about
misunderstanding.Tongue deeply in bad teeth.Tongue over ill body.
Sincerely
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Thomas Barr" <barr@mail.rochester.edu>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: about hypertext
>
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, manik wrote:
>
> > I'm person who quit smoking.Is there anythithing for me in your library?
> > MANIK
>
>
> Of course, it depends on the brand.
>
> If you smoked Parliments, then go for Meadows's book.
>
> Camels, you'll prefer Bolter and Grusin.
>
> Marlboro: Read 'em all, you hoss.
>
> Kool: You won't like any of them.
>
> Winston -- see advice for Kool.
>
> GPCs, you'll like Manovich's book. But it's expensive.
>
> Anyone smoking non-Anglo brands: there's nothing on the hypertext market
> that will interest you, yet. Wait a few years.
>
> Tognue deeply in cheek,
>
> Brandon
> http://bannerart.org/
> http://texturl.net/
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brandon Thomas Barr" <barr@mail.rochester.edu>
> > To: "Rachel Greene" <rachel@rhizome.org>
> > Cc: "rhizome list" <list@rhizome.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: about hypertext
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Rachel Greene wrote:
> > >
> > > > does anyone have good hypertext resouces to suggest? think of
someone
> > whose
> > > > motto is 'I hate hypertext' -- what would you send them to change
their
> > > > mind, or to get them to appreciate this form. I am more interested
right
> > now
> > > > in hypertext analysis than hypertext work... thanks, rachel
> > >
> > > Well, IMHO, it depends on who that person is. Since so much hypertext
> > > theory develops out of other disciplines, seeing the web within the
> > > metaphors of older media, you have to ask yourself what sort of person
> > > that "someone whose motto is 'I hate hypertext'" is--what metaphors
they
> > > will see as natural.
> > >
> > > If that person revels in post-sturucturalist theory and always has a
copy
> > > of Barthes or Derrida under their folded arm, George Landow's
Hypertext
> > > 2.0 is a good one to send them.
> > >
> > > If the person is into gaming and spends time bouncing from MUD to MOO,
> > > Espen Arseth's Cybertext:Oerspectives on Ergodic Literature should be
the
> > > pick.
> > >
> > > If they are a graphic designer or are visually literate, send them
Mark S
> > > Meadows's book Pause & Effect: The Art of Interactive Narrative.
> > >
> > > If they are a film studies guru, and their black turtleneck is
imblazoned
> > > with the phrase "Vertov this!", then Lev Manovich's The Language of
New
> > > Media would be right up their alley.
> > >
> > > If they like tossing McLuhanisms like "the medium is the message!"
into
> > > casual conversation, then they'll find themselves taken by Jay David
> > > Bolter and Richard Grusin's Remediation: Understanding New Media.
> > >
> > > If they like comics, then Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics will
get
> > > them thinking in ways that suggest new forms and McCloud's Reinventing
> > > Comics particularly points to digital media.
> > >
> > > If they like experimental poetry and are always trying to start up a
new
> > > lit mag, then Loss Pequeno Glazier's Digital Poetics will be perfect.
> > >
> > > And if they are a computer scientist, Noah Wardrip-Fruin and Nick
> > > Montfort's The New Media Reader collects a historically based series
of
> > > essays that discuss the computer as an artistic medium.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Brandon Barr
> > > http://texturl.net
> > > http://bannerart.org
> > >
> > > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> > > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> > > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > > +
> > > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > > Membership Agreement available online at
http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > +
> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> >
>
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>
>
already.How about LUCKY STRIKE?I didn't mint on brands.Nicotine is what I
mean.Poison.You know,specific substance which make you addicted.It's not a
brand.I deeply salute all that distinguished names in your short essay about
misunderstanding.Tongue deeply in bad teeth.Tongue over ill body.
Sincerely
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Thomas Barr" <barr@mail.rochester.edu>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: about hypertext
>
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, manik wrote:
>
> > I'm person who quit smoking.Is there anythithing for me in your library?
> > MANIK
>
>
> Of course, it depends on the brand.
>
> If you smoked Parliments, then go for Meadows's book.
>
> Camels, you'll prefer Bolter and Grusin.
>
> Marlboro: Read 'em all, you hoss.
>
> Kool: You won't like any of them.
>
> Winston -- see advice for Kool.
>
> GPCs, you'll like Manovich's book. But it's expensive.
>
> Anyone smoking non-Anglo brands: there's nothing on the hypertext market
> that will interest you, yet. Wait a few years.
>
> Tognue deeply in cheek,
>
> Brandon
> http://bannerart.org/
> http://texturl.net/
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brandon Thomas Barr" <barr@mail.rochester.edu>
> > To: "Rachel Greene" <rachel@rhizome.org>
> > Cc: "rhizome list" <list@rhizome.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: about hypertext
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Rachel Greene wrote:
> > >
> > > > does anyone have good hypertext resouces to suggest? think of
someone
> > whose
> > > > motto is 'I hate hypertext' -- what would you send them to change
their
> > > > mind, or to get them to appreciate this form. I am more interested
right
> > now
> > > > in hypertext analysis than hypertext work... thanks, rachel
> > >
> > > Well, IMHO, it depends on who that person is. Since so much hypertext
> > > theory develops out of other disciplines, seeing the web within the
> > > metaphors of older media, you have to ask yourself what sort of person
> > > that "someone whose motto is 'I hate hypertext'" is--what metaphors
they
> > > will see as natural.
> > >
> > > If that person revels in post-sturucturalist theory and always has a
copy
> > > of Barthes or Derrida under their folded arm, George Landow's
Hypertext
> > > 2.0 is a good one to send them.
> > >
> > > If the person is into gaming and spends time bouncing from MUD to MOO,
> > > Espen Arseth's Cybertext:Oerspectives on Ergodic Literature should be
the
> > > pick.
> > >
> > > If they are a graphic designer or are visually literate, send them
Mark S
> > > Meadows's book Pause & Effect: The Art of Interactive Narrative.
> > >
> > > If they are a film studies guru, and their black turtleneck is
imblazoned
> > > with the phrase "Vertov this!", then Lev Manovich's The Language of
New
> > > Media would be right up their alley.
> > >
> > > If they like tossing McLuhanisms like "the medium is the message!"
into
> > > casual conversation, then they'll find themselves taken by Jay David
> > > Bolter and Richard Grusin's Remediation: Understanding New Media.
> > >
> > > If they like comics, then Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics will
get
> > > them thinking in ways that suggest new forms and McCloud's Reinventing
> > > Comics particularly points to digital media.
> > >
> > > If they like experimental poetry and are always trying to start up a
new
> > > lit mag, then Loss Pequeno Glazier's Digital Poetics will be perfect.
> > >
> > > And if they are a computer scientist, Noah Wardrip-Fruin and Nick
> > > Montfort's The New Media Reader collects a historically based series
of
> > > essays that discuss the computer as an artistic medium.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Brandon Barr
> > > http://texturl.net
> > > http://bannerart.org
> > >
> > > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> > > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> > > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > > +
> > > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > > Membership Agreement available online at
http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > +
> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> >
>
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>
>
Re: about hypertext
I'm person who quit smoking.Is there anythithing for me in your library?
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Thomas Barr" <barr@mail.rochester.edu>
To: "Rachel Greene" <rachel@rhizome.org>
Cc: "rhizome list" <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: about hypertext
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Rachel Greene wrote:
>
> > does anyone have good hypertext resouces to suggest? think of someone
whose
> > motto is 'I hate hypertext' -- what would you send them to change their
> > mind, or to get them to appreciate this form. I am more interested right
now
> > in hypertext analysis than hypertext work... thanks, rachel
>
> Well, IMHO, it depends on who that person is. Since so much hypertext
> theory develops out of other disciplines, seeing the web within the
> metaphors of older media, you have to ask yourself what sort of person
> that "someone whose motto is 'I hate hypertext'" is--what metaphors they
> will see as natural.
>
> If that person revels in post-sturucturalist theory and always has a copy
> of Barthes or Derrida under their folded arm, George Landow's Hypertext
> 2.0 is a good one to send them.
>
> If the person is into gaming and spends time bouncing from MUD to MOO,
> Espen Arseth's Cybertext:Oerspectives on Ergodic Literature should be the
> pick.
>
> If they are a graphic designer or are visually literate, send them Mark S
> Meadows's book Pause & Effect: The Art of Interactive Narrative.
>
> If they are a film studies guru, and their black turtleneck is imblazoned
> with the phrase "Vertov this!", then Lev Manovich's The Language of New
> Media would be right up their alley.
>
> If they like tossing McLuhanisms like "the medium is the message!" into
> casual conversation, then they'll find themselves taken by Jay David
> Bolter and Richard Grusin's Remediation: Understanding New Media.
>
> If they like comics, then Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics will get
> them thinking in ways that suggest new forms and McCloud's Reinventing
> Comics particularly points to digital media.
>
> If they like experimental poetry and are always trying to start up a new
> lit mag, then Loss Pequeno Glazier's Digital Poetics will be perfect.
>
> And if they are a computer scientist, Noah Wardrip-Fruin and Nick
> Montfort's The New Media Reader collects a historically based series of
> essays that discuss the computer as an artistic medium.
>
> Best,
> Brandon Barr
> http://texturl.net
> http://bannerart.org
>
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>
>
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Thomas Barr" <barr@mail.rochester.edu>
To: "Rachel Greene" <rachel@rhizome.org>
Cc: "rhizome list" <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: about hypertext
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Rachel Greene wrote:
>
> > does anyone have good hypertext resouces to suggest? think of someone
whose
> > motto is 'I hate hypertext' -- what would you send them to change their
> > mind, or to get them to appreciate this form. I am more interested right
now
> > in hypertext analysis than hypertext work... thanks, rachel
>
> Well, IMHO, it depends on who that person is. Since so much hypertext
> theory develops out of other disciplines, seeing the web within the
> metaphors of older media, you have to ask yourself what sort of person
> that "someone whose motto is 'I hate hypertext'" is--what metaphors they
> will see as natural.
>
> If that person revels in post-sturucturalist theory and always has a copy
> of Barthes or Derrida under their folded arm, George Landow's Hypertext
> 2.0 is a good one to send them.
>
> If the person is into gaming and spends time bouncing from MUD to MOO,
> Espen Arseth's Cybertext:Oerspectives on Ergodic Literature should be the
> pick.
>
> If they are a graphic designer or are visually literate, send them Mark S
> Meadows's book Pause & Effect: The Art of Interactive Narrative.
>
> If they are a film studies guru, and their black turtleneck is imblazoned
> with the phrase "Vertov this!", then Lev Manovich's The Language of New
> Media would be right up their alley.
>
> If they like tossing McLuhanisms like "the medium is the message!" into
> casual conversation, then they'll find themselves taken by Jay David
> Bolter and Richard Grusin's Remediation: Understanding New Media.
>
> If they like comics, then Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics will get
> them thinking in ways that suggest new forms and McCloud's Reinventing
> Comics particularly points to digital media.
>
> If they like experimental poetry and are always trying to start up a new
> lit mag, then Loss Pequeno Glazier's Digital Poetics will be perfect.
>
> And if they are a computer scientist, Noah Wardrip-Fruin and Nick
> Montfort's The New Media Reader collects a historically based series of
> essays that discuss the computer as an artistic medium.
>
> Best,
> Brandon Barr
> http://texturl.net
> http://bannerart.org
>
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>
>
Re: i think too much
----- Original Message -----
From: David Goldschmidt
To: list@rhizome.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:27 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: i think too much
the world changes as i change
&
i change as the world changes
From: David Goldschmidt
To: list@rhizome.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:27 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: i think too much
the world changes as i change
&
i change as the world changes
Fw: RHIZOME_RAW: 21-th century medicine for beginners
----- Original Message -----
From: manik
To: list@rhizome.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:09 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: 21-th century medicine for beginners
In south Iraq in last ten years is about 300% more cancers,because American=
forces used uranium which stay in sand,ear,food."There's huge number of ch=
ildren born with different kind of deformation;without mouth,with nose in p=
lace where usually stays eye,with one eye..etc.Those hospitals are most h=
orrible places you can see.Because of sanction Iraq can't import medicine,t=
hat's why they can't cure illness in better circumstances very easy to be =
cured."I've seen children died of one specific kind of leukemia which can b=
e cure in about 90% cases.In their case chance are less than 3%.Doctor give=
injection with water to this children to give some hope to parents.One doc=
tor says:"Only difference between me and patient are that I have white dres=
s,and I know how to help him.Patient hawed no white dress and don't know th=
at I can't help him."
(Jeremy Scahill,American,journalist in independent electronic media,his rep=
ort from Baghdad,
published in NIN,weekly magazine from Belgrade 30.January 2003)
From: manik
To: list@rhizome.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:09 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: 21-th century medicine for beginners
In south Iraq in last ten years is about 300% more cancers,because American=
forces used uranium which stay in sand,ear,food."There's huge number of ch=
ildren born with different kind of deformation;without mouth,with nose in p=
lace where usually stays eye,with one eye..etc.Those hospitals are most h=
orrible places you can see.Because of sanction Iraq can't import medicine,t=
hat's why they can't cure illness in better circumstances very easy to be =
cured."I've seen children died of one specific kind of leukemia which can b=
e cure in about 90% cases.In their case chance are less than 3%.Doctor give=
injection with water to this children to give some hope to parents.One doc=
tor says:"Only difference between me and patient are that I have white dres=
s,and I know how to help him.Patient hawed no white dress and don't know th=
at I can't help him."
(Jeremy Scahill,American,journalist in independent electronic media,his rep=
ort from Baghdad,
published in NIN,weekly magazine from Belgrade 30.January 2003)
andless list for beginners
In intensive global diplomacy, as many as 10 Eastern European nations who w=
ere recently invited to join NATO or aspire to join will present a letter o=
f support here tomorrow for the American campaign to disarm Iraq, diplomats=
said. Their letter follows a similar one from eight European countries las=
t week. Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia
&
Slovenia are expected to sign,
as well as three NATO aspirants -
Albania,
Croatia
&
Macedonia Their support is a sign of gratitude for Washin=
gton's efforts to help them enter NATO.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02 /05/international/middleeast/0 5IRAQ.html?pa=
gewanted=2&th
ere recently invited to join NATO or aspire to join will present a letter o=
f support here tomorrow for the American campaign to disarm Iraq, diplomats=
said. Their letter follows a similar one from eight European countries las=
t week. Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia
&
Slovenia are expected to sign,
as well as three NATO aspirants -
Albania,
Croatia
&
Macedonia Their support is a sign of gratitude for Washin=
gton's efforts to help them enter NATO.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02 /05/international/middleeast/0 5IRAQ.html?pa=
gewanted=2&th