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BIO
Belgrade artists Marija Vauda and Nikola Pilipovic have been
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.
periphery/superposition
The uninhabitable zone is a socially unacceptable but densely populated spa=
ce. Due to these qualifications it is essential in order to define, descri=
be and expand the area of the Subject. The process is reversible because no=
matter how excluded the interfering infrastructure of the Subject is from=
the contract, it is accepted as a derivative so the periphery and the reje=
cted, the excluded (Verwrenfung) become one surface on the Body of society.=
To live in Verwerfung is to live in a de-territorialized discontinuity, s=
chizophrenically and machine like, advocating plurality as an act of creati=
vity and thus a language of critique. We can not avoid hegemony/ the mainst=
ream, we can only submit to it speeding up the end, accepting and going int=
o transformations as synthetic requirements of the madness of illogical pra=
ctice. In the gray, ghettoized, utopian non-democratic zones language buzze=
s and is wedged. The image/personality/subject/identity is autistic, reject=
ed, isolated, unnecessary and thus it is unavoidably satisfied, optimistic =
because it steals language (the language of skills, the language of foreign=
ers, the language of psychology, the language of a nation, the language of =
economy, the language of new technologies, forgotten languages, the languag=
es of all possible alienation) it intensifies its satisfaction and in a Rie=
mann's surface departs and extinguishes itself like exhaustion and a decis=
ion a machine would make.
MANIK
ce. Due to these qualifications it is essential in order to define, descri=
be and expand the area of the Subject. The process is reversible because no=
matter how excluded the interfering infrastructure of the Subject is from=
the contract, it is accepted as a derivative so the periphery and the reje=
cted, the excluded (Verwrenfung) become one surface on the Body of society.=
To live in Verwerfung is to live in a de-territorialized discontinuity, s=
chizophrenically and machine like, advocating plurality as an act of creati=
vity and thus a language of critique. We can not avoid hegemony/ the mainst=
ream, we can only submit to it speeding up the end, accepting and going int=
o transformations as synthetic requirements of the madness of illogical pra=
ctice. In the gray, ghettoized, utopian non-democratic zones language buzze=
s and is wedged. The image/personality/subject/identity is autistic, reject=
ed, isolated, unnecessary and thus it is unavoidably satisfied, optimistic =
because it steals language (the language of skills, the language of foreign=
ers, the language of psychology, the language of a nation, the language of =
economy, the language of new technologies, forgotten languages, the languag=
es of all possible alienation) it intensifies its satisfaction and in a Rie=
mann's surface departs and extinguishes itself like exhaustion and a decis=
ion a machine would make.
MANIK
Re: wordgames for beginners II
Uhhhhh,poetry must make new,human face to people who are deeply in
evel?Pedro?But,what are you think about Derida...etc.Isn't that most urgent
qvestion?War as a important issue desapired because,by the way,some Dyske
have a cop of tea with...Cage!(par lui meme).So,Vijay,"rhizome"is one of
lightest fluxes.Chat on "rhizome"is vesting time.Have you made some money on
"rhizome"?What do you expect?That somebody see and feel your respectable
personality...They make joke on me,Marc(ask me why am I angre on Atty).Isn't
that so obviesly.His qvestion explaind all.People like Marc...etc.see only
surface,my english.Unfortunetly thay dont see meening of their own
language.Butheway PAROLE is what you wright,LANGUAGE is something you
talk.There's no hard conection between them.Actualy I like your
way,Vijay,but what's that meen in deconstruction world of
"rhizome".Actualy,I like that you are reflex of East mind.I dont qvit from
"rhizome"because there's allways stupid persons,worth to bee seen as a
simtom(Wally Keller,Atty,...and so many other).In my counry,Serbia,I have no
position.My last position is,paradoxaly,on "rhizome".Dont like anybody,dont
respect....dont care for .....I'm in superposition.I dont care for "rhizom"!
All best
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> Hehe...no, I just meant that I didn't know how to reconcile that statement
with how I felt about art/etc. I think Joao put it well, though, that poetry
restores the human face to the world after the brutality of war, to "pick up
the pieces" in a way.
>
> I think that's what Christa Wolf achieved in _Cassandra_, anyway.
>
> Maybe I didn't understand your post...maybe you were making a joke? An
insult? In which case I didn't mean to offend you in the first place...
>
>
> -Vijay
>
>
>
> > "manik" <manik@ptt.yu> "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>,
<list@rhizome.org> Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners IIDate: Thu, 20
Feb 2003 09:30:54 +0100
> >Reply-To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
> >
> >Did anyone ask you?
> >MANIK
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
> >To: <list@rhizome.org>; <manik@ptt.yu>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:48 AM
> >Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> >
> >
> >> Christa Wolf, I think it was, once said "How can there be poetry after
> >Auschwitz?"
> >>
> >> I still can't respond to that question.
> >>
> >> Vijay
> >>
> >> > "manik" <manik@ptt.yu> "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>,
> ><list@rhizome.org> Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners IIDate: Tue,
18
> >Feb 2003 17:30:01 +0100
> >> >Reply-To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
> >> >
> >> >Take opportunity to made art,even aesthetic,in war time and use that
> >> >production for self promotion is awful.But I'm artist.If I were
> >> >capitalist,my work against war could bee named as capitalistic,even
> >> >turbocapitalistic.So,Vijay,make love not art,or...something like
> >that.Your
> >> >carefully listener
> >> >MANIK
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
> >> >To: <list@rhizome.org>
> >> >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:46 PM
> >> >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> part II:
> >> >>
> >> >> didn't mean that the anti/art/war posts were superficial
> >> >>
> >> >> I just meant that propaganda and war and leadership
> >> >>
> >> >> are artistic
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> even aesthetic
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The Japanese gave their warplanes names like "swooping crane"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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evel?Pedro?But,what are you think about Derida...etc.Isn't that most urgent
qvestion?War as a important issue desapired because,by the way,some Dyske
have a cop of tea with...Cage!(par lui meme).So,Vijay,"rhizome"is one of
lightest fluxes.Chat on "rhizome"is vesting time.Have you made some money on
"rhizome"?What do you expect?That somebody see and feel your respectable
personality...They make joke on me,Marc(ask me why am I angre on Atty).Isn't
that so obviesly.His qvestion explaind all.People like Marc...etc.see only
surface,my english.Unfortunetly thay dont see meening of their own
language.Butheway PAROLE is what you wright,LANGUAGE is something you
talk.There's no hard conection between them.Actualy I like your
way,Vijay,but what's that meen in deconstruction world of
"rhizome".Actualy,I like that you are reflex of East mind.I dont qvit from
"rhizome"because there's allways stupid persons,worth to bee seen as a
simtom(Wally Keller,Atty,...and so many other).In my counry,Serbia,I have no
position.My last position is,paradoxaly,on "rhizome".Dont like anybody,dont
respect....dont care for .....I'm in superposition.I dont care for "rhizom"!
All best
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> Hehe...no, I just meant that I didn't know how to reconcile that statement
with how I felt about art/etc. I think Joao put it well, though, that poetry
restores the human face to the world after the brutality of war, to "pick up
the pieces" in a way.
>
> I think that's what Christa Wolf achieved in _Cassandra_, anyway.
>
> Maybe I didn't understand your post...maybe you were making a joke? An
insult? In which case I didn't mean to offend you in the first place...
>
>
> -Vijay
>
>
>
> > "manik" <manik@ptt.yu> "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>,
<list@rhizome.org> Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners IIDate: Thu, 20
Feb 2003 09:30:54 +0100
> >Reply-To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
> >
> >Did anyone ask you?
> >MANIK
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
> >To: <list@rhizome.org>; <manik@ptt.yu>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:48 AM
> >Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> >
> >
> >> Christa Wolf, I think it was, once said "How can there be poetry after
> >Auschwitz?"
> >>
> >> I still can't respond to that question.
> >>
> >> Vijay
> >>
> >> > "manik" <manik@ptt.yu> "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>,
> ><list@rhizome.org> Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners IIDate: Tue,
18
> >Feb 2003 17:30:01 +0100
> >> >Reply-To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
> >> >
> >> >Take opportunity to made art,even aesthetic,in war time and use that
> >> >production for self promotion is awful.But I'm artist.If I were
> >> >capitalist,my work against war could bee named as capitalistic,even
> >> >turbocapitalistic.So,Vijay,make love not art,or...something like
> >that.Your
> >> >carefully listener
> >> >MANIK
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
> >> >To: <list@rhizome.org>
> >> >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:46 PM
> >> >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> part II:
> >> >>
> >> >> didn't mean that the anti/art/war posts were superficial
> >> >>
> >> >> I just meant that propaganda and war and leadership
> >> >>
> >> >> are artistic
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> even aesthetic
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The Japanese gave their warplanes names like "swooping crane"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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Re: wordgames for beginners II
Did anyone ask you?
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>; <manik@ptt.yu>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> Christa Wolf, I think it was, once said "How can there be poetry after
Auschwitz?"
>
> I still can't respond to that question.
>
> Vijay
>
> > "manik" <manik@ptt.yu> "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>,
<list@rhizome.org> Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners IIDate: Tue, 18
Feb 2003 17:30:01 +0100
> >Reply-To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
> >
> >Take opportunity to made art,even aesthetic,in war time and use that
> >production for self promotion is awful.But I'm artist.If I were
> >capitalist,my work against war could bee named as capitalistic,even
> >turbocapitalistic.So,Vijay,make love not art,or...something like
that.Your
> >carefully listener
> >MANIK
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
> >To: <list@rhizome.org>
> >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:46 PM
> >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> >
> >
> >> part II:
> >>
> >> didn't mean that the anti/art/war posts were superficial
> >>
> >> I just meant that propaganda and war and leadership
> >>
> >> are artistic
> >>
> >>
> >> even aesthetic
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Japanese gave their warplanes names like "swooping crane"
> >>
> >>
> >>
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MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>; <manik@ptt.yu>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> Christa Wolf, I think it was, once said "How can there be poetry after
Auschwitz?"
>
> I still can't respond to that question.
>
> Vijay
>
> > "manik" <manik@ptt.yu> "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>,
<list@rhizome.org> Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners IIDate: Tue, 18
Feb 2003 17:30:01 +0100
> >Reply-To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
> >
> >Take opportunity to made art,even aesthetic,in war time and use that
> >production for self promotion is awful.But I'm artist.If I were
> >capitalist,my work against war could bee named as capitalistic,even
> >turbocapitalistic.So,Vijay,make love not art,or...something like
that.Your
> >carefully listener
> >MANIK
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
> >To: <list@rhizome.org>
> >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:46 PM
> >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> >
> >
> >> part II:
> >>
> >> didn't mean that the anti/art/war posts were superficial
> >>
> >> I just meant that propaganda and war and leadership
> >>
> >> are artistic
> >>
> >>
> >> even aesthetic
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Japanese gave their warplanes names like "swooping crane"
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: wordgames for beginners
To bee honest I don't understand.I know for anti tetanus
vaccine,antibiotic,but anti war art seems to me like two abstraction which
doesn't produce any sense.Late,that became funny(see Ivan's trip).So,there's
nothing wrong with entertainment and humor.
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners
> ...like... manik ... mannequin
>
> sap meaning from words
>
> just like war propaganda
>
>
>
>
> (sometimes)
> >Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:21:02 +0000
> > Re: RHIZOME_RAW: aNTI WAR Artist ART? for beginners Ivan Pope
<ivan@ivanpope.com> "marc.garrett" <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>,
<list@rhizome.org>Reply-To: Ivan Pope <ivan@ivanpope.com>
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> >15, 2003 6:18 PM
> >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: artist anti war for beginners
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> >ART aNTI WAR Artist ART
for
> >an ANTI-ART war
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> ><< msg2.html >>
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vaccine,antibiotic,but anti war art seems to me like two abstraction which
doesn't produce any sense.Late,that became funny(see Ivan's trip).So,there's
nothing wrong with entertainment and humor.
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners
> ...like... manik ... mannequin
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> sap meaning from words
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> just like war propaganda
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> >Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:21:02 +0000
> > Re: RHIZOME_RAW: aNTI WAR Artist ART? for beginners Ivan Pope
<ivan@ivanpope.com> "marc.garrett" <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>,
<list@rhizome.org>Reply-To: Ivan Pope <ivan@ivanpope.com>
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> >
> >
> >15, 2003 6:18 PM
> >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: artist anti war for beginners
> >
> >ART aNTI WAR Artist ART
for
> >an ANTI-ART war
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