manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic
Since 2002
Works in United States of America

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BIO
Belgrade artists Marija Vauda and Nikola Pilipovic have been
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.

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DISCUSSION

Re: Any thoughts on this Death?


You are Max without Genius!
----- Original Message -----
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
To: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > This reminds me of why you are worthless:
>
> I am not worthless, however you are. And you will remain so,
> until you change your attitude. And your behavior will continue
> to be the source for wars.
>
> As for your paragraph about other people,
> it's not relevant to me. Nobody is *like* other people.
>
> And please avoid sticking your hands in things you know
> nothing about, such as Iaido, and Zen.
>
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
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DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Death is a Damned Dirty Liar


Shame for slowenian culture.What do you thinkk you are?In front of few
hundred people you expres worst:egocentrism without reason,sophfism
interesting only for adolescents,energy without knowlege...Pusi kurac!
----- Original Message -----
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
To: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Death is a Damned Dirty Liar

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Go watch it you scum!!!
>
> No, thank you.
>
> > You're the pathetic abstruse bully.
>
> I am hardly a bully, nor abstruse.
>
> > Somehow I've gotten on your bad side and you want to bust me all up.
>
> You're paranoid, Max. You haven't gotten on any of my sides.
> Nor do I care to 'bust you up'. People bust themselves up
> all on their own without my assistance. You're no exception.
>
> > No, it's you man, stagnant and weak as heavy water,
>
> Nope. It's you, and it's clearly visible.
>
> > what in your underground bunker of Iaido.
>
> Uhm, sorry, I have no 'underground bunkers' nor do I aspire to any.
> As for iaido--this is not a matter you're familiar with.
>
> > But yeah being rich you must have
>
> Yawn; get it over yourselves with my being rich.
>
> > Get your hands off me you dirty ape.
>
> I've never touched you, nor have I cared to, nor am I an ape.
>
> > Yeah, you were trying to help me become enlightened.
>
> Not at all. That is an absurdity. One doesn't 'become' enlightened.
> Nor can anyone help another become so. I was doing something else.
> The fact that enlightenment appeared concurrently in the conversation,
> doesn't mean I had any such intentions.
>
> Really, you do flatter yourself unjustifiably.
>
>
> > Man you're a tough nut to crack. Where have you been? You could've
reached
> > me when I was salvageable.
>
> Salvage yourself.
>
> > > > You also said it was important to have a "welding of man and
machine,"
> > >
> > > No, I didn't.
> >
> > Yes you did you dirty liar.
>
> No, I didn't Max.
>
> > Oh, you dirty little coward, you did use that term. Maybe I saved it
and
> > can dig it up.
>
> No, I didn't. I mentioned symbiosis of man and technology.
> Which is imminent and necessary, if humans want to survive.
>
> > Yeah just shut up forever please you secretive Thetan.
>
> No, max. I'll speak when I please. I hope that's *ok*
> with you, chuckle.
>
> > Lying again, you said "This can only come from the US because Europe is
> > weak."
>
> No, I didn't. I said that it can only come from the US, yes.
> I said that Europe is weak, yes. I did not make a causal
> relation between the two.
>
> > You didn't say "favorably capable," that is a moldy-cheese lie.
>
> That's right. I said uniquely situated. Which means the same,
> in this context.
>
> > You lie left and right man. A dirty shitty liar.
>
> Sorry, I don't.
>
> > The point is the lies you are telling, not whether Europe is weak.
>
> I am not telling any lies, Max. All you're doing is a pathetic attempt
> at assassination of character--a petty idiotic technique employed
> by a bully.
>
> > Anyone here from Europe? You all think Europe is weak and US strong?
>
> It doesn't matter what they think, nor can most of them think.
> Europe is weak because of the World Wars. The damage is incredulous,
> and almost impossible to repair. Almost.
>
> > Also some more info on who this Death liar is,
>
> I am not a liar.
>
> > if he's NKVD, or is he way secret like Batman?
>
> You will not find any 'info' on me Max :)
>
> > If so, what is he doing that is so great? I mean, is he inventing
> > new code and machines or doing art or what?
>
> Chuckle.
>
> > Yeah I gotta get over that self-pity. It's making me depressed.
>
> Certainlly.
>
> > Well you are a king-sized liar who did say "welding of man and machine."
>
> Nope. I don't lie, and I didn't utilize the phrase.
>
> > If you want me to learn from you
>
> I don't care to have you learn from me. I was testing your mental
> balance.
>
> > and take your advice,
>
> My advice is not for you.
>
> > you can't be lying and all that other dipsy-doodle shit.
>
> Sorry, max. I'm not lying.
>
> > I think I just crave guidance and a
> > fatherly hand so I always give dudes like you too much mind.
>
> Get a shrink.
>
> > But you come across very convincing, I gotta admit that. I think your
kind
> > will conquer the world.
>
> Inevitably.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> + If the reader will keep me company I shall be glad.
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DISCUSSION

Re: Sloth for Death: google "logos mind genius"


Sophist.Poor litle person without proud.
----- Original Message -----
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
To: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Sloth for Death: google "logos mind genius"

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > No it's you chump.
>
> The only chmp with impoverished psyche here, is you.
>
> > But yeah keep ragging me if you think it will help the
> > world. I guess that's where it's at.
>
> Nobody is ragging you.
>
> > Best of luck with your other pupils!
>
> I've never offered you to be my pupil. Don't flatter yourself.
> I was interested in your ability to maintain mental balance.
> You lack it.
>
> > For my part, I think you are an ass-ramming uncle-fucker.
>
> You can't think.
>
> > However you are in abundant company in saying
> > that Max Herman is not an artist of value, which is what I mean by
> > redundant.
>
> Sweetheart, YOU_ are redundant.
>
> > Also, if you have the guts, send someone you know and respect to
> > genius2000.net and see if they hate it too.
>
> No. And your pathetic knee-jerk bullying is ridiculous.
>
> > I also like how you said your dad and granpa were rich because they had
> > spiritual fortitude.
>
> Yep.
>
> > What's your Mom like?
>
> She's French and spoiled.
>
> > Do you work in Russian VR research labs and all?
>
> No, but I've worked in labs that I cannot tell you about.
> Russian, French, Chinese, Mexican, Turkish, American.
>
> > Do you have any siblings?
>
> Yep.
>
> > Do they hate your guts?
>
> No. I haven't spoken to them in 25 years though.
> Nor do I plan to, ever.
>
> > Also, how old are you?
>
> 47.
>
> > Don't forget to shove a bunch of pierogies up your uncle's ass too while
> > you're at it. He deserves the best.
>
> I'll keave that to you and your uncle.
>
> > I deeply admire all that you have already and will surely in the future
> > accomplish.
>
> Hardly.
>
> > Do you like Nadine Gordimer or William Safire?
>
> Ne.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
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DISCUSSION

Re: Any thoughts on this Death?


Jeb svaju mat!
----- Original Message -----
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
To: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > I'm just saying, don't ask me for it again.
>
> I never asked for it to begin with.
>
> > I think you are a dirty liar
>
> You can't think. And--there are no lies.
>
> > and sickening monster of bad dreams.
>
> No, don't like your unconsciousness? I'm shocked.
>
> > I'm Max Herman.
>
> No. max Herman is a tag.
>
> > You asked me to listen to your wisdom respectfully.
>
> I didn't.
>
> > Now you will have to coerce my respect,
>
> I don't care for your respect, max--you're not capable of it.
> Nor do I 'coerce' people, unlike you.
>
>
> > and even then, I will die insulting you while you torture me with your
> > Rasputin lies and other coercive tactics.
>
> Excellent. I love martyrs.
>
> > Oh really, big fuckin deal. Mr. Independent.
>
> Slighting remarks.
>
> > Only sociopaths talk like you.
>
> Absolutely not.
>
> > Plus you are attacking what I have already achieved,
>
> You haven't achieved anything.
>
> > and undermining my ability to achieve more,
>
> Sniff.
>
> > so I have to consider you dangerous and poisonous.
>
> Right. Nothing to threaten the fragile ego.
>
> > >I'm banned? I think I refused your side recently.
> >
> > Yeah but now you're banned even if you change your mind.
>
> I don't intend to change my mind. I like it fine as it is.
>
> > You're unreliable and untrustworthy.
>
> Sorry. I am perfectly reliable and trustworthy.
> I simply don't intend to play your game. Nor have I
> offered any services to you, so that you'd know
> whether I am reliable and trustworthy. You simply
> want people following your orders.
>
> > You are a dirty predatory liar.
>
> I am not a liar. Nothing wrong with being predatory.
> The Universe is predatory--wake up, rabbit.
>
> > You won't get a chance to refuse it again. You're fired.
>
> Sorry. You don't 'own' or 'employ' me so you cannot 'fire me'.
>
> > Maybe one day I'll be egoless and
> > successful and you'll want a favor and I'll say "hey fuck you bitch."
>
> Yeah. Especially when you're 'egoless'.
>
> > > Ok, Breton.
> >
> > Who's Breton? Like I could give a fuck.
>
> <laughing> Not important, love.
>
> "Karei Kandinskij Death42; told
> > Max Herman he was an egotistical bully who only made things worse by
trying
> > to pimp other people into buying G2K."
>
> That's how it is, Max.
>
> > But I guess you want to keep it ongoing, so yeah now I got one more
punk-ass
> > slasher to look out for.
>
> Babe, the punkass slasher is you.
>
> > >`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42 Is a dirty frontin' liar.
>
> Not at all.
>
> > He did say "welding of machine and man."
>
> Nope.
>
> > He's a pig.
>
> You're childish and imbecillXic.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
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DISCUSSION

Re: Any thoughts on this Death?


What do you meen where you are?About 500 persons is there.What's your
ambicion?To show someboby what hawe you learn in your pathethic
life?Go&live,dead slawe!
----- Original Message -----
From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
To: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Any thoughts on this Death?

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Yes you have, you dirty liar!
>
> No, I haven't.
>
> > You just like to think you're not a preacher.
>
> Not at all.
>
>
> > Yes there is you lying sack of turnips. You said "welding of machine
and
> > man."
>
> No, dear. I didn't. You're pathetic.
>
> > You don't understand anything,
>
> I understand a great deal.
>
> > just your own filthy lies and postures.
>
> The only one lying here is you Max. And posturing as well.
>
>
> > > Just like british poetry.
> >
> > Yeah you're right I don't understand British/English poetry. Fact is,
> > you're a sleazy liar and would say anything to appear honest and
> > knowledgable.
>
> Not at all. I am honest, and I am quite knowledgeable.
> And that is not subject to your opinion.
>
> > OK, you don't like to say it,
>
> I neither like nor dislike.
>
> > you don't dislike it, but you choose to say "Max Herman is a petty
preacher and Genius 2000 is his bullying sermon of
> > crap."
>
> And so it is.
>
> > I just want to be accurate and methodical so you can't come steppin'
> > later and say "Oh I never said 'Max Herman is a petty preacher.'"
>
> Not likely that I'll do that.
>
> > Because we all know you are denying you said "welding of machine and man
can
> > only come from the US." Because you lie, lie, lie. You're a liar.
>
> Sorry, max. I said nothing of the sort. You're simply slandering.
>
> > Chuckle. Yes I do.
>
> Nope. You haven't an ounce of 'good' or 'will'.
>
> > Well, what's new is that you are dirty liar
>
> Sorry, max. I am not a liar.
>
> > who I will neutralize by confirming that you are in fact a liar who
said "welding of machine and man
>
> I never said that phrase.
>
> > can only come from the US, because Europe is weak."
>
> Nor did I make a causal relationship between these two statements.
>
> > >`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42 Is an ignorant liar
>
> Not at all. You're an idiotic bully Max.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
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