manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic
Since 2002
Works in United States of America

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BIO
Belgrade artists Marija Vauda and Nikola Pilipovic have been
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.

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DISCUSSION

Re: wordgames for beginners II


Take opportunity to made art,even aesthetic,in war time and use that
production for self promotion is awful.But I'm artist.If I were
capitalist,my work against war could bee named as capitalistic,even
turbocapitalistic.So,Vijay,make love not art,or...something like that.Your
carefully listener
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:46 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II

> part II:
>
> didn't mean that the anti/art/war posts were superficial
>
> I just meant that propaganda and war and leadership
>
> are artistic
>
>
> even aesthetic
>
>
>
> The Japanese gave their warplanes names like "swooping crane"
>
>
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DISCUSSION

Re: Re: anglo branding for beginners


JOYJOYJOYJOYJOYJOYJOYJOYJOYJO........JOYJOYJOY
I'm glad you wrote that!
Best
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lewis LaCook" <llacook@yahoo.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: anglo branding for beginners

> less hostility, more joy....
>
> PLEEEEEEAAAASE!!!!!
>
> bliss
> l
>
>
> >
>
> Manik,
>
> I answered Rachel's question and offered at the same time a read criticism
of the field; I'm sorry if my humor didn't "play" in the textfields of RAW.
I knew you were joking and figured you would know I was joking too.
>
> I have an ambivilence to a lot written on hypertext precisely because I
feel its limits. I think that its strong Anglo-European bent has resulted in
both a limitation of works discussed and an ignorance of important
historical & cultural predecessors.
>
>
> That's said, I haven't read enough of anything to really have any clue
what I'm talking about. No one has, eh? The blind lead the blind, groping,
struggling in the darkness.
>
>
> I try to be as open as I can; I try to reach out, I realize that my
country's policy of US v them extends beyond political and military policy,
so your implication that I am some kind of warmongering baddie upsets me.
>
>
> Brandon
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, manik wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Hi beginners,
> > There's few thing I want you to know.When Atty refuse few weeks ago my
work,he told me that man without URL is not a proper man.OK.Now he put on
attach one of three photography.Why?It's not rhetorical question because he
also told me that he don't need to look that photos,he already read
newspapers and he can see cover of that newspaper.Have you ewer see cover
like that?His generosity is so touchy.Now!I don't know reason,but ,you know
,we are all together against war.War start just in place like that.Attys
arrogance and obviously small intelligence remind me on people who put us
into this war.Same thing with Mr.Bearr.I've never see somebody with so small
sense for humor and in same time so proud because he read some book.Nice.But
there's one part:" Anyone smoking non-Anglo brands: there's nothing on the
hypertext market > that will interest you, yet. Wait a few years."
> >
> > Well,its nice to go on streets and fight for peace.I warmly recommended
to read carefully and be suspicious because > shit like Atty and Bearr,guys
from neighbor,are the same one whose arrogance million times repeat in
million and million people lids us direct to war.Of course,I don't blame
them for this war.They are small shit for that.But,tomorrow,when they grown
up...Who know.Maybe they are going start to kill people without
URL,worthless people,brandless people,...etc.Oil is just war
acquisition.Human nature is in ground of all wars. > Best
> > MANIK
> >
> >
>
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DISCUSSION

Re: two happy guys


Don't be upset.Generally we are lost in horrible mass.
MANIK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Thomas Barr" <barr@mail.rochester.edu>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: two happy guys

> Manik,
>
> I answered Rachel's question and offered at the same time a read criticism
> of the field; I'm sorry if my humor didn't "play" in the textfields of
> RAW. I knew you were joking and figured you would know I was joking too.
>
> I have an ambivilence to a lot written on hypertext precisely because I
> feel its limits. I think that its strong Anglo-European bent has resulted
> in both a limitation of works discussed and an ignorance of important
> historical & cultural predecessors.
>
> That's said, I haven't read enough of anything to really have any clue
> what I'm talking about. No one has, eh? The blind lead the blind,
> groping, struggling in the darkness.
>
> I try to be as open as I can; I try to reach out, I realize that my
> country's policy of US v them extends beyond political and military
> policy, so your implication that I am some kind of warmongering baddie
> upsets me.
>
> Brandon
>
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, manik wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi beginners,
> > There's few thing I want you to know.When Atty refuse few weeks ago my
work,he told me that man without URL is not a proper man.OK.Now he put on
attach one of three photography.Why?It's not rhetorical question because he
also told me that he don't need to look that photos,he already read
newspapers and he can see cover of that newspaper.Have you ewer see cover
like that?His generosity is so touchy.Now!I don't know reason,but ,you know
,we are all together against war.War start just in place like that.Attys
arrogance and obviously small intelligence remind me on people who put us
into this war.Same thing with Mr.Bearr.I've never see somebody with so small
sense for humor and in same time so proud because he read some book.Nice.But
there's one part:" Anyone smoking non-Anglo brands: there's nothing on the
hypertext market
> > that will interest you, yet. Wait a few years."
> >
> > Well,its nice to go on streets and fight for peace.I warmly recommended
to read carefully and be suspicious because
> > shit like Atty and Bearr,guys from neighbor,are the same one whose
arrogance million times repeat in million and million people lids us direct
to war.Of course,I don't blame them for this war.They are small shit for
that.But,tomorrow,when they grown up...Who know.Maybe they are going start
to kill people without URL,worthless people,brandless people,...etc.Oil is
just war acquisition.Human nature is in ground of all wars.
> > Best
> > MANIK
> >
> >
>
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
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DISCUSSION

Re: >wartime< project events + soundtoys +


Not angry.Just disappointed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "marc.garrett" <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: >wartime< project events + soundtoys +

> Why are you angry with Atty?
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> > I don't want to insult Aty's family.So...Parrot.It's not so bad
solution.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "marc.garrett" <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
> > To: <list@rhizome.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: >wartime< project events + soundtoys +
> >
> >
> > > Hi Manik,
> > >
> > > >fuck your parrot
> > >
> > > I would like to see this parrot that Atty fucks. Is it male or female?
> > Does
> > > it have a beautiful plumage?
> > >
> > > marc
> > >
> > >
> > > > Fuck you,fuck your parrot,and don't write me again.Stupid
> motherfucker!
> > > > MANIK
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "atty" <atty@no-such.com>
> > > > To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
> > > > Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 2:27 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: >wartime< project events + soundtoys +
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I am sorry I wouldn't put your photos in >wartime< project before
> > > > >
> > > > > as I explained before
> > > > >
> > > > > a) the >wartime< project is not a photo gallery, its a project by
> > > > > digital and network artists showing their work in these medium
> > relating
> > > > > to the theme of the project
> > > > >
> > > > > b) I don't know whether it is just my lack of being able to read
> serb,
> > > > > but examples of photo work you sent me when you wanted to join
(the
> > > > > second time) where unintelligble in relation to the theme of the
> > > > > project. An example attached
> > > > >
> > > > > it seems that having tried to join the project twice, now you
> condemn,
> > > > > why?
> > > > >
> > > > > you are removed from open_digi mailing list, with pleasure
> > > > >
> > > > > yours
> > > > > atty
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > manik wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's that?War is goood opportunity for you?People without
ethic
> > are
> > > > > > things.You are less than thing for me.
> > > > > > Unsubscribe me.A don't speak your language,also I feel that
your
> > > PAROLE
> > > > > > sting on you.On your stupidity.
> > > > > > MANIK
> > > > > > .----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "atty" <atty@no-such.com>
> > > > > > To: <list@rhizome.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:31 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: >wartime< project events + soundtoys +
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > hi Rhizome_Raw people
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > contents of mail
> > > > > > > a) the >wartime< project events upcoming
> > > > > > > b) www.soundtoys.net 2003
> > > > > > > c) net-art02? open_digi events news
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a) the >wartime< project events and news
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the >wartime< project at http://offline.area3.net/wartime that
> was
> > > > > > initiated by
> > > > > > > open_digi http://club.net-art.ws and OFFLINE
> > > http://offline.area3.net
> > > > now
> > > > > > has 113
> > > > > > > artists participating coming from all continents, with 88
> > > contributed
> > > > > > pieces listed so
> > > > > > > far. The theme of the project is reflections on and reactions
> > > against
> > > > > > wars, past,
> > > > > > > present and future. The project is now reaching out with
public
> > > > showings
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > events plus good international press coverage to get its
> > collective
> > > > work,
> > > > > > ideas and
> > > > > > > message out to a bigger and bigger audience, both online and
> > > offline.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > LONDON
> > > > > > > 6pm-7.30pm 12th Feb
> > > > > > > THE OTHER CINEMA
> > > > > > > 11 Rupert Street
> > > > > > > London W1V 7FS
> > > > > > > Box Office : 0207 734 1506
> > > > > > > Project participants Ruth Catlow, Andrew Forbes and Elkin
Atwell
> > > will
> > > > be
> > > > > > answering
> > > > > > > any questions from the audience after the 25 minute selection
of
> > > > >wartime<
> > > > > > project
> > > > > > > pieces. The prgramme will conclude with showing of the video
> 'NOT
> > IN
> > > > MY
> > > > > > NAME'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'peace lovers ball'
> > > > > > > Saturday 15th Feb, London UK post the 'Stop the War' march and
> > rally
> > > > > > > This is a seriously underground squat party for 5000 +, all
> night
> > > > after
> > > > > > the demo.
> > > > > > > The venue will be kept secret till 9pm the 15th, ring after
this
> > > time
> > > > 0207
> > > > > > 644 5170
> > > > > > > or 07971 273 481 to get venue location details. The >wartime<
> > > project
> > > > will
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > shown in a cinema type space of the party in between relevant
> > video
> > > > > > > documentaries.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > LOS ANGELES
> > > > > > > \"Mario's night for peace\"
> > > > > > > from 8pm, Saturday 15th, LA, US
> > > > > > > with projections of >wartime< project and music from mr tamale
> and
> > > > video
> > > > > > from the
> > > > > > > local anti-war rallies
> > > > > > > http://www.mariosfurniture.info/
> > > > > > > http://offline.area3.net/wartime/press/invite.gif
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mario's
> > > > > > > 3436 1/2 N. Figueroa Street
> > > > > > > Los Angeles, CA 90065
> > > > > > > ph: 323 / 221-4020
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > future shows in the next few months are in planning for Mexico
> > City,
> > > > > > Bristol UK,
> > > > > > > Amsterdam, Madrid, Rome and Barcelona to name a few ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >wartime< project press release and invite to pariticipate are
> > > > available
> > > > > > in english,
> > > > > > > french, italian, german, spanish, portugese and finnish at
> > > > > > > http://offline.area3.net/wartime/eng2.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > b) www.soundtoys.net
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > NEW work 2003
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are looking for contributions of audio visual interactive
> > works,
> > > > net
> > > > > > art, web
> > > > > > > design, application software, multimedia, generative music,
> > > > interactive
> > > > > > > environments,essays. Works may take the form of art,
generative
> > > music,
> > > > > > interactive
> > > > > > > environments. They could be described as \"new audio visual
> > > > experiences\",
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > multimedia experiments which explore the parameters of our new
> > media
> > > > > > world. This
> > > > > > > work is for a new website update and for selected exhibitions.
> The
> > > > > > Soundtoys site
> > > > > > > aims to provide a platform for the very best in audiovisual
net
> > > > artworks
> > > > > > to be
> > > > > > > presented and debated and if your work will make a valuable
> > > > contribution
> > > > > > to this
> > > > > > > then please send it in. Soundtoys has been featured at Sonar,
on
> > > > Sonify,
> > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > Independent, and on English TV. Soundtoys has also been
> exhibited
> > at
> > > > > > > international festivals including den Hague film festival
> Holland,
> > > and
> > > > > > Zeppelin in
> > > > > > > Barcelona. It was also be featured at Garage in Germany.
> Soundtoys
> > > > also
> > > > > > > organised it own exhibitions which the last was at the ICA in
> > London
> > > > from
> > > > > > June to
> > > > > > > July 2002. The
> > > > > > > exhibition called Convergence featured over 100 artists from
the
> > > audio
> > > > > > visuals arts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are seeking new work for the 2003 series of events and for
> the
> > > > website.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. New online audio visual experiences. Works for the website
> send
> > > in
> > > > your
> > > > > > > latest \"new audio visual experience\". We are interested in
the
> > use
> > > > of
> > > > > > all internet
> > > > > > > friendly programming technologies eg shockwave, flash, vrml,
> java
> > > etc.
> > > > so
> > > > > > send in
> > > > > > > via email..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. Installations. If you make interactive installations send
in
> > 400
> > > > words
> > > > > > about the
> > > > > > > work and four images of the work. We are interested in
> responsive
> > > > > > environments,
> > > > > > > soundspaces , the city as sound.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. Software. Artists and musicians software. This year we are
> > > > particularly
> > > > > > interested
> > > > > > > in applications created by artists for a new area. If you make
> > > patches
> > > > or
> > > > > > > applications tell us about it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 4. Journal. If you write about new media, interactive arts ,
and
> > > would
> > > > > > like to be in
> > > > > > > the journal send us a finished text. We welcome texts, essays,
> > > papers
> > > > or
> > > > > > articles
> > > > > > > relating to this medium.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 5. Offline. Soundtoys are being asked to present the works
> offline
> > > at
> > > > > > festivals. If
> > > > > > > you want to take part send in audio visual works and
interactive
> > art
> > > > > > pieces. These
> > > > > > > must be finished projects. Send larger works and information
in
> by
> > > > cd-rom
> > > > > > only via
> > > > > > > post.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you work in any of the areas above we would like to hear
from
> > > you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Zip up your work and send all info about it. Don't forget to
> > include
> > > > > > relevant
> > > > > > > details.ie your name, project title, year created, brief bio,
> text
> > > > info
> > > > > > about the work,
> > > > > > > and also send the work. Please send all of the work including
> the
> > > html
> > > > > > files. If you
> > > > > > > files are too big but you would like it presented at festival
> send
> > > in
> > > > a
> > > > > > cd-rom version.
> > > > > > > DO not just send us a link and say check it out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Application form online.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > DEADLINE MARCH 15 2003
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SOUNDTOYS.NET
> > > > > > > web and info... .... http://www.soundtoys.net
> > > > > > > email .......... ..... info@soundtoys.net
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ===============================
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > c) net-art02/03? open_digi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > as some of you may have noticed there has been no 2002 edition
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > 'net-art'
> > > > > > > open arena at www.net-art.ws organised or announced. As you
can
> > see
> > > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > list of >wartime< project events and hapenings at top of this
> > mail,
> > > > for
> > > > > > the duration
> > > > > > > this is taking up the majority of available time of people
> > > previously
> > > > > > involved in
> > > > > > > running the annual 'net-art' event. So I am afraid this
edition
> of
> > > > > > 'net-art' will not
> > > > > > > happen. Hopefully things will be more peaceful by the
> appropriate
> > > time
> > > > for
> > > > > > a net-
> > > > > > > art03.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Similarly with so many shows and events of >wartime< planned
or
> in
> > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > around the world, its really not possible to continue the
> monthly
> > > > local
> > > > > > open_digi
> > > > > > > events in Brixton, South London for the time being.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks for your support
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > yours sincerely
> > > > > > > atty
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
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> > >
> >
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DISCUSSION

two happy guys


Hi beginners,
There's few thing I want you to know.When Atty refuse few weeks ago my work=
,he told me that man without URL is not a proper man.OK.Now he put on attac=
h one of three photography.Why?It's not rhetorical question because he also=
told me that he don't need to look that photos,he already read newspapers =
and he can see cover of that newspaper.Have you ewer see cover like that?Hi=
s generosity is so touchy.Now!I don't know reason,but ,you know ,we are all=
together against war.War start just in place like that.Attys arrogance and=
obviously small intelligence remind me on people who put us into this war.=
Same thing with Mr.Bearr.I've never see somebody with so small sense for hu=
mor and in same time so proud because he read some book.Nice.But there's on=
e part:" Anyone smoking non-Anglo brands: there's nothing on the hypertext =
market
that will interest you, yet. Wait a few years."

Well,its nice to go on streets and fight for peace.I warmly recommended to =
read carefully and be suspicious because
shit like Atty and Bearr,guys from neighbor,are the same one whose arroganc=
e million times repeat in million and million people lids us direct to war.=
Of course,I don't blame them for this war.They are small shit for that.But,=
tomorrow,when they grown up...Who know.Maybe they are going start to kill p=
eople without URL,worthless people,brandless people,...etc.Oil is just war =
acquisition.Human nature is in ground of all wars.
Best
MANIK