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BIO
Belgrade artists Marija Vauda and Nikola Pilipovic have been
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.
Re: draw-something
Hi Dirk,
This is MANIK from hell.
Let's get to work:for you randomness mean same as a concept("For me randomn=
ess, the concept, ...)
This is interesting idea and I dare to see rot of it could be in Dutchman's=
fight for fertility land,fight against nature(fait against randomness of s=
ee, the concept of other entity,God maybe.)American Pioneer have some of th=
at madness but they were cruel murder if is necessary,and of curse God was =
good/necessary for pardon of sins)."So help me God!",they said and kill som=
e Iraqi child,or Indian,it doesn't matter.
Man have to established full control,he's uber alles,he rule over nature-in=
this moment this represent retro-modernistic concept with element of fasci=
sm(genetic control and modular stile of space/mind strategic organization),=
fancy,inn,mostly in design,and fashion,in "modular"architecture etc...Signi=
ficant historical example were Mondrian's neoplasticism,and Le Corbusier bu=
ildings.But even in Mondrians work was element of randomness,intentionally =
provoke suspense(Bugi-Vugi serial from NYC,40-this,...to much randomness,to=
many blots).
I think that you wish people-machine who work perfect until they stop.One's=
for ever,The End!(?)Plastic doll who you could bore when became nasty?
My humble experience with mechanism who investigate random/rule-tarot,and s=
imilar discipline are para-scientist,worthless and extremely personal as an=
experience and they're in strange co-relation with J.Koons statement(parap=
hrase):"We have to be objective and reduce influence of subconsiousnes."Whi=
ch mean that we can see our self's in every sense of this word(future,desti=
ny,...)but what's the purpose?If you are afraid of concept act like they do=
esn't existed.If you hate randomness there's no Superman anymore(he broke h=
is neck and die)to save us.It looks to me that we must live with legs sprea=
d between random and predictable.See explanation of card"Chariot",and legen=
d about Medusa,Orpheus&Eurydice,emotions?:)
Cheers
MANIK
For me randomness, the concept, is a nightmare, it's quicksand, it is the
one thing i can think of that's worse then (pick any random worst horror).
The day Superman solves random we'll all go to heaven (yes, even you manik).
Try it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random
They (we) can't even get the wikipedia article straightened out.
dv
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org]
> Namens Pall Thayer
> Verzonden: woensdag 11 januari 2006 15:55
> Aan: Rob Myers
> CC: Rhizome Raw list
> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: draw-something
>
> Hi Rob,
> I was looking at this and find it interesting. Thanks for
> sharing the code with us. There are a couple of questions
> that come to mind. I'd like to know if you have any plans of
> making the lines more "pencil"- like by creating a more
> expressive line. I feel this is an issue that has been
> largely overlooked by people working with automated drawing
> processes. They tend to look really flat and dead because of it.
> AARON, for instance, suffers from a severe case of flatness
> that could be easily cured by some simple, maybe even random,
> variation in line thickness and length. There's an
> interesting project called Freestyle that's working on this
> (among other things) at http://
> freestyle.sourceforge.net/index.php (source available).
>
> Also, I noticed this on your blog:
> "The shapes are random. The colours are random. At worst I'm
> showing one in every three of these images.
>
> Randomness gives good results far more often than it should.
> Is it the heuristics I'm coding in, or is aesthetics really random?
>
> Time to start adding rules."
>
> I think it has to do with the range of data. Random is going
> to use the whole range of data equally whereas something like
> weather is going to be concentrated in predictable area's of
> the full range.
> Personally, I think it's really interesting to see what
> happens with different types of data. If you experiment with
> different data sources, I think you'll find that they each
> have their own significant character which could in turn be
> interesting to mix together.
>
> Pall
>
> On 10.1.2006, at 18:56, Rob Myers wrote:
>
> > I have been working on my program draw-something.
> >
> > There's a Flash version (made with MTASC):
> >
> > http://draw-something.robmyers.org/
> >
> > And the Lisp version now makes multiple figures and
> coloured figures:
> >
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/11/purely-random-colour/
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/08/draw-something-drawing/
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/08/a-change-of-algorithm-for-
> > draw-something/
> >
> > Source for all versions available from sourceforge CVS
> along with some
> > recent release bundles:
> >
> > http:://rob-art.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > - Rob.
> > +
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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> > subscribe.rhiz
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> > +
> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
> > 29.php
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Pall Thayer
> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
> http://www.this.is/pallit
>
>
>
>
>
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This is MANIK from hell.
Let's get to work:for you randomness mean same as a concept("For me randomn=
ess, the concept, ...)
This is interesting idea and I dare to see rot of it could be in Dutchman's=
fight for fertility land,fight against nature(fait against randomness of s=
ee, the concept of other entity,God maybe.)American Pioneer have some of th=
at madness but they were cruel murder if is necessary,and of curse God was =
good/necessary for pardon of sins)."So help me God!",they said and kill som=
e Iraqi child,or Indian,it doesn't matter.
Man have to established full control,he's uber alles,he rule over nature-in=
this moment this represent retro-modernistic concept with element of fasci=
sm(genetic control and modular stile of space/mind strategic organization),=
fancy,inn,mostly in design,and fashion,in "modular"architecture etc...Signi=
ficant historical example were Mondrian's neoplasticism,and Le Corbusier bu=
ildings.But even in Mondrians work was element of randomness,intentionally =
provoke suspense(Bugi-Vugi serial from NYC,40-this,...to much randomness,to=
many blots).
I think that you wish people-machine who work perfect until they stop.One's=
for ever,The End!(?)Plastic doll who you could bore when became nasty?
My humble experience with mechanism who investigate random/rule-tarot,and s=
imilar discipline are para-scientist,worthless and extremely personal as an=
experience and they're in strange co-relation with J.Koons statement(parap=
hrase):"We have to be objective and reduce influence of subconsiousnes."Whi=
ch mean that we can see our self's in every sense of this word(future,desti=
ny,...)but what's the purpose?If you are afraid of concept act like they do=
esn't existed.If you hate randomness there's no Superman anymore(he broke h=
is neck and die)to save us.It looks to me that we must live with legs sprea=
d between random and predictable.See explanation of card"Chariot",and legen=
d about Medusa,Orpheus&Eurydice,emotions?:)
Cheers
MANIK
For me randomness, the concept, is a nightmare, it's quicksand, it is the
one thing i can think of that's worse then (pick any random worst horror).
The day Superman solves random we'll all go to heaven (yes, even you manik).
Try it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random
They (we) can't even get the wikipedia article straightened out.
dv
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org]
> Namens Pall Thayer
> Verzonden: woensdag 11 januari 2006 15:55
> Aan: Rob Myers
> CC: Rhizome Raw list
> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: draw-something
>
> Hi Rob,
> I was looking at this and find it interesting. Thanks for
> sharing the code with us. There are a couple of questions
> that come to mind. I'd like to know if you have any plans of
> making the lines more "pencil"- like by creating a more
> expressive line. I feel this is an issue that has been
> largely overlooked by people working with automated drawing
> processes. They tend to look really flat and dead because of it.
> AARON, for instance, suffers from a severe case of flatness
> that could be easily cured by some simple, maybe even random,
> variation in line thickness and length. There's an
> interesting project called Freestyle that's working on this
> (among other things) at http://
> freestyle.sourceforge.net/index.php (source available).
>
> Also, I noticed this on your blog:
> "The shapes are random. The colours are random. At worst I'm
> showing one in every three of these images.
>
> Randomness gives good results far more often than it should.
> Is it the heuristics I'm coding in, or is aesthetics really random?
>
> Time to start adding rules."
>
> I think it has to do with the range of data. Random is going
> to use the whole range of data equally whereas something like
> weather is going to be concentrated in predictable area's of
> the full range.
> Personally, I think it's really interesting to see what
> happens with different types of data. If you experiment with
> different data sources, I think you'll find that they each
> have their own significant character which could in turn be
> interesting to mix together.
>
> Pall
>
> On 10.1.2006, at 18:56, Rob Myers wrote:
>
> > I have been working on my program draw-something.
> >
> > There's a Flash version (made with MTASC):
> >
> > http://draw-something.robmyers.org/
> >
> > And the Lisp version now makes multiple figures and
> coloured figures:
> >
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/11/purely-random-colour/
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/08/draw-something-drawing/
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/08/a-change-of-algorithm-for-
> > draw-something/
> >
> > Source for all versions available from sourceforge CVS
> along with some
> > recent release bundles:
> >
> > http:://rob-art.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > - Rob.
> > +
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
> > subscribe.rhiz
> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > +
> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
> > 29.php
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Pall Thayer
> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
> http://www.this.is/pallit
>
>
>
>
>
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
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Re: draw-something
Hi Dirk,
This is MANIK from hell.
Let's get to work:for you randomness mean same as a concept("For me randomn=
ess, the concept, ...)
This is interesting idea and I dare to see rot of it could be in Dutchman's=
fight for fertility land,fight against nature(fait against randomness of s=
ee, the concept of other entity,God maybe.)American Pioneer have some of th=
at madness but they were cruel murder if is necessary,and of curse God was =
good/necessary for pardon of sins)."So help me God!",they said and kill som=
e Iraqi child,or Indian,it doesn't matter.
Man have to established full control,he's uber alles,he rule over nature-in=
this moment this represent retro-modernistic concept with element of fasci=
sm(genetic control and modular stile of space/mind strategic organization),=
fancy,inn,mostly in design,and fashion,in "modular"architecture etc...Signi=
ficant historical example were Mondrian's neoplasticism,and Le Corbusier bu=
ildings.But even in Mondrians work was element of randomness,intentionally =
provoke suspense(Bugi-Vugi serial from NYC,40-this,...to much randomness,to=
many blots).
I think that you wish people-machine who work perfect until they stop.One's=
for ever,The End!(?)Plastic doll who you could bore when became nasty?
My humble experience with mechanism who investigate random/rule-tarot,and s=
imilar discipline are para-scientist,worthless and extremely personal as an=
experience and they're in strange co-relation with J.Koons statement(parap=
hrase):"We have to be objective and reduce influence of subconsiousnes."Whi=
ch mean that we can see our self's in every sense of this word(future,desti=
ny,...)but what's the purpose?If you are afraid of concept act like they do=
esn't existed.If you hate randomness there's no Superman anymore(he broke h=
is neck and die)to save us.It looks to me that we must live with legs sprea=
d between random and predictable.See explanation of card"Chariot",and legen=
d about Medusa,Orpheus&Eurydice,emotions?:)
Cheers
MANIK
For me randomness, the concept, is a nightmare, it's quicksand, it is the
one thing i can think of that's worse then (pick any random worst horror).
The day Superman solves random we'll all go to heaven (yes, even you manik).
Try it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random
They (we) can't even get the wikipedia article straightened out.
dv
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org]
> Namens Pall Thayer
> Verzonden: woensdag 11 januari 2006 15:55
> Aan: Rob Myers
> CC: Rhizome Raw list
> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: draw-something
>
> Hi Rob,
> I was looking at this and find it interesting. Thanks for
> sharing the code with us. There are a couple of questions
> that come to mind. I'd like to know if you have any plans of
> making the lines more "pencil"- like by creating a more
> expressive line. I feel this is an issue that has been
> largely overlooked by people working with automated drawing
> processes. They tend to look really flat and dead because of it.
> AARON, for instance, suffers from a severe case of flatness
> that could be easily cured by some simple, maybe even random,
> variation in line thickness and length. There's an
> interesting project called Freestyle that's working on this
> (among other things) at http://
> freestyle.sourceforge.net/index.php (source available).
>
> Also, I noticed this on your blog:
> "The shapes are random. The colours are random. At worst I'm
> showing one in every three of these images.
>
> Randomness gives good results far more often than it should.
> Is it the heuristics I'm coding in, or is aesthetics really random?
>
> Time to start adding rules."
>
> I think it has to do with the range of data. Random is going
> to use the whole range of data equally whereas something like
> weather is going to be concentrated in predictable area's of
> the full range.
> Personally, I think it's really interesting to see what
> happens with different types of data. If you experiment with
> different data sources, I think you'll find that they each
> have their own significant character which could in turn be
> interesting to mix together.
>
> Pall
>
> On 10.1.2006, at 18:56, Rob Myers wrote:
>
> > I have been working on my program draw-something.
> >
> > There's a Flash version (made with MTASC):
> >
> > http://draw-something.robmyers.org/
> >
> > And the Lisp version now makes multiple figures and
> coloured figures:
> >
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/11/purely-random-colour/
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/08/draw-something-drawing/
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/08/a-change-of-algorithm-for-
> > draw-something/
> >
> > Source for all versions available from sourceforge CVS
> along with some
> > recent release bundles:
> >
> > http:://rob-art.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > - Rob.
> > +
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
> > subscribe.rhiz
> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > +
> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
> > 29.php
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Pall Thayer
> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
> http://www.this.is/pallit
>
>
>
>
>
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in
> the Membership Agreement available online at
> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
+
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This is MANIK from hell.
Let's get to work:for you randomness mean same as a concept("For me randomn=
ess, the concept, ...)
This is interesting idea and I dare to see rot of it could be in Dutchman's=
fight for fertility land,fight against nature(fait against randomness of s=
ee, the concept of other entity,God maybe.)American Pioneer have some of th=
at madness but they were cruel murder if is necessary,and of curse God was =
good/necessary for pardon of sins)."So help me God!",they said and kill som=
e Iraqi child,or Indian,it doesn't matter.
Man have to established full control,he's uber alles,he rule over nature-in=
this moment this represent retro-modernistic concept with element of fasci=
sm(genetic control and modular stile of space/mind strategic organization),=
fancy,inn,mostly in design,and fashion,in "modular"architecture etc...Signi=
ficant historical example were Mondrian's neoplasticism,and Le Corbusier bu=
ildings.But even in Mondrians work was element of randomness,intentionally =
provoke suspense(Bugi-Vugi serial from NYC,40-this,...to much randomness,to=
many blots).
I think that you wish people-machine who work perfect until they stop.One's=
for ever,The End!(?)Plastic doll who you could bore when became nasty?
My humble experience with mechanism who investigate random/rule-tarot,and s=
imilar discipline are para-scientist,worthless and extremely personal as an=
experience and they're in strange co-relation with J.Koons statement(parap=
hrase):"We have to be objective and reduce influence of subconsiousnes."Whi=
ch mean that we can see our self's in every sense of this word(future,desti=
ny,...)but what's the purpose?If you are afraid of concept act like they do=
esn't existed.If you hate randomness there's no Superman anymore(he broke h=
is neck and die)to save us.It looks to me that we must live with legs sprea=
d between random and predictable.See explanation of card"Chariot",and legen=
d about Medusa,Orpheus&Eurydice,emotions?:)
Cheers
MANIK
For me randomness, the concept, is a nightmare, it's quicksand, it is the
one thing i can think of that's worse then (pick any random worst horror).
The day Superman solves random we'll all go to heaven (yes, even you manik).
Try it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random
They (we) can't even get the wikipedia article straightened out.
dv
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org]
> Namens Pall Thayer
> Verzonden: woensdag 11 januari 2006 15:55
> Aan: Rob Myers
> CC: Rhizome Raw list
> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: draw-something
>
> Hi Rob,
> I was looking at this and find it interesting. Thanks for
> sharing the code with us. There are a couple of questions
> that come to mind. I'd like to know if you have any plans of
> making the lines more "pencil"- like by creating a more
> expressive line. I feel this is an issue that has been
> largely overlooked by people working with automated drawing
> processes. They tend to look really flat and dead because of it.
> AARON, for instance, suffers from a severe case of flatness
> that could be easily cured by some simple, maybe even random,
> variation in line thickness and length. There's an
> interesting project called Freestyle that's working on this
> (among other things) at http://
> freestyle.sourceforge.net/index.php (source available).
>
> Also, I noticed this on your blog:
> "The shapes are random. The colours are random. At worst I'm
> showing one in every three of these images.
>
> Randomness gives good results far more often than it should.
> Is it the heuristics I'm coding in, or is aesthetics really random?
>
> Time to start adding rules."
>
> I think it has to do with the range of data. Random is going
> to use the whole range of data equally whereas something like
> weather is going to be concentrated in predictable area's of
> the full range.
> Personally, I think it's really interesting to see what
> happens with different types of data. If you experiment with
> different data sources, I think you'll find that they each
> have their own significant character which could in turn be
> interesting to mix together.
>
> Pall
>
> On 10.1.2006, at 18:56, Rob Myers wrote:
>
> > I have been working on my program draw-something.
> >
> > There's a Flash version (made with MTASC):
> >
> > http://draw-something.robmyers.org/
> >
> > And the Lisp version now makes multiple figures and
> coloured figures:
> >
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/11/purely-random-colour/
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/08/draw-something-drawing/
> > http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2006/01/08/a-change-of-algorithm-for-
> > draw-something/
> >
> > Source for all versions available from sourceforge CVS
> along with some
> > recent release bundles:
> >
> > http:://rob-art.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > - Rob.
> > +
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
> > subscribe.rhiz
> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > +
> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
> > 29.php
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Pall Thayer
> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
> http://www.this.is/pallit
>
>
>
>
>
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
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RHIZOME_RAW: Genius 2000: A New Network
Hi Genius 2000!
(Genius for all the time,this "2000" is his secret name,cover,mask,illusion=
,expression of his moderation maybe...)
He keep his word&I hardly wait to read his book!
This is opportunity to remind Rhizome members on extraordinary people who a=
re absent
from list and we(MANIK)fell that they return will be really joy like Max's =
return.
Some names:Kandinskij(&something),Yashir Husain,Wiyau Pattisapu...
MANIK
(Genius for all the time,this "2000" is his secret name,cover,mask,illusion=
,expression of his moderation maybe...)
He keep his word&I hardly wait to read his book!
This is opportunity to remind Rhizome members on extraordinary people who a=
re absent
from list and we(MANIK)fell that they return will be really joy like Max's =
return.
Some names:Kandinskij(&something),Yashir Husain,Wiyau Pattisapu...
MANIK
and i am intrested
Hi well educated and smart Rhizomers,
and i am intrested
in building up of robots and i wanted to more about it ...
MANIK
and i am intrested
in building up of robots and i wanted to more about it ...
MANIK
RHIZOME_RAW: Are you Adolphe Smelly Sox?
Ohhhhhh!You stab my hart!
"Questions are worst kind of aggression."(E.Canneti: "Masse und Macht")
Are you fool around dude?
And what about that?
Is that some dirty joke?
Who are you?
Rhizome_Raw is relatively serious place for rich and stupid,so why you piss=
on it?
Nasty,nasty gay....
We must keep Rhizome clean and WASP&chastity!
You know that,you mischievous,perverted, child?
MANIK
Nasty Boy wrote:
Do you sell perfumes?
Do you alarm others needlessly?
Do you avow your great intelligence?
Do you take a solemn oath?
Are you given to gossiping?
Are you a vulgariser, treater, inducer or conferee?
Do you make promises?
Do you propagate, ramble, roar, scream, screech, shout or yell?
Do you commiserate with wafflers?
Or warn the answerer?
So you comfort the swearer, do you?
Do you make belts?
Do you brew beer, repair shoes or generate complaints?
Are you a shirtmaker, a glassmaker or a needleworker?
Do you make watches, tools, violins or wigs?
Are you Adolphe Sax?
http://www.vilt.net/nkdee/USSR.jsp
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.jspgreetings,
dv @ Neue Kathedrale des erotischen Elends
http://www.vilt.net/nkdee <BLOCKED::http://www.vilt.net/nkdee>
"Questions are worst kind of aggression."(E.Canneti: "Masse und Macht")
Are you fool around dude?
And what about that?
Is that some dirty joke?
Who are you?
Rhizome_Raw is relatively serious place for rich and stupid,so why you piss=
on it?
Nasty,nasty gay....
We must keep Rhizome clean and WASP&chastity!
You know that,you mischievous,perverted, child?
MANIK
Nasty Boy wrote:
Do you sell perfumes?
Do you alarm others needlessly?
Do you avow your great intelligence?
Do you take a solemn oath?
Are you given to gossiping?
Are you a vulgariser, treater, inducer or conferee?
Do you make promises?
Do you propagate, ramble, roar, scream, screech, shout or yell?
Do you commiserate with wafflers?
Or warn the answerer?
So you comfort the swearer, do you?
Do you make belts?
Do you brew beer, repair shoes or generate complaints?
Are you a shirtmaker, a glassmaker or a needleworker?
Do you make watches, tools, violins or wigs?
Are you Adolphe Sax?
http://www.vilt.net/nkdee/USSR.jsp
<BLOCKED::http://www.vilt.net/nkdee/USSR>
.jspgreetings,
dv @ Neue Kathedrale des erotischen Elends
http://www.vilt.net/nkdee <BLOCKED::http://www.vilt.net/nkdee>