manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic
Since 2002
Works in United States of America

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BIO
Belgrade artists Marija Vauda and Nikola Pilipovic have been
collaborating as MANIK since 1999.Their work reflects the
march of history, sometimes literally outside their studio, and a
dialogue with the international artistic community through
organisations and events such as Rhizome and Free Manifesta. Tiija is
their first weblog piece, their previous work has been in mediums as
diverse as video, performance, happenings, email, painting and
installation.

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DISCUSSION

Fw: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: why so little discussion?


Jim Andrews wrote:

>i'm not sure if it also means that images cannot be included, not as
>attachments, but as visible in emails?

MANIK wrote:
We NEVER send attachments to Rhizome_Raw.
It's just Mr.Hwang hallucination.

MANIK

-------Original Message-------

From: Francis Hwang
Date: Monday, November 22, 2004 05:02:04 PM
To: list@rhizome.org
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: why so little discussion?

One small thing to add to this discussion:

On Nov 19, 2004, at 6:32 PM, manik wrote:

> After more than hundred Maniks IMAGES,suddenly Rhizome_Raw refuse to
> publish
> them further.
> Is that way to show us power?Or teaching us democracy?

If you're talking about no longer being able to send along attachments
through list@rhizome.org, that's an anti-spam measure. Now,
theoretically I could go to heroic measures to configure sendmail to
try to distinguish between good attachments (manik's images) and bad
attachments (Outlook virii), and then make sure those configurations
are kept up to date as a new Windows virus comes out every fucking
week. But just imagine, I actually have better things to do, so goodbye
attachments.

Also, I think MTAA's piece is cool too.

Francis Hwang
Director of Technology
Rhizome.org
phone: 212-219-1288x202
AIM: francisrhizome
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-> questions: info@rhizome.org
-> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
-> give: http://rhizome.org/support
-> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is open to non-members
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DISCUSSION

Belive me YOU have no better things to do


Belive me YOU have no better things to do.I suppose you are just lazy,and
you don't care for imagination&education.So don't shit us about MANIK's good
images,because there was some images after Manik's on Rhizome_Raw(average
correct images).After all we expect you to be hero,and continued to
published our images.Why?Because is one of best thing on Rhizome_Raw
Why?Because we make Rhizome popular in two million city called Belgrade
Why?Because you are going to received after we leave slavery trash from our
country(remember KUDA.ORG, interview on Rhizome,"brave" young people
financed from abroad?Is that what you want;soft,servile,pathetic flattery
crowd on Rhizome... Are you want to be hero for them?Because people like
them are always prepare to be humble,and under you,and in your lazy ass?Do
you want that kind of mirror?Is that what you are?Coward?Virus!Yes,most of
YOU are infected by that virus called lazy-coward. Why?Because you can't
tolerate our quality,you are jealous(when we said you it's not just Mr.Hwang
there's so many you's...)And we do not understand what's happened with your
brain people?We never said MTTA's piece is not COOL(what a stupid
expression!),we said-funny,sad...&hopeless.
Mr.Hwang wrote;
>One small thing to add to this discussion:
Everything you can ewer do is small,actualy.So don't be small,be hero,for
ones:-)

MANIK
Marija Vauda Nikola Pilipovic
artist
11000 Belgrade
Bulevar Stefana Nemanje 74
Serbia
Tel.(011)2764-152
mob.063 864 10 50
-------Original Message-------

From: Francis Hwang
Date: Monday, November 22, 2004 05:02:04 PM
To: list@rhizome.org
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: why so little discussion?

One small thing to add to this discussion:

On Nov 19, 2004, at 6:32 PM, manik wrote:

> After more than hundred Maniks IMAGES,suddenly Rhizome_Raw refuse to
> publish
> them further.
> Is that way to show us power?Or teaching us democracy?

If you're talking about no longer being able to send along attachments
through list@rhizome.org, that's an anti-spam measure. Now,
theoretically I could go to heroic measures to configure sendmail to
try to distinguish between good attachments (manik's images) and bad
attachments (Outlook virii), and then make sure those configurations
are kept up to date as a new Windows virus comes out every fucking
week. But just imagine, I actually have better things to do, so goodbye
attachments.

Also, I think MTAA's piece is cool too.

Francis Hwang
Director of Technology
Rhizome.org
phone: 212-219-1288x202
AIM: francisrhizome
+ + +

+
-> post: list@rhizome.org
-> questions: info@rhizome.org
-> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
-> give: http://rhizome.org/support
-> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is open to non-members
+
Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php

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DISCUSSION

teocratic socialism


Mesopotamia and Summer ... Period (3500-3000 BCE)

theocratic socialism -
- operates on the assumption that there are gods (polytheism). Each city-=
state
chooses a favorite god/goddess
- this god/goddess sponsors the city-state
- All things within the city-state theoretically belong to this god/goddes=
s (land,
people, and anything they produce)
- Most holy temple, dedicated to god/goddess is placed atop the ziggurat
- Temple staff (priests, priestesses, scribes) perform rituals in temple.
- Also store accounts, records, and supplies
I try to enlighten surcomstances and roots which lied us to understand econ=
omy in particular area.Stylites were Christian
who live in mostly in today's Syria,and Turkey(Anadolia)because climate was=
convenience.
Also,there's long ascetic tradition in India and Far East,and we ignore th=
at without any strong reason.
Work as a specific expression of humanity was invented in XVIIIcentury.
French bourgeois considered them self's as RACE(end of XVIIIcentury,M.Fouco=
ult).
Indifference is in English language sans XV century.
History was invented also in XVIIIcentury.
Methodology which use Marxist terminology to explained what happens before =
two thousand years is nonsense.Why not to use terms; cyber,computer,DNK,pri=
on,A-bomb
to describe Renaissance, for example?
No doubt,Marx theories about capital is important for serious research of t=
oday's term-capitalism.Structuralism,post-structuralism...is impossible to =
understand without
Marxism.
Jesus was working class theoretic and lieder?
MANIK

DISCUSSION

"ryan griffis"


ryan griffis"

"who could afford to
stay in a cell for a year anyway?"
"freedom" "unproductive"
"elegance" "affording it."
"virtual" "compressed."
"fanniness," "sadness"
"hopelessness"
"groupthink"
"devotional living."
"performance artist

DISCUSSION

Fw: DIARY for beginners


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