Membership fee?
>Then someone suggested charging a membership fee. This idea has been
>proposed before, and I have always opposed it. Rhizome is for
>everyone, I argued, not just for those who can afford it. I argued
>that we'd lose thousands of members and that our community would
>become less diverse.
I want to go on record to say that I have proposed this before to
Tribe and basically was publicly scolded for even thinking about it
:-}
The issue here is not whether a fee is prudent but what will the
mandate be? Are you charging a fee just to survive or are you doing
it because you want to build a future? There are many things to take
into consideration like future funding. If Rhizome takes this
opportunity and goes about charging, I see it as a necessary and
absolutely ground breaking statement on the realities of netArt.
By Rhizome taking this step it would through the veil off the fallacy
that you can do this kind of project for nothing. As the community
grows, so do the technology and resources needed and that does not
come cheap. Do organizations like the Rockefeller understand that?
Look, they are judging netArt pieces (made in Java) in old iMacs with
233 mhz so I don't think a lot of these people care whether an extra
server or an XML clean-up of the site costs money (and yes, I am
fucking biting the hand that has fed me).
The whole situation is grim. Here at Napier central we are trying to
figure out where the income is going to come from but so do many many
people in NYC. We have neighbors who run the gamut of incomes, from
stockbrokers and ad people to nannies and waiters and many have been
out of a job for over a year. So it is not just Rhizome that's
hurting, everybody in NYC has been hurting even before 9/11. The
attack just made matters worse.
I say go for it. And do yourself a favor and just start at $5 dollar.
Go as high as you want. Make different memberships, just like the
museums. You do not have to reinvent the wheel.
One special request --make sure your by-laws are accessible to
everyone and please post all financials just like the 501(c)
guidelines advice. Rhizome is already in the income bracket (over
250K) that calls for such posting of information to all users/members
of the organization. Also, I would love it if Rhizome opened its
board meeting to the membership.
Best,
Liza Sabater-Napier
>proposed before, and I have always opposed it. Rhizome is for
>everyone, I argued, not just for those who can afford it. I argued
>that we'd lose thousands of members and that our community would
>become less diverse.
I want to go on record to say that I have proposed this before to
Tribe and basically was publicly scolded for even thinking about it
:-}
The issue here is not whether a fee is prudent but what will the
mandate be? Are you charging a fee just to survive or are you doing
it because you want to build a future? There are many things to take
into consideration like future funding. If Rhizome takes this
opportunity and goes about charging, I see it as a necessary and
absolutely ground breaking statement on the realities of netArt.
By Rhizome taking this step it would through the veil off the fallacy
that you can do this kind of project for nothing. As the community
grows, so do the technology and resources needed and that does not
come cheap. Do organizations like the Rockefeller understand that?
Look, they are judging netArt pieces (made in Java) in old iMacs with
233 mhz so I don't think a lot of these people care whether an extra
server or an XML clean-up of the site costs money (and yes, I am
fucking biting the hand that has fed me).
The whole situation is grim. Here at Napier central we are trying to
figure out where the income is going to come from but so do many many
people in NYC. We have neighbors who run the gamut of incomes, from
stockbrokers and ad people to nannies and waiters and many have been
out of a job for over a year. So it is not just Rhizome that's
hurting, everybody in NYC has been hurting even before 9/11. The
attack just made matters worse.
I say go for it. And do yourself a favor and just start at $5 dollar.
Go as high as you want. Make different memberships, just like the
museums. You do not have to reinvent the wheel.
One special request --make sure your by-laws are accessible to
everyone and please post all financials just like the 501(c)
guidelines advice. Rhizome is already in the income bracket (over
250K) that calls for such posting of information to all users/members
of the organization. Also, I would love it if Rhizome opened its
board meeting to the membership.
Best,
Liza Sabater-Napier
Re: Membership fee?
i disagree. if we pay a fee it has to be all or nothing.
liza
>An annual fee is fine. I would be willing to pay up to say $15. But what
>about access to the Artbase? I think that should remain free. I think some
>of us who have work in the Artbase look at it as sort of a venue for our
>work. I for one get lot's of hits on my site from Rhizome and am concerned
>about what might happen if only paying members were allowed access to the
>Artbase. And yes, I think Raw should be free. I think it attracts a lot of
>curious people who just want to find out what the new media art scene is
>about or up to and I doubt that they're willing to pay for it.
>
liza
>An annual fee is fine. I would be willing to pay up to say $15. But what
>about access to the Artbase? I think that should remain free. I think some
>of us who have work in the Artbase look at it as sort of a venue for our
>work. I for one get lot's of hits on my site from Rhizome and am concerned
>about what might happen if only paying members were allowed access to the
>Artbase. And yes, I think Raw should be free. I think it attracts a lot of
>curious people who just want to find out what the new media art scene is
>about or up to and I doubt that they're willing to pay for it.
>
Re: sarcasm
Any given day,
:-+ = sarcasm with a raised eyebrow as in "Really, sweetie darling"
:-> = cutesy sarcasm
;-+ = wink wink sweetie darling
:-? = oh, fuck it!
btw: how many ^ are too many ;-)
Liza
:-+ = sarcasm with a raised eyebrow as in "Really, sweetie darling"
:-> = cutesy sarcasm
;-+ = wink wink sweetie darling
:-? = oh, fuck it!
btw: how many ^ are too many ;-)
Liza
Re: nytimes article on rhizome and commission launch
>free registration required so i've pasted below, but you should go
>to the site and look at the adverts.
>
why?
>to the site and look at the adverts.
>
why?