Liza Sabater
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Works in New York, Nebraska United States of America

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Re: the cyber-kitchen opened today!


Cheers Jessy!

I don't know why I like this project but I do --must the domestic
thing. There is something perverse about the whole thing --I
particularly love 'A sinking feeling'.

Best,
Liza

>'the cyber-kitchen' (http://www.the-cyber-kitchen.com) a collaborative
>net artists installation opened today, Tuesday 23rd July.
>
>Curated and created by UK independent net.artist Jess Loseby and run
>on a budget of 50p and a packet of crisps - the project reaches in to
>the corporate, impersonal space of the internet and quite literally drags
>you down into the dirty dishes...
>

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Re: the struggle continues


>So of
>course individual members of the bourgeoisie can
>appreciate art ( and often because of their
>educational privileges are well placed to do so) and
>can often make or sponsor great art.

Not even that my friend. These days the buzz word is 'Architecture'.
I even got that before the NY Times huge article about the Guggs
change of heart about art. Both the Gugg and Whitney seem to be
enamored these days about Architecture because, as I heard a 'super
donor' of the Whitney say during a Biennial party, "NetArt? Pst!
Architecture, honey. Real estate never goes down in value".

/Liza

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Re: re: that day


>The events of September
>11th were fearsomely beautiful which attracts everyones attention.

Yuck. Then again, is that what abject means?

>And
>apart from that, an understanding that a country that has unleashed terror
>where and when it suits had experienced something in return.

You know, what is so eery about this whole deal is the 'surgical
strike' quality of the event. There is just this big gaping hole not
quite in the middle of downtown.

>I'm not here to
>mourn for the dead. The dead are just the dead. It's the living I worry
>about.

Children have a very interesting survival mechanism. 'That' day' they
seemed to be even more joyful, more playful, hyper-kinetic bunnies in
the playground. My big one's vocabulary seemed to grow by leaps and
bounds that day as he struggled to find the words that could better
explain to him what he had just witnessed (we saw the second tower
collapse). He had no words for death and he still cannot understand
it because we did not see anybody die --we just saw a building
collapse under a cloud of smoke and fire. That is what is so eerie.

The deaths are not even mediated by the media --they were mediated by
the big slabs of concrete that came tumbling down. I don't know what
other people might think but everybody that found their way to our
rooftop, kept saying the same thing --the buildings are going. Not
'there are people dying by the thousands' but 'the buildings are
going'. That's what we were witnessing right at that moment. Some of
us wondered if people made it out but I don't think none of us even
thought that thousands of people would die because all we saw was the
buildings collapsing.

If aesthetics is the tool of ideology then their media is not just
the channels of communications but everything that has been
manufactured to support the image of the US as the new Rome. From
clothes, to cars to buildings. The question is, has 9/11 humanized
these symbols? I guess that is what Eryk set out to do with his piece
--to find an answer to that question.

Liza