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Re: Re: Re: dream7 piece
Using such references instantly declares an almost
> illustrational intellect,
> using ideas/notions handed down via educational
> protocol is not necessarily
> an imaginative thing to do. In fact, it works to
> show more what one has been
> informed of by other people, rather than what one
> carries as a creative
> entity; thus chinese whispers being regurtitated and
> displayed as art/design
> = information.
>
EXACTLY! it says: i am a good student, i've read mt
baudrillard---but does nothing really to make these
ideas concrete, to CONVINCE the user, to EMBODY the
ideas---the ideas float above the piece, and we're
supposed to quiver in awe at them, i suppose---
i would have respected the work more if it had veered
away from this---if it had instead given me some sort
of glimpse into what it's like to be a human being in
the 21st century...i don't want academic dogma...i
want human concerns...
bliss
l
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> illustrational intellect,
> using ideas/notions handed down via educational
> protocol is not necessarily
> an imaginative thing to do. In fact, it works to
> show more what one has been
> informed of by other people, rather than what one
> carries as a creative
> entity; thus chinese whispers being regurtitated and
> displayed as art/design
> = information.
>
EXACTLY! it says: i am a good student, i've read mt
baudrillard---but does nothing really to make these
ideas concrete, to CONVINCE the user, to EMBODY the
ideas---the ideas float above the piece, and we're
supposed to quiver in awe at them, i suppose---
i would have respected the work more if it had veered
away from this---if it had instead given me some sort
of glimpse into what it's like to be a human being in
the 21st century...i don't want academic dogma...i
want human concerns...
bliss
l
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Re: Re: Re: dream7 piece
>>
> oh but au contraire my friend, when it comes to what is considered
> netart these days, movies are all the rage. i am sorry, no offense
> intended to the the people behind dream7, fakeshop or even the
> grand
> daddy of the form, josh davis, but the problem with flash is that
> it
> has made everybody assume that what is happening on the screen is
> an
> extension of video or movies; when in truth, for most 'heavy
> hitters'
> it is an extension of painting, writing, adventures in bad coding
> and
> video games. but does most of the artworld know that? nope.
this, liz, is because there's a lot of bad flash out there!!!
and i think you're right---for me, it's all an extension of writing and music, not video////and normally i'm horridly bored by non-interactive movies on the net---WHY are they on the net? WHY are they not on film? are they using anything native to the netork? are they using anything native to the computer? these questions plague me when i come across noninteractive movies/////
and i love flash----it's so strange that among much of the net art community it's known as a "multimedia" tool, when actionscript is such a rich and strange scripting language///i think this is because, relatively, flash is still young....
bliss
l
> oh but au contraire my friend, when it comes to what is considered
> netart these days, movies are all the rage. i am sorry, no offense
> intended to the the people behind dream7, fakeshop or even the
> grand
> daddy of the form, josh davis, but the problem with flash is that
> it
> has made everybody assume that what is happening on the screen is
> an
> extension of video or movies; when in truth, for most 'heavy
> hitters'
> it is an extension of painting, writing, adventures in bad coding
> and
> video games. but does most of the artworld know that? nope.
this, liz, is because there's a lot of bad flash out there!!!
and i think you're right---for me, it's all an extension of writing and music, not video////and normally i'm horridly bored by non-interactive movies on the net---WHY are they on the net? WHY are they not on film? are they using anything native to the netork? are they using anything native to the computer? these questions plague me when i come across noninteractive movies/////
and i love flash----it's so strange that among much of the net art community it's known as a "multimedia" tool, when actionscript is such a rich and strange scripting language///i think this is because, relatively, flash is still young....
bliss
l
Re: Re: dream7 piece
>
> You've been reading too much Rhizome, Michael, don't let them fool
> you-
> dream7 and fakeshop *are* the "big hitters." :)
hierarchy!=heroic.
period
>
> -e.
>
>
>=-=-=-=-=-L
>
> You've been reading too much Rhizome, Michael, don't let them fool
> you-
> dream7 and fakeshop *are* the "big hitters." :)
hierarchy!=heroic.
period
>
> -e.
>
>
>=-=-=-=-=-L
>
Re: Re: dream7 piece
i hate to disagree here, but this piece is just okay---nothing fabulous----
it's a bit simple and predictable, and the flashwork---aggghh!! i'm not usually a big fan of overly-smooth cinematic flash, but this is like flash 101 when it comes to animation and code...and conceptually, it treads the same very tired track...
great discussion arising out of it, though...
bliss
l
> Yes it's a nice piece.
> I like the way that it feels net idiomatic but without
> recourse to having the viewer click for the sake of
> it.
> There is a kind of genre of
> noninteractive-"movies"-for-the-net which don't seem
> to have the kudos amongst the big hitters of things
> like pieces about surveillance cameras and the like
> and which hence feel a bit marginal, but which I find
> consistently exciting and interesting and which I
> suspect will turn out in the big scheme of things to
> have rather more importance than they are accorded
> now.
> The visuals in themselves are very satisfying
> -obviously thought and care went into them.
> I do wonder whether the Baudrillard text adds anything
> at all though- it feels like a belated nod to
> orthodoxy.
> best
> michael
>
> --- Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com> wrote:
> > http://www.dream7.com/bioready/
> >
> >
> > Some good work I haven't seen mentioned here, dream7
> > and fakeshop.
> >
> > -e.
> >
>
>
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it's a bit simple and predictable, and the flashwork---aggghh!! i'm not usually a big fan of overly-smooth cinematic flash, but this is like flash 101 when it comes to animation and code...and conceptually, it treads the same very tired track...
great discussion arising out of it, though...
bliss
l
> Yes it's a nice piece.
> I like the way that it feels net idiomatic but without
> recourse to having the viewer click for the sake of
> it.
> There is a kind of genre of
> noninteractive-"movies"-for-the-net which don't seem
> to have the kudos amongst the big hitters of things
> like pieces about surveillance cameras and the like
> and which hence feel a bit marginal, but which I find
> consistently exciting and interesting and which I
> suspect will turn out in the big scheme of things to
> have rather more importance than they are accorded
> now.
> The visuals in themselves are very satisfying
> -obviously thought and care went into them.
> I do wonder whether the Baudrillard text adds anything
> at all though- it feels like a belated nod to
> orthodoxy.
> best
> michael
>
> --- Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com> wrote:
> > http://www.dream7.com/bioready/
> >
> >
> > Some good work I haven't seen mentioned here, dream7
> > and fakeshop.
> >
> > -e.
> >
>
>
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Kentucky Fried Kant
To stare at a blank teal screen
as my palm pilot arms itself
against an insurgance of birds
is to revenge the outpouring inward
of quarks and fissures, a viscous
human thought, in which one can
slide one's fingers around at will,
especially fighting a sliver of hangover
over some crumbs of comfort. You
must have replaced the batteries in
the seasons, or bought an AC
and surge protector for them, because
they glow:
and this noon, just waking, a bit
fried with human thought, I'm
golden brown and crispy, orange
with suffocation, all the rage:
its quite popularly corroborative.
Overseas, soldiers shrink-wrap
this new and familiar war, stickerprice
for retail some dumb pride in
destruction. But I don't
feel like a liberator;
my categorical imperitive isn't
as iterative as a while loop
nested in shifts of conditional
branches. One could go white
with stolen art. So I crack
these shells, unscoop their
potential into a glass
of worcestshire or tabasco:
gulp down a pungeant slide
as trees tassle the sky, channel
the wind, over these hardened graves
of human thought.
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as my palm pilot arms itself
against an insurgance of birds
is to revenge the outpouring inward
of quarks and fissures, a viscous
human thought, in which one can
slide one's fingers around at will,
especially fighting a sliver of hangover
over some crumbs of comfort. You
must have replaced the batteries in
the seasons, or bought an AC
and surge protector for them, because
they glow:
and this noon, just waking, a bit
fried with human thought, I'm
golden brown and crispy, orange
with suffocation, all the rage:
its quite popularly corroborative.
Overseas, soldiers shrink-wrap
this new and familiar war, stickerprice
for retail some dumb pride in
destruction. But I don't
feel like a liberator;
my categorical imperitive isn't
as iterative as a while loop
nested in shifts of conditional
branches. One could go white
with stolen art. So I crack
these shells, unscoop their
potential into a glass
of worcestshire or tabasco:
gulp down a pungeant slide
as trees tassle the sky, channel
the wind, over these hardened graves
of human thought.
2003/05/08 12:53:57
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