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BIO
Joy Garnett is a painter based in New York. She appropriates news images from the Internet and re-invents them as paintings. Her subject is the apocalyptic-sublime landscape, as well as the digital image itself as cultural artifact in an increasingly technologized world. Her image research has resulted in online documentation projects, most notably The Bomb Project.
Notable past exhibitions include her recent solo shows at Winkleman Gallery, New York and at the National Academy of Sciences, Washington, DC; group exhibitions organized by the Whitney Museum of American Art, P.S.1/MoMA Contemporary Art Center, Artists Space, White Columns (New York), Kettle's Yard, Cambridge (UK), and De Witte Zaal, Ghent (Belgium). She shows with aeroplastics contemporary, Brussels, Belgium.
extended network >
homepage:
http://joygarnett.com
The Bomb Project
http://www.thebombproject.org
First Pulse Projects
http://firstpulseprojects.net
NEWSgrist - where spin is art
http://newsgrist.typepad.com/
Notable past exhibitions include her recent solo shows at Winkleman Gallery, New York and at the National Academy of Sciences, Washington, DC; group exhibitions organized by the Whitney Museum of American Art, P.S.1/MoMA Contemporary Art Center, Artists Space, White Columns (New York), Kettle's Yard, Cambridge (UK), and De Witte Zaal, Ghent (Belgium). She shows with aeroplastics contemporary, Brussels, Belgium.
extended network >
homepage:
http://joygarnett.com
The Bomb Project
http://www.thebombproject.org
First Pulse Projects
http://firstpulseprojects.net
NEWSgrist - where spin is art
http://newsgrist.typepad.com/
Re: Re: New Media Art in the New York Times
Dear Steven,
I think probably someone should respond to your beef; I didn't know what
it referred to so I did a Rhizome search and came up with the orginal
post from Feb. 1999--as you say, this is ancient history. Interesting to
read what we were thinking about then:
http://rhizome.org/thread.rhiz?thread61&text84
In any case, had it been me and not you who had written the article/s
referred to in this post, I would have been miffed too. Your point about
no one here having the publishing/editing experience to understand what
it takes is all too true.
In any case, I'm sorry you came across a post about your article only to
be insulted, especially when it was part of a wave of groundbreaking
pieces and publications in this area. It is truly horrible to come across
negative comments made without one's knowledge about one's work, when one
can no longer intervene and defend one's viewpoints. I have to say, it's
strange to realize that things typed into "the ether" pop up
years--decades--later, in another context or as a point of irritation to
others, the thread no longer viable, the trail no longer fresh.
You must realize this was and still is a relatively private, sequestered
list, without even an RSS feed, and in those days it was more so. It felt
more like we were all sitting in someone's backyard shooting dice and
eating Doritos. It was (and is) an un-selfconscious place, a back room
for blundering through arguments, sometimes badly, sometimes erupting into
flame wars and insults, sometimes dwindling into babble. And then there
are the intelligent exchanges; but always there is a lot of raw
information and ideas put out there haphazardly, usually with plenty of
attitude. Rarely are any of the loose ends tied. People come and go; there
is a hardcore. This would describe Raw.
The posturing and hubris you point out probably had more to do with our
relationships to one another at the time than to the articles being
dissed/discussed. The comments were made in all innocence, with no real
awareness they would ever be read by others, least of all by you and your
colleagues... just a small-ish group of artists and riffraff irreverently
hammering some thoughts out. Worse things have been said (but not
recorded) elsewhere I'm sure. Had you or the other writers been a part of
the hammering out, it would have been a very different game indeed. Maybe
there's still a chance for that, I mean in the future. Or unfortunately,
maybe not.
I don't know who else from that conversation is even still here on
Rhizome so I guess it fell to me to respond, or else to remain silent.
Once again, very very sorry.
--Joy
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:19:51 -0700
> From: Steven <smadoff@sprynet.com>
> To: list@rhizome.org
> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: New Media Art in the New York Times
>
> I've just happened on this post, which seems to do nothing but dump on what I
> wrote, as well as what the others wrote long ago on what was then a new
> subject. In fact, I wrote the first piece for the Times about art and new
> media (and rather than knowing nothing about new media as some people
> suggest, I was one of the early publishing people involved, working on the
> first publishing portal, Pathfinder at Time Inc., and then creating the
> content for the first cable modem service anywhere, Road Runner). So I take
> affront to the cheeky response, and to the ignorance of it. Since the
> respondents would not seem to have any knowledge of what it is like to
> introduce a brand new subject to a huge publishing organ like the Times (who
> didn't at the time know what "www" was), it's easy to throw stones. What
> there was room to include and what the focus could be were a matters of the
> editors' focus. At the time, the piece got a huge response from general
> readers who wanted to know more. !
> This is now ancient history. But happening on this round of snobbish,
> ignorant responses was too much to let pass for something that was
> groundbreaking at the time. It's always easier to criticize than to do.
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is open to non-members
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>
I think probably someone should respond to your beef; I didn't know what
it referred to so I did a Rhizome search and came up with the orginal
post from Feb. 1999--as you say, this is ancient history. Interesting to
read what we were thinking about then:
http://rhizome.org/thread.rhiz?thread61&text84
In any case, had it been me and not you who had written the article/s
referred to in this post, I would have been miffed too. Your point about
no one here having the publishing/editing experience to understand what
it takes is all too true.
In any case, I'm sorry you came across a post about your article only to
be insulted, especially when it was part of a wave of groundbreaking
pieces and publications in this area. It is truly horrible to come across
negative comments made without one's knowledge about one's work, when one
can no longer intervene and defend one's viewpoints. I have to say, it's
strange to realize that things typed into "the ether" pop up
years--decades--later, in another context or as a point of irritation to
others, the thread no longer viable, the trail no longer fresh.
You must realize this was and still is a relatively private, sequestered
list, without even an RSS feed, and in those days it was more so. It felt
more like we were all sitting in someone's backyard shooting dice and
eating Doritos. It was (and is) an un-selfconscious place, a back room
for blundering through arguments, sometimes badly, sometimes erupting into
flame wars and insults, sometimes dwindling into babble. And then there
are the intelligent exchanges; but always there is a lot of raw
information and ideas put out there haphazardly, usually with plenty of
attitude. Rarely are any of the loose ends tied. People come and go; there
is a hardcore. This would describe Raw.
The posturing and hubris you point out probably had more to do with our
relationships to one another at the time than to the articles being
dissed/discussed. The comments were made in all innocence, with no real
awareness they would ever be read by others, least of all by you and your
colleagues... just a small-ish group of artists and riffraff irreverently
hammering some thoughts out. Worse things have been said (but not
recorded) elsewhere I'm sure. Had you or the other writers been a part of
the hammering out, it would have been a very different game indeed. Maybe
there's still a chance for that, I mean in the future. Or unfortunately,
maybe not.
I don't know who else from that conversation is even still here on
Rhizome so I guess it fell to me to respond, or else to remain silent.
Once again, very very sorry.
--Joy
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:19:51 -0700
> From: Steven <smadoff@sprynet.com>
> To: list@rhizome.org
> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: New Media Art in the New York Times
>
> I've just happened on this post, which seems to do nothing but dump on what I
> wrote, as well as what the others wrote long ago on what was then a new
> subject. In fact, I wrote the first piece for the Times about art and new
> media (and rather than knowing nothing about new media as some people
> suggest, I was one of the early publishing people involved, working on the
> first publishing portal, Pathfinder at Time Inc., and then creating the
> content for the first cable modem service anywhere, Road Runner). So I take
> affront to the cheeky response, and to the ignorance of it. Since the
> respondents would not seem to have any knowledge of what it is like to
> introduce a brand new subject to a huge publishing organ like the Times (who
> didn't at the time know what "www" was), it's easy to throw stones. What
> there was room to include and what the focus could be were a matters of the
> editors' focus. At the time, the piece got a huge response from general
> readers who wanted to know more. !
> This is now ancient history. But happening on this round of snobbish,
> ignorant responses was too much to let pass for something that was
> groundbreaking at the time. It's always easier to criticize than to do.
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is open to non-members
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>
Re: Fwd: voting (fwd)
liza, I'm not sure--it's sort of hearsay but I've come to trust the
source, who's not the type to send out every spam she receives...
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, liza sabater wrote:
> Joy,
> Was this electronic voting?
>
>
> HEADS UP FOR CALIFORNIANS!
>
> You have the right to ask for a paper ballot AND REFUSE THE ELECTRONIC BOOTH.
> Problem? To encourage the use of electronic poll workers have been encourage
> NOT TO TELL VOTER THEY HAVE A CHOICE.
> http://www.paperorplastic2004.org/
>
> Blog it!
> Spread the word.
>
> Oh! And are you a VOTERGASM PATRIOT?
> I am ...
> http://www.culturekitchen.com/archives/002479.html
>
> Join the voting orgy
> www.votergasm.com
>
> / l i z a
>
> ps : have not ignored the thread I started ... just been busy tech'ing and
> blogging the elections.
> Check it out at www.culturekitchen.com
>
>
> On Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004, at 20:47 America/New_York, Joy Garnett wrote:
>
>>
>> this is , uh, rather creeepy:
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:58:15 -0400
>>
>>
>>> Here's an important heads up ...
>>
>>> Yesterday a friend voted early at a polling location in Austin. She
>>> voted
>>> straight Democratic. When she did the final check, lo and behold every
>>> vote
>>> was for the Democratic candidates except that it showed she had voted
>>> for
>>> Bush/Cheney for president/vice pres.
>>>
>>> She immediately got a poll official. On her vote, it was corrected.
>>> She called the Travis County Democratic headquarters. They took all her
>>> information, and told her that she wasn't the first to report a similar
>>> incident and that they are looking into it.
>>>
>>> So check before you leave the polling booth, and if anything is wrong,
>>> get
>>> it corrected immediately. Report any irregularities to your local
>>> Democratic
>>> headquarters.
>>>
>>> Make sure you pass this along to your friends ... hopefully this is
>>> all over
>>> the airwaves by tomorrow ...
>>>
>> +
>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
>> -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is open to non-members
>> +
>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
>> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>>
>
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is open to non-members
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>
source, who's not the type to send out every spam she receives...
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, liza sabater wrote:
> Joy,
> Was this electronic voting?
>
>
> HEADS UP FOR CALIFORNIANS!
>
> You have the right to ask for a paper ballot AND REFUSE THE ELECTRONIC BOOTH.
> Problem? To encourage the use of electronic poll workers have been encourage
> NOT TO TELL VOTER THEY HAVE A CHOICE.
> http://www.paperorplastic2004.org/
>
> Blog it!
> Spread the word.
>
> Oh! And are you a VOTERGASM PATRIOT?
> I am ...
> http://www.culturekitchen.com/archives/002479.html
>
> Join the voting orgy
> www.votergasm.com
>
> / l i z a
>
> ps : have not ignored the thread I started ... just been busy tech'ing and
> blogging the elections.
> Check it out at www.culturekitchen.com
>
>
> On Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004, at 20:47 America/New_York, Joy Garnett wrote:
>
>>
>> this is , uh, rather creeepy:
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:58:15 -0400
>>
>>
>>> Here's an important heads up ...
>>
>>> Yesterday a friend voted early at a polling location in Austin. She
>>> voted
>>> straight Democratic. When she did the final check, lo and behold every
>>> vote
>>> was for the Democratic candidates except that it showed she had voted
>>> for
>>> Bush/Cheney for president/vice pres.
>>>
>>> She immediately got a poll official. On her vote, it was corrected.
>>> She called the Travis County Democratic headquarters. They took all her
>>> information, and told her that she wasn't the first to report a similar
>>> incident and that they are looking into it.
>>>
>>> So check before you leave the polling booth, and if anything is wrong,
>>> get
>>> it corrected immediately. Report any irregularities to your local
>>> Democratic
>>> headquarters.
>>>
>>> Make sure you pass this along to your friends ... hopefully this is
>>> all over
>>> the airwaves by tomorrow ...
>>>
>> +
>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
>> -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is open to non-members
>> +
>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
>> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>>
>
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is open to non-members
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>
The Bomb Project: Recent events + releases
Fall 2004
The Bomb Project
http://www.thebombproject.org
Features: Exhibitions / Conferences / Projects / Publications
Contents:
- Conference at CUNY Graduate Center
- Shomei Tomatsu: Skin of the Nation - a retrospective at The japan
Society
- How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb: U2 Readies Four Versions of "Atomic
Bomb"
...............................
Conference:
The Second Nuclear Age
Nuclear Weapons, The New Terrorism, The Culture of Fear
Friday, Dec 3rd, 2004 9am - 6pm
CUNY Graduate Center
365 Fifth Avenue @ 34th Street
call to register: 212 817-8215
Cost: $25 ($15 fro students)
................................
Shomei Tomatsu: Skin of the Nation - a retrospective
The Japan Society
http://www.japansociety.org/events/current.cfm
333 East 47th Street
New York, NY thru Jan.2; travels to Washington, San Francisco +
Winterthur, Switzerland.
< shown:
"A Factory Near the Atomic Bomb Hypocenter, Nagasaki" (1961)
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/25/arts/design/25toma.html?oref=login&8hpib=&pagewanted=all&position=
Review (Oct 25, 2004) NYTimes:
"Silent Lament for a Japan Still Scarred by the War"
By Michael Kimmelman
http://www.firstpulseprojects.net/bombproject/shomei_tomatsu.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/25/arts/design/25toma.html?oref=login&8hpib=&pagewanted=all&position=
Fall Lecture series: November 9th, 6:30pm:
The A-Bomb & the Arts
Including Yuso Takezawa (Hiroshima Museum Contemp. Art),
Linda Hoagland and artists Makoto Aida and Ingo Gunther.
Moderator: Prof. John Whittier Treat (Yale)
Tickets:
http://www.japansociety.org/events/event_detail.cfm?id_event47834761&id_performance
The Bomb Project
http://www.thebombproject.org
Features: Exhibitions / Conferences / Projects / Publications
Contents:
- Conference at CUNY Graduate Center
- Shomei Tomatsu: Skin of the Nation - a retrospective at The japan
Society
- How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb: U2 Readies Four Versions of "Atomic
Bomb"
...............................
Conference:
The Second Nuclear Age
Nuclear Weapons, The New Terrorism, The Culture of Fear
Friday, Dec 3rd, 2004 9am - 6pm
CUNY Graduate Center
365 Fifth Avenue @ 34th Street
call to register: 212 817-8215
Cost: $25 ($15 fro students)
................................
Shomei Tomatsu: Skin of the Nation - a retrospective
The Japan Society
http://www.japansociety.org/events/current.cfm
333 East 47th Street
New York, NY thru Jan.2; travels to Washington, San Francisco +
Winterthur, Switzerland.
< shown:
"A Factory Near the Atomic Bomb Hypocenter, Nagasaki" (1961)
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/25/arts/design/25toma.html?oref=login&8hpib=&pagewanted=all&position=
Review (Oct 25, 2004) NYTimes:
"Silent Lament for a Japan Still Scarred by the War"
By Michael Kimmelman
http://www.firstpulseprojects.net/bombproject/shomei_tomatsu.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/25/arts/design/25toma.html?oref=login&8hpib=&pagewanted=all&position=
Fall Lecture series: November 9th, 6:30pm:
The A-Bomb & the Arts
Including Yuso Takezawa (Hiroshima Museum Contemp. Art),
Linda Hoagland and artists Makoto Aida and Ingo Gunther.
Moderator: Prof. John Whittier Treat (Yale)
Tickets:
http://www.japansociety.org/events/event_detail.cfm?id_event47834761&id_performance
The Info Terror Show (fwd)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:25:29 -0400
From: McKenzie Wark <mw35@nyu.edu>
To: mw35@nyu.edu
Subject: The Info Terror Show
Sorry for the mass-mailout. Please pass this on to anyone
who may be interested. All welcome. -- Ken
Lang College and the Design + Technology Program Present:
Playdate Seminar #3
2PM Wednesday 3rd November
Theresa Lang Student Center at 55 West 13th St, 2nd floor
food and beverages provided
The InfoTerror Show
Prof. James Der Derian
Against a multi-media backdrop supplied by the military-industrial-media-entertainment network, the convergence of technological and theological fundamentalisms is projected.
James Der Derian is Professor of Political Science at UMASS/Amherst and
Professor of International Studies (Research) at Brown University, where
he directs the Global Security Program and the InfoTechWarPeace Project
(www.infopeace.org). He has been a visiting scholar at the University of
Southern California, MIT, Harvard, Oxford, and the Institute for
Advanced Study at Princeton. He is author of On Diplomacy: A Genealogy
of Western Estrangement (1987) and Antidiplo
macy: Spies, Terror, Speed,
and War (1992); editor of International Theory: Critical Investigations
(1995) and The Virilio Reader (1998); and co-editor with Michael Shapiro
of International/Intertextual Relations: Postmodern Readings of World
Politics (1989). His articles on war, technology, and the media have
appeared in the New York Times, Nation, Washington Quarterly, and Wired.
His most recent book is Virtuous War: Mapping the
Military-Industrial-Media-Entertainment Network (2001).
McKenzie Wark ~~~~~~~A Hacker Manifesto
http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/WARHAC.html
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:25:29 -0400
From: McKenzie Wark <mw35@nyu.edu>
To: mw35@nyu.edu
Subject: The Info Terror Show
Sorry for the mass-mailout. Please pass this on to anyone
who may be interested. All welcome. -- Ken
Lang College and the Design + Technology Program Present:
Playdate Seminar #3
2PM Wednesday 3rd November
Theresa Lang Student Center at 55 West 13th St, 2nd floor
food and beverages provided
The InfoTerror Show
Prof. James Der Derian
Against a multi-media backdrop supplied by the military-industrial-media-entertainment network, the convergence of technological and theological fundamentalisms is projected.
James Der Derian is Professor of Political Science at UMASS/Amherst and
Professor of International Studies (Research) at Brown University, where
he directs the Global Security Program and the InfoTechWarPeace Project
(www.infopeace.org). He has been a visiting scholar at the University of
Southern California, MIT, Harvard, Oxford, and the Institute for
Advanced Study at Princeton. He is author of On Diplomacy: A Genealogy
of Western Estrangement (1987) and Antidiplo
macy: Spies, Terror, Speed,
and War (1992); editor of International Theory: Critical Investigations
(1995) and The Virilio Reader (1998); and co-editor with Michael Shapiro
of International/Intertextual Relations: Postmodern Readings of World
Politics (1989). His articles on war, technology, and the media have
appeared in the New York Times, Nation, Washington Quarterly, and Wired.
His most recent book is Virtuous War: Mapping the
Military-Industrial-Media-Entertainment Network (2001).
McKenzie Wark ~~~~~~~A Hacker Manifesto
http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/WARHAC.html
Fwd: voting (fwd)
this is , uh, rather creeepy:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:58:15 -0400
> Here's an important heads up ...
> Yesterday a friend voted early at a polling location in Austin. She
> voted
> straight Democratic. When she did the final check, lo and behold every
> vote
> was for the Democratic candidates except that it showed she had voted
> for
> Bush/Cheney for president/vice pres.
>
> She immediately got a poll official. On her vote, it was corrected.
> She called the Travis County Democratic headquarters. They took all her
> information, and told her that she wasn't the first to report a similar
> incident and that they are looking into it.
>
> So check before you leave the polling booth, and if anything is wrong,
> get
> it corrected immediately. Report any irregularities to your local
> Democratic
> headquarters.
>
> Make sure you pass this along to your friends ... hopefully this is
> all over
> the airwaves by tomorrow ...
>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:58:15 -0400
> Here's an important heads up ...
> Yesterday a friend voted early at a polling location in Austin. She
> voted
> straight Democratic. When she did the final check, lo and behold every
> vote
> was for the Democratic candidates except that it showed she had voted
> for
> Bush/Cheney for president/vice pres.
>
> She immediately got a poll official. On her vote, it was corrected.
> She called the Travis County Democratic headquarters. They took all her
> information, and told her that she wasn't the first to report a similar
> incident and that they are looking into it.
>
> So check before you leave the polling booth, and if anything is wrong,
> get
> it corrected immediately. Report any irregularities to your local
> Democratic
> headquarters.
>
> Make sure you pass this along to your friends ... hopefully this is
> all over
> the airwaves by tomorrow ...
>