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The McElroys are a husband and wife collaborative artist, technology, and business team who bring significant artistic, technology and community development skills to Corporate Performance Artists. Joseph, is a graduate of Computer Science from Duke University and a former team leader at IBM. He has been a CEO of several companies, and has been responsible for raising $2 million to fund a startup company called EveryDayPrint.com, which while part of the dot-com boom and bust, he managed to bring to profitability and which still survives to this day.
Donna was an operations manager and PR specialist in the firms they have started together. She has recently been credited by several business leaders in the Bronx as being "top spokesperson for the Bronx." She is active in many community development projects, such as participating on the Board of the Bruckner Arts and Antique District, and working to promote many Bronx activities through an online newsletter called Cupcake Kaleidoscope.
Joseph was the leader of the Open Source Sig for the New York Software Industry Association. And was track co-chair for Open Source at the 2001 New York Software Industry Summit. He was on the advisory board for PostgreSql, Inc - the leading Open Source Database and has had articles published by Lutris Technologies and Open Magazine on Open Source business models and technology solutions. He is a database expert with extensive Fortune 500 experience. Among other awards, he won an IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
From magazine "Open" issue September 2001 - "The McElroys kick open the doors of old business models and capitalize on what they believe." The McElroys have achieved re-known as Open Source visionaries with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine, and others. Joseph and Donna make no claims of divine insight, but in review by Lewis Lacock, it is said, "that this dynamic duo of art are the closest things we have to true shamans today". They are doing their best to pursue the knowledge to support such claims someday.
HIGHLIGHTS
* Achieved reputation as Open Source visionarys with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine among others.
* National Columnist on Money Matters for Gather.com.
* Judge for the Advanced Technical Categories of the Emmys.
* Successfully raised $2 million funding for startup.
* Successfully built and sold two technology businesses.
* First Entry into the Multimedia wing of the Museum of Computer Art.
* Artwork collected by the Library at Cornell University.
* Artwork in the collection of Rhizome.org.
* Developed first ever Exhibition Catalog completely on CD Rom. Done for Alternative Museum. Reviewed by New York Times.
* Selected to attend first ever Summer Institute for Performance Art at The Kitchen in NYC.
* IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
* Various academic, mathematic and scholarship awards. Attended Duke University on a full scholarship in mathematics.
* Poetry published in various journals. Art exhibited in museum shows.
* Certificate of Artistic Excellence from Congressman Jose Serrano.
* Recognized by Bronx Borough President Aldofo Carrion for contributions to the community.
Donna was an operations manager and PR specialist in the firms they have started together. She has recently been credited by several business leaders in the Bronx as being "top spokesperson for the Bronx." She is active in many community development projects, such as participating on the Board of the Bruckner Arts and Antique District, and working to promote many Bronx activities through an online newsletter called Cupcake Kaleidoscope.
Joseph was the leader of the Open Source Sig for the New York Software Industry Association. And was track co-chair for Open Source at the 2001 New York Software Industry Summit. He was on the advisory board for PostgreSql, Inc - the leading Open Source Database and has had articles published by Lutris Technologies and Open Magazine on Open Source business models and technology solutions. He is a database expert with extensive Fortune 500 experience. Among other awards, he won an IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
From magazine "Open" issue September 2001 - "The McElroys kick open the doors of old business models and capitalize on what they believe." The McElroys have achieved re-known as Open Source visionaries with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine, and others. Joseph and Donna make no claims of divine insight, but in review by Lewis Lacock, it is said, "that this dynamic duo of art are the closest things we have to true shamans today". They are doing their best to pursue the knowledge to support such claims someday.
HIGHLIGHTS
* Achieved reputation as Open Source visionarys with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine among others.
* National Columnist on Money Matters for Gather.com.
* Judge for the Advanced Technical Categories of the Emmys.
* Successfully raised $2 million funding for startup.
* Successfully built and sold two technology businesses.
* First Entry into the Multimedia wing of the Museum of Computer Art.
* Artwork collected by the Library at Cornell University.
* Artwork in the collection of Rhizome.org.
* Developed first ever Exhibition Catalog completely on CD Rom. Done for Alternative Museum. Reviewed by New York Times.
* Selected to attend first ever Summer Institute for Performance Art at The Kitchen in NYC.
* IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
* Various academic, mathematic and scholarship awards. Attended Duke University on a full scholarship in mathematics.
* Poetry published in various journals. Art exhibited in museum shows.
* Certificate of Artistic Excellence from Congressman Jose Serrano.
* Recognized by Bronx Borough President Aldofo Carrion for contributions to the community.
Re: Re: [thingist] cigarette break pt.2
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> Certainly: most of your responses are instinctual-reactionary
> or brain-circuitry standard responses.
Is it not also possible that someone who is aware (or to a degree - I am
finding new abilities so I assume that I have more to go) will use standard
responses as a method of testing/learning.
>
> Imagine it like a very grand piano including various impulses
> instead of notes. If consciousness is present, when you try to
> play the piano (I don't mean push buttons btw:), you interact
> with someone alive. When consciousness is absent, it's like
> one is playing on and listening to a badly tuned piano, and
> all one hears are the various mechanisms.. and no voice.
This implies that the entity is a static instrument and is making no attempts
to play your instrument. Two aware pianos could be playing different,
discordant tunes and only hear noise from each other.
> Hm, well consciousness is about being sincere. Reality is too
> complex for the simplistic concept most humans think of as 'honesty'.
> A lot--not saying you--give up the 'game' and settle for ungenuine,
> flat simplicity, usually ends up as identification with a set of
> impulses (brain) or (sexual). so some become 'intellectuals'..
> or 'don juans,' or say gourmet chefs. Etc. easiest +very common is when
> people get 'settled' and live a 'simply family life' and just give up.
I agree. I see and hear people of my acquaintance constantly trying to steer
me to the same bad decisions that they made for their lives, trapping me in the
same sad existence and justifying their lives all in one fell swoop. Thinking
they are doing it for my best interest. I have fallen into two of these traps
before and it has take tremendous efforts to escape them.
> How's that for 'fair'? :)
Close enough
--
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]
> Certainly: most of your responses are instinctual-reactionary
> or brain-circuitry standard responses.
Is it not also possible that someone who is aware (or to a degree - I am
finding new abilities so I assume that I have more to go) will use standard
responses as a method of testing/learning.
>
> Imagine it like a very grand piano including various impulses
> instead of notes. If consciousness is present, when you try to
> play the piano (I don't mean push buttons btw:), you interact
> with someone alive. When consciousness is absent, it's like
> one is playing on and listening to a badly tuned piano, and
> all one hears are the various mechanisms.. and no voice.
This implies that the entity is a static instrument and is making no attempts
to play your instrument. Two aware pianos could be playing different,
discordant tunes and only hear noise from each other.
> Hm, well consciousness is about being sincere. Reality is too
> complex for the simplistic concept most humans think of as 'honesty'.
> A lot--not saying you--give up the 'game' and settle for ungenuine,
> flat simplicity, usually ends up as identification with a set of
> impulses (brain) or (sexual). so some become 'intellectuals'..
> or 'don juans,' or say gourmet chefs. Etc. easiest +very common is when
> people get 'settled' and live a 'simply family life' and just give up.
I agree. I see and hear people of my acquaintance constantly trying to steer
me to the same bad decisions that they made for their lives, trapping me in the
same sad existence and justifying their lives all in one fell swoop. Thinking
they are doing it for my best interest. I have fallen into two of these traps
before and it has take tremendous efforts to escape them.
> How's that for 'fair'? :)
Close enough
--
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]
Re: [thingist] cigarette break pt.2
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> The only world Truman knows is the safe, mechanical and endlessly
> repeating world of Seahaven, where every morning neighbors give
> Truman the same greeting, evoking the same response from him "Good
> Morning! and oh if I dont see you later today Good Afternoon!
> Good Evening! And Goodnight!" Truman is thus the fool of the tarot
> who, uncritically believing
> in the reality of his impressions, becomes encased in false mannerisms,
postures, intonations and facial expressions (tzzt,
> wally wanker, joseph mcelroy). The silent omnipresent horror of the
> situation is that if Truman doesnt wake up to the lie of his life, hell
> die within that lie, never having truly experienced anything.
Good movie that. Since you mentioned my name, I assume you can point to
something that allows you to include me as one of the unwakened? Not that I
totally disagree with you, last year I realized the lie of my life and have
spent the year making it honest. It is quite easy to put on a personna and then
get trapped by the false personality. Its a head game, listen to voice in the
front and get trapped, listen to voice in the back and find honesty - only the
voice in the back is very hard to hear and the voice in the front is very
pursuasive.
Joseph
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> t h i n g i s t
> message by "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
> archive at http://bbs.thing.net
> info: send email to majordomo@bbs.thing.net
> and write "info thingist" in the message body
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> The only world Truman knows is the safe, mechanical and endlessly
> repeating world of Seahaven, where every morning neighbors give
> Truman the same greeting, evoking the same response from him "Good
> Morning! and oh if I dont see you later today Good Afternoon!
> Good Evening! And Goodnight!" Truman is thus the fool of the tarot
> who, uncritically believing
> in the reality of his impressions, becomes encased in false mannerisms,
postures, intonations and facial expressions (tzzt,
> wally wanker, joseph mcelroy). The silent omnipresent horror of the
> situation is that if Truman doesnt wake up to the lie of his life, hell
> die within that lie, never having truly experienced anything.
Good movie that. Since you mentioned my name, I assume you can point to
something that allows you to include me as one of the unwakened? Not that I
totally disagree with you, last year I realized the lie of my life and have
spent the year making it honest. It is quite easy to put on a personna and then
get trapped by the false personality. Its a head game, listen to voice in the
front and get trapped, listen to voice in the back and find honesty - only the
voice in the back is very hard to hear and the voice in the front is very
pursuasive.
Joseph
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> t h i n g i s t
> message by "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
> archive at http://bbs.thing.net
> info: send email to majordomo@bbs.thing.net
> and write "info thingist" in the message body
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Crooked rain crooked rain
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> You have no idea what I am talking about, Joseph-twit.
> >
> > Is that better than Joseph-san?
>
> Simply Superior.
How so?
>
> > A ha - a motive.
>
> Not at all.
Why not?
>
> > Have you concluded that there is only one way to look at yourself?
>
> Ne.
How come?
>
> > You seperate self and ego,
>
> I don't. They are two distinct realities, regardles of 'me'.
I see - not manufactured identities?
>
> > with ego being the person who will purposefully walk in front of cars on a
> busy city street,
>
> Not at all. I've implied nothing near that sort of thing.
So, is it ego or self that dares?
>
> > daring them to not
> > stop (someday they will not), where as the self is the person who knows
> whether
> > the cars will hit them or not and will walk as appropriate.
>
> As above. You're projecting your internal impulses again.
No, asking a question
>
> Your delusional interpretations of what I write are not even close
> to my intentions--and avoid dictating them to be what I said or wrote.
I didn't say that.
>
> Your opinion is not my intent.
nor yours mine.
--
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]
> You have no idea what I am talking about, Joseph-twit.
> >
> > Is that better than Joseph-san?
>
> Simply Superior.
How so?
>
> > A ha - a motive.
>
> Not at all.
Why not?
>
> > Have you concluded that there is only one way to look at yourself?
>
> Ne.
How come?
>
> > You seperate self and ego,
>
> I don't. They are two distinct realities, regardles of 'me'.
I see - not manufactured identities?
>
> > with ego being the person who will purposefully walk in front of cars on a
> busy city street,
>
> Not at all. I've implied nothing near that sort of thing.
So, is it ego or self that dares?
>
> > daring them to not
> > stop (someday they will not), where as the self is the person who knows
> whether
> > the cars will hit them or not and will walk as appropriate.
>
> As above. You're projecting your internal impulses again.
No, asking a question
>
> Your delusional interpretations of what I write are not even close
> to my intentions--and avoid dictating them to be what I said or wrote.
I didn't say that.
>
> Your opinion is not my intent.
nor yours mine.
--
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]
Re: Copyright: not for you.
And intellectual property laws are pretty misunderstood (or purposely ignored),
such that they are easily abrigated or worked around by commerse laws.
--
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]
such that they are easily abrigated or worked around by commerse laws.
--
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]
Re: cigarette break
Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com>:
>
>
> How cute, Kandinskij made a friend! :)
>
> -e.
Yes, and here I have been batting my eyelashes and wiggling my butt and along
comes this handsome stranger to steal him right from underneath my nose.
Jeez, dats the danks I get.
--
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]
>
>
> How cute, Kandinskij made a friend! :)
>
> -e.
Yes, and here I have been batting my eyelashes and wiggling my butt and along
comes this handsome stranger to steal him right from underneath my nose.
Jeez, dats the danks I get.
--
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]