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BIO
The McElroys are a husband and wife collaborative artist, technology, and business team who bring significant artistic, technology and community development skills to Corporate Performance Artists. Joseph, is a graduate of Computer Science from Duke University and a former team leader at IBM. He has been a CEO of several companies, and has been responsible for raising $2 million to fund a startup company called EveryDayPrint.com, which while part of the dot-com boom and bust, he managed to bring to profitability and which still survives to this day.
Donna was an operations manager and PR specialist in the firms they have started together. She has recently been credited by several business leaders in the Bronx as being "top spokesperson for the Bronx." She is active in many community development projects, such as participating on the Board of the Bruckner Arts and Antique District, and working to promote many Bronx activities through an online newsletter called Cupcake Kaleidoscope.
Joseph was the leader of the Open Source Sig for the New York Software Industry Association. And was track co-chair for Open Source at the 2001 New York Software Industry Summit. He was on the advisory board for PostgreSql, Inc - the leading Open Source Database and has had articles published by Lutris Technologies and Open Magazine on Open Source business models and technology solutions. He is a database expert with extensive Fortune 500 experience. Among other awards, he won an IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
From magazine "Open" issue September 2001 - "The McElroys kick open the doors of old business models and capitalize on what they believe." The McElroys have achieved re-known as Open Source visionaries with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine, and others. Joseph and Donna make no claims of divine insight, but in review by Lewis Lacock, it is said, "that this dynamic duo of art are the closest things we have to true shamans today". They are doing their best to pursue the knowledge to support such claims someday.
HIGHLIGHTS
* Achieved reputation as Open Source visionarys with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine among others.
* National Columnist on Money Matters for Gather.com.
* Judge for the Advanced Technical Categories of the Emmys.
* Successfully raised $2 million funding for startup.
* Successfully built and sold two technology businesses.
* First Entry into the Multimedia wing of the Museum of Computer Art.
* Artwork collected by the Library at Cornell University.
* Artwork in the collection of Rhizome.org.
* Developed first ever Exhibition Catalog completely on CD Rom. Done for Alternative Museum. Reviewed by New York Times.
* Selected to attend first ever Summer Institute for Performance Art at The Kitchen in NYC.
* IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
* Various academic, mathematic and scholarship awards. Attended Duke University on a full scholarship in mathematics.
* Poetry published in various journals. Art exhibited in museum shows.
* Certificate of Artistic Excellence from Congressman Jose Serrano.
* Recognized by Bronx Borough President Aldofo Carrion for contributions to the community.
Donna was an operations manager and PR specialist in the firms they have started together. She has recently been credited by several business leaders in the Bronx as being "top spokesperson for the Bronx." She is active in many community development projects, such as participating on the Board of the Bruckner Arts and Antique District, and working to promote many Bronx activities through an online newsletter called Cupcake Kaleidoscope.
Joseph was the leader of the Open Source Sig for the New York Software Industry Association. And was track co-chair for Open Source at the 2001 New York Software Industry Summit. He was on the advisory board for PostgreSql, Inc - the leading Open Source Database and has had articles published by Lutris Technologies and Open Magazine on Open Source business models and technology solutions. He is a database expert with extensive Fortune 500 experience. Among other awards, he won an IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
From magazine "Open" issue September 2001 - "The McElroys kick open the doors of old business models and capitalize on what they believe." The McElroys have achieved re-known as Open Source visionaries with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine, and others. Joseph and Donna make no claims of divine insight, but in review by Lewis Lacock, it is said, "that this dynamic duo of art are the closest things we have to true shamans today". They are doing their best to pursue the knowledge to support such claims someday.
HIGHLIGHTS
* Achieved reputation as Open Source visionarys with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine among others.
* National Columnist on Money Matters for Gather.com.
* Judge for the Advanced Technical Categories of the Emmys.
* Successfully raised $2 million funding for startup.
* Successfully built and sold two technology businesses.
* First Entry into the Multimedia wing of the Museum of Computer Art.
* Artwork collected by the Library at Cornell University.
* Artwork in the collection of Rhizome.org.
* Developed first ever Exhibition Catalog completely on CD Rom. Done for Alternative Museum. Reviewed by New York Times.
* Selected to attend first ever Summer Institute for Performance Art at The Kitchen in NYC.
* IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
* Various academic, mathematic and scholarship awards. Attended Duke University on a full scholarship in mathematics.
* Poetry published in various journals. Art exhibited in museum shows.
* Certificate of Artistic Excellence from Congressman Jose Serrano.
* Recognized by Bronx Borough President Aldofo Carrion for contributions to the community.
Re: Rhizome Raw Religions of the World Survey 2002
The hypocrite's hope shall perish" (Job 8:13).
I am interested in the nature of belief, and of what is believed. I think in
Hebrew, the word for hypocrite also means godless, so not to far from apropos
re atheism. I think atheist means a complete denial of the existence of a god,
and hope does not support denial. Thus what is expressed as belief is not
supported by action. I just can't see myself or any other person breathing
their last and not having that spark of hope (the most human thing there is).
I like the word agnostic with the definition...
a.One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God (or
Spiritual Center).
Though, I sometimes think that this is not correct either, as I feel it is not
the "knowing" but the "communicating" that produces the dogma of all the
religions that so obviously require "faith" and not intelligence to believe in.
So I search for "knowing" but not "communicating"
And if I ever get to "know" a god/great truth, I will cut off the hands of the
first person who writes down a word I say (just kidding).
Joseph
Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com>:
>
> Not at all. Hope is the most human thing there is; and any means of
> obtaining that is only natural. But I like to think that when one is
> about to die, they acknowledge that they are proud of the way they
> lived, so they can find peace more or less, regardless of whether they
> go up to a bright shiny city in the clouds, or some kind of afterlife.
> This is why humanism can accomplish more for the world than any religion
> can.
>
> I am terrified of airplanes, and I was on my way across the seas one
> time, and we hit some turbulence, and I was helpless and it dawned on me
> why people pray. I decided not to, as a test. I wrote a letter instead.
> And the plane landed safely. I have nothing against God or the idea of
> prayer- I just think it's a psychological device, especially because it
> comes up in situations like you bring mention- death beds, moments of
> despair, etc. I have nothing against it at all. But I'm not interested
> in psychological coping mechanisms personally. But what do I know? I'm
> just saying it's what I do. It has nothing to do with anyone else, I
> don't see why you'd even be interested.
>
> -e.
>
>
>
>
> joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
>
> >Its probably a delusion or a myopic knee-jerk reaction ;)
> >
> >BTW - question about humanistic aetheism...when you are about to die, and
> you
> >have a moment of hope that something comes after, will this be considered
> >hypocritical?
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Joseph
> >
> >Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com>:
> >
> >>I've answered emails from you since then. So I don't know why that idea
> >>is still in your head.
> >>
> >>-e.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>I'm supposed to be on your filter remove list.
> >>>
> >>>Joseph
> >>>
> >>>Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com>:
> >>>
> >>>>I am subscribed to Rhizome, (for some reason), so there is no need to
> >>>>cross post these dialogues to my own inbox.
> >>>>
> >>>>-e.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Now that really pissed you off didn't it? Sorry, don't want to hurt your
> >>>>>
> >>old
> >>
> >>>>>heart there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Joseph
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>The correct statement made with regards to what Joseph wrote
> >>>>>>was, that what you DISLIKE is the idea of an actual authority--
> >>>>>>which is precisely evident in your idiotic attempts to deny it,
> >>>>>>even though it is not sibject to your opinions, no matter how many
> >>>>>>emails you write and how much you stomp your feet--because in the
> >>>>>>PRESENCE of such you COULDN'T attempt to pass yourselves as what
> >>>>>>you are NOT: appropriating the work of exceptional men, while
> >>>>>>even lacking BASIC 'understanding' of what is involved, in order
> >>>>>>to stage your careers. That you associate authority with rigidity is a
> >>>>>>personal problem that I have nothing to do with--similarly with your
> >>>>>>idiotic psychopathic spineless slug behavior being passed on as
> >>>>>>'flexible'. Slime is flexible. Consciousness is not being slimy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>What is most sickening, is that you beat yourselves in the chests about
> >>>>>>your 'humanity' and with the same face rip, destroy and damage what is
> >>>>>>created by various beings as pathways for conscious development for
> >>>>>>humanity--and that it is PRECISELY THIS destruction and not some 'evil
> >>>>>>rulerz' that contributes to the most ENROMOUS degree to the continuous
> >>>>>>petrifaction, destruction, and grinding down of humanity (no, I am not
> >>>>>>saying this because 'I care'--because I don't, and to give you a slight
> >>>>>>clue--nobody really does). Your assumption that somebody out there
> >>>>>>
> >>'cares'
> >>
> >>>>>>is based on your facile drivel about 'luv' which hasn't got anything to
> >>>>>>
> >>do
> >>
> >>>>>>with LOVe at all, but is based alternately on immature pathos (paternal
> >>>>>>energy exchange and mirror-type identification via reproductive
> systems)
> >>>>>>or psychotic and monstrous brain obsessions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>So, observe yourselves as you really are--not as you'd LIKE to
> FANTASIZE
> >>>>>>that you are.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I'm not holding my breath about your taking responsibility for your
> >>>>>>idiocy, however.
> >>>>>>
> >
I am interested in the nature of belief, and of what is believed. I think in
Hebrew, the word for hypocrite also means godless, so not to far from apropos
re atheism. I think atheist means a complete denial of the existence of a god,
and hope does not support denial. Thus what is expressed as belief is not
supported by action. I just can't see myself or any other person breathing
their last and not having that spark of hope (the most human thing there is).
I like the word agnostic with the definition...
a.One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God (or
Spiritual Center).
Though, I sometimes think that this is not correct either, as I feel it is not
the "knowing" but the "communicating" that produces the dogma of all the
religions that so obviously require "faith" and not intelligence to believe in.
So I search for "knowing" but not "communicating"
And if I ever get to "know" a god/great truth, I will cut off the hands of the
first person who writes down a word I say (just kidding).
Joseph
Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com>:
>
> Not at all. Hope is the most human thing there is; and any means of
> obtaining that is only natural. But I like to think that when one is
> about to die, they acknowledge that they are proud of the way they
> lived, so they can find peace more or less, regardless of whether they
> go up to a bright shiny city in the clouds, or some kind of afterlife.
> This is why humanism can accomplish more for the world than any religion
> can.
>
> I am terrified of airplanes, and I was on my way across the seas one
> time, and we hit some turbulence, and I was helpless and it dawned on me
> why people pray. I decided not to, as a test. I wrote a letter instead.
> And the plane landed safely. I have nothing against God or the idea of
> prayer- I just think it's a psychological device, especially because it
> comes up in situations like you bring mention- death beds, moments of
> despair, etc. I have nothing against it at all. But I'm not interested
> in psychological coping mechanisms personally. But what do I know? I'm
> just saying it's what I do. It has nothing to do with anyone else, I
> don't see why you'd even be interested.
>
> -e.
>
>
>
>
> joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
>
> >Its probably a delusion or a myopic knee-jerk reaction ;)
> >
> >BTW - question about humanistic aetheism...when you are about to die, and
> you
> >have a moment of hope that something comes after, will this be considered
> >hypocritical?
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Joseph
> >
> >Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com>:
> >
> >>I've answered emails from you since then. So I don't know why that idea
> >>is still in your head.
> >>
> >>-e.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>I'm supposed to be on your filter remove list.
> >>>
> >>>Joseph
> >>>
> >>>Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com>:
> >>>
> >>>>I am subscribed to Rhizome, (for some reason), so there is no need to
> >>>>cross post these dialogues to my own inbox.
> >>>>
> >>>>-e.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Now that really pissed you off didn't it? Sorry, don't want to hurt your
> >>>>>
> >>old
> >>
> >>>>>heart there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Joseph
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>The correct statement made with regards to what Joseph wrote
> >>>>>>was, that what you DISLIKE is the idea of an actual authority--
> >>>>>>which is precisely evident in your idiotic attempts to deny it,
> >>>>>>even though it is not sibject to your opinions, no matter how many
> >>>>>>emails you write and how much you stomp your feet--because in the
> >>>>>>PRESENCE of such you COULDN'T attempt to pass yourselves as what
> >>>>>>you are NOT: appropriating the work of exceptional men, while
> >>>>>>even lacking BASIC 'understanding' of what is involved, in order
> >>>>>>to stage your careers. That you associate authority with rigidity is a
> >>>>>>personal problem that I have nothing to do with--similarly with your
> >>>>>>idiotic psychopathic spineless slug behavior being passed on as
> >>>>>>'flexible'. Slime is flexible. Consciousness is not being slimy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>What is most sickening, is that you beat yourselves in the chests about
> >>>>>>your 'humanity' and with the same face rip, destroy and damage what is
> >>>>>>created by various beings as pathways for conscious development for
> >>>>>>humanity--and that it is PRECISELY THIS destruction and not some 'evil
> >>>>>>rulerz' that contributes to the most ENROMOUS degree to the continuous
> >>>>>>petrifaction, destruction, and grinding down of humanity (no, I am not
> >>>>>>saying this because 'I care'--because I don't, and to give you a slight
> >>>>>>clue--nobody really does). Your assumption that somebody out there
> >>>>>>
> >>'cares'
> >>
> >>>>>>is based on your facile drivel about 'luv' which hasn't got anything to
> >>>>>>
> >>do
> >>
> >>>>>>with LOVe at all, but is based alternately on immature pathos (paternal
> >>>>>>energy exchange and mirror-type identification via reproductive
> systems)
> >>>>>>or psychotic and monstrous brain obsessions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>So, observe yourselves as you really are--not as you'd LIKE to
> FANTASIZE
> >>>>>>that you are.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I'm not holding my breath about your taking responsibility for your
> >>>>>>idiocy, however.
> >>>>>>
> >
Re: Membership fee?
Its time to talk about industry mergers. Forget the membership fees, very few
will pay. If you are about to fold, either fold, or start a capital campaign
to raise 7 figures. Fold or Bold.
joseph
Quoting Mark Tribe <mt@rhizome.org>:
> Hi Rhizomers:
>
> I am hoping to start a discussion here on Raw about Rhizome's financial
> situation and a possible solution. This email is rather long, but I'd
> appreciate it if you'd take the time to read it through, give it some
> thought, and let me know what you think.
>
> First, some background information. It will cost about $400,000 to operate
> Rhizome.org this year. Here's how we spend it: $6,000 on administrative
> fees (mostly processing credit card gifts); $122,000 on operating expenses
> (phone, rent, web hosting, office supplies, etc.); $177,000 on payroll
> costs (salaries, health insurance, payroll taxes, etc.); $93,000 on
> professional fees (writers, commissions, consultants, etc.). These numbers
> may seem high to some of you, but we actually run a very lean, efficient
> operation. It simply costs a lot of money to run a nonprofit organization
> that offers as many programs to as many people as we do.
>
> In the past, most of our revenue has come from foundations, but foundation
> support is shrinking. We had hoped to make up the difference through earned
> income from web hosting and online education, but those services are
> getting off to a slow start. We have also, as you surely know, tried asking
> for voluntary contributions. But so far this year only about 1% of our
> 19,000 members have made gifts.
>
> The Rhizome Board of Directors met for its quarterly meeting last Friday.
> The main topic was how to solve our financial problems. I proposed putting
> the organization into hibernation mode. This would entail shutting down the
> office, laying off the staff and discontinuing most of our programs. We
> would keep the web site up, ask the SuperUsers to continue to publish
> texts, and keep Raw online. But everything else would stop: no more Digest
> or Net Art News, no more commissions, no more events. We'd stop adding new
> projects to the ArtBase, stop improving the web site (we have a long list
> of bugs to fix and features to add) and stop planning new programs.
>
> The Board felt that hibernation would be a big mistake. Once we went into
> hibernation, they argued, it would be very hard to re-emerge and rebuild
> momentum. Foundations would lose confidence in us (not to mention the fact
> that we wouldn't have anyone to write the grants). Most important, our
> ability to fulfill our mission would be compromised.
>
> Then someone suggested charging a membership fee. This idea has been
> proposed before, and I have always opposed it. Rhizome is for everyone, I
> argued, not just for those who can afford it. I argued that we'd lose
> thousands of members and that our community would become less diverse.
>
> Then we looked at the numbers. The gap between our expenses and what we can
> raise from foundations, the government, earned income and other sources is
> about $100,000. That's about $5 per member. If every member gave $5,
> Rhizome would be financially stable. We could continue to grow and serve
> the community.
>
> The board argued that we pay to subscribe to magazines, to enter museums
> and to see performances. We pay to attend festivals and conferences. Why
> shouldn't we pay for Rhizome? Because it's online?
>
> Consider this hypothetical scenario. Let's say we introduced a
> sliding-scale membership fee starting at $11 per year with "thank you
> gifts" (T-shirts, etc.) at higher levels. By paying $11 a year (or more if
> you could afford it), you get access to everything: Raw, Rare, Digest, Net
> Art News, the Calendar, Opportunity Listings, ArtBase, Commissions, etc.
> Maybe we'd keep Raw free. Maybe we'd give new memebers a free trial period
> so they could check out the goods before they have to pay.
>
> Would you pay the fee?
>
> What do you think about the idea of a sliding-scale membership fee for
> Rhizome.org? Good idea? Bad idea?
>
> Do you think it would be better to go into hibernation?
>
> I am eagerly awaiting your responses.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mark
>
> + new media rugby
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
will pay. If you are about to fold, either fold, or start a capital campaign
to raise 7 figures. Fold or Bold.
joseph
Quoting Mark Tribe <mt@rhizome.org>:
> Hi Rhizomers:
>
> I am hoping to start a discussion here on Raw about Rhizome's financial
> situation and a possible solution. This email is rather long, but I'd
> appreciate it if you'd take the time to read it through, give it some
> thought, and let me know what you think.
>
> First, some background information. It will cost about $400,000 to operate
> Rhizome.org this year. Here's how we spend it: $6,000 on administrative
> fees (mostly processing credit card gifts); $122,000 on operating expenses
> (phone, rent, web hosting, office supplies, etc.); $177,000 on payroll
> costs (salaries, health insurance, payroll taxes, etc.); $93,000 on
> professional fees (writers, commissions, consultants, etc.). These numbers
> may seem high to some of you, but we actually run a very lean, efficient
> operation. It simply costs a lot of money to run a nonprofit organization
> that offers as many programs to as many people as we do.
>
> In the past, most of our revenue has come from foundations, but foundation
> support is shrinking. We had hoped to make up the difference through earned
> income from web hosting and online education, but those services are
> getting off to a slow start. We have also, as you surely know, tried asking
> for voluntary contributions. But so far this year only about 1% of our
> 19,000 members have made gifts.
>
> The Rhizome Board of Directors met for its quarterly meeting last Friday.
> The main topic was how to solve our financial problems. I proposed putting
> the organization into hibernation mode. This would entail shutting down the
> office, laying off the staff and discontinuing most of our programs. We
> would keep the web site up, ask the SuperUsers to continue to publish
> texts, and keep Raw online. But everything else would stop: no more Digest
> or Net Art News, no more commissions, no more events. We'd stop adding new
> projects to the ArtBase, stop improving the web site (we have a long list
> of bugs to fix and features to add) and stop planning new programs.
>
> The Board felt that hibernation would be a big mistake. Once we went into
> hibernation, they argued, it would be very hard to re-emerge and rebuild
> momentum. Foundations would lose confidence in us (not to mention the fact
> that we wouldn't have anyone to write the grants). Most important, our
> ability to fulfill our mission would be compromised.
>
> Then someone suggested charging a membership fee. This idea has been
> proposed before, and I have always opposed it. Rhizome is for everyone, I
> argued, not just for those who can afford it. I argued that we'd lose
> thousands of members and that our community would become less diverse.
>
> Then we looked at the numbers. The gap between our expenses and what we can
> raise from foundations, the government, earned income and other sources is
> about $100,000. That's about $5 per member. If every member gave $5,
> Rhizome would be financially stable. We could continue to grow and serve
> the community.
>
> The board argued that we pay to subscribe to magazines, to enter museums
> and to see performances. We pay to attend festivals and conferences. Why
> shouldn't we pay for Rhizome? Because it's online?
>
> Consider this hypothetical scenario. Let's say we introduced a
> sliding-scale membership fee starting at $11 per year with "thank you
> gifts" (T-shirts, etc.) at higher levels. By paying $11 a year (or more if
> you could afford it), you get access to everything: Raw, Rare, Digest, Net
> Art News, the Calendar, Opportunity Listings, ArtBase, Commissions, etc.
> Maybe we'd keep Raw free. Maybe we'd give new memebers a free trial period
> so they could check out the goods before they have to pay.
>
> Would you pay the fee?
>
> What do you think about the idea of a sliding-scale membership fee for
> Rhizome.org? Good idea? Bad idea?
>
> Do you think it would be better to go into hibernation?
>
> I am eagerly awaiting your responses.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mark
>
> + new media rugby
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
Re: [thingist] All you need is luv.
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
>
> > My heart is a cup and my body is a shoe, neither of which are perceived to
> > exist. If I don't know MY heart, whose could I know?
>
> Pointificating and meaningless.
> Your heart is asleep and you lack knowledge of it.
Why does a bird need to know mathematics?
joseph
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
>
> > My heart is a cup and my body is a shoe, neither of which are perceived to
> > exist. If I don't know MY heart, whose could I know?
>
> Pointificating and meaningless.
> Your heart is asleep and you lack knowledge of it.
Why does a bird need to know mathematics?
joseph
Re:
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> Your facile and facetuous defensive is impotent.
Who is attacking me?
Joseph
> Your facile and facetuous defensive is impotent.
Who is attacking me?
Joseph