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The McElroys are a husband and wife collaborative artist, technology, and business team who bring significant artistic, technology and community development skills to Corporate Performance Artists. Joseph, is a graduate of Computer Science from Duke University and a former team leader at IBM. He has been a CEO of several companies, and has been responsible for raising $2 million to fund a startup company called EveryDayPrint.com, which while part of the dot-com boom and bust, he managed to bring to profitability and which still survives to this day.
Donna was an operations manager and PR specialist in the firms they have started together. She has recently been credited by several business leaders in the Bronx as being "top spokesperson for the Bronx." She is active in many community development projects, such as participating on the Board of the Bruckner Arts and Antique District, and working to promote many Bronx activities through an online newsletter called Cupcake Kaleidoscope.
Joseph was the leader of the Open Source Sig for the New York Software Industry Association. And was track co-chair for Open Source at the 2001 New York Software Industry Summit. He was on the advisory board for PostgreSql, Inc - the leading Open Source Database and has had articles published by Lutris Technologies and Open Magazine on Open Source business models and technology solutions. He is a database expert with extensive Fortune 500 experience. Among other awards, he won an IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
From magazine "Open" issue September 2001 - "The McElroys kick open the doors of old business models and capitalize on what they believe." The McElroys have achieved re-known as Open Source visionaries with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine, and others. Joseph and Donna make no claims of divine insight, but in review by Lewis Lacock, it is said, "that this dynamic duo of art are the closest things we have to true shamans today". They are doing their best to pursue the knowledge to support such claims someday.
HIGHLIGHTS
* Achieved reputation as Open Source visionarys with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine among others.
* National Columnist on Money Matters for Gather.com.
* Judge for the Advanced Technical Categories of the Emmys.
* Successfully raised $2 million funding for startup.
* Successfully built and sold two technology businesses.
* First Entry into the Multimedia wing of the Museum of Computer Art.
* Artwork collected by the Library at Cornell University.
* Artwork in the collection of Rhizome.org.
* Developed first ever Exhibition Catalog completely on CD Rom. Done for Alternative Museum. Reviewed by New York Times.
* Selected to attend first ever Summer Institute for Performance Art at The Kitchen in NYC.
* IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
* Various academic, mathematic and scholarship awards. Attended Duke University on a full scholarship in mathematics.
* Poetry published in various journals. Art exhibited in museum shows.
* Certificate of Artistic Excellence from Congressman Jose Serrano.
* Recognized by Bronx Borough President Aldofo Carrion for contributions to the community.
Donna was an operations manager and PR specialist in the firms they have started together. She has recently been credited by several business leaders in the Bronx as being "top spokesperson for the Bronx." She is active in many community development projects, such as participating on the Board of the Bruckner Arts and Antique District, and working to promote many Bronx activities through an online newsletter called Cupcake Kaleidoscope.
Joseph was the leader of the Open Source Sig for the New York Software Industry Association. And was track co-chair for Open Source at the 2001 New York Software Industry Summit. He was on the advisory board for PostgreSql, Inc - the leading Open Source Database and has had articles published by Lutris Technologies and Open Magazine on Open Source business models and technology solutions. He is a database expert with extensive Fortune 500 experience. Among other awards, he won an IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
From magazine "Open" issue September 2001 - "The McElroys kick open the doors of old business models and capitalize on what they believe." The McElroys have achieved re-known as Open Source visionaries with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine, and others. Joseph and Donna make no claims of divine insight, but in review by Lewis Lacock, it is said, "that this dynamic duo of art are the closest things we have to true shamans today". They are doing their best to pursue the knowledge to support such claims someday.
HIGHLIGHTS
* Achieved reputation as Open Source visionarys with interviews by Interactive Week, Infoworld, Fortune Technology, Open magazine among others.
* National Columnist on Money Matters for Gather.com.
* Judge for the Advanced Technical Categories of the Emmys.
* Successfully raised $2 million funding for startup.
* Successfully built and sold two technology businesses.
* First Entry into the Multimedia wing of the Museum of Computer Art.
* Artwork collected by the Library at Cornell University.
* Artwork in the collection of Rhizome.org.
* Developed first ever Exhibition Catalog completely on CD Rom. Done for Alternative Museum. Reviewed by New York Times.
* Selected to attend first ever Summer Institute for Performance Art at The Kitchen in NYC.
* IBM Division Award for Technical Excellence.
* Various academic, mathematic and scholarship awards. Attended Duke University on a full scholarship in mathematics.
* Poetry published in various journals. Art exhibited in museum shows.
* Certificate of Artistic Excellence from Congressman Jose Serrano.
* Recognized by Bronx Borough President Aldofo Carrion for contributions to the community.
Re: [thingist] Joseph the Mountaian Sensei-Master
> "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
> My dad used to sing the "Tennessee Waltz" and "Rocky Top" until about the age > of 45, then he stopped. I was happy, I never liked his singing. Now I sort of > miss it.
>
> Anybody up for a beer?
>Any more meaningless drivel?
Life is suffering and we must accept that.
joseph
> My dad used to sing the "Tennessee Waltz" and "Rocky Top" until about the age > of 45, then he stopped. I was happy, I never liked his singing. Now I sort of > miss it.
>
> Anybody up for a beer?
>Any more meaningless drivel?
Life is suffering and we must accept that.
joseph
Re: legal matters
> The Law with regards to pitiful con-men of your sort
> is death. Not physical death mind you. Genetic, spiritual + soul
> death. Not only for you, but for anyone of your genetic line
> at any point of time.
Oh my gawd, he just cursed my entire family. I didn't teach the parrot to say
curses. Next he will be giving out fatahs.
Fear is a useful conversion technique is it not?
BTW - there does not exist a "no-longer subject to human nature BEING".
(Unless they were born on Mars or someplace else). Nor certain LAWS which are
inhuman. You are claiming these to establish yourself as a power, a purely
ego-based drive to establish identity. It is an old, sad song. And you keep
thinking that I am doing the same thing, justifying your conviction by
believing that I am trying to be a Shaman. I am not. Never said I was. People
who claim to be "a no-longer subject to human nature BEING" are asking others
to accept their authority based upon mysterious knowledge that only they and a
few have. It is pretty much bull shit.
I'm the white-gold wielder and you ain't getting in here.
Joseph
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
>
> > I'm a Shaman,
>
> You're not even remotely anywhere near being a shaman.
> You're a white middle class male who dabbles in 'sub-cultural'
> drivel and has shot himself in the foot putting himself
> to sleep.
>
> There is no shaman on this planet who extolls 'the human nature'.
>
> Becoming a shaman is an order of inhuman forces, and the subject
> becomes inhuman. On ORDER.
>
> Far from being pissed off at some drivel in your brain
> about following ORDERS (which I have no problem with, when they
> come from the appropriate source), your attempts at manipulating
> and attempting to control humans who are asleep, produce broken
> humans who cannot realize their own freedom. This I have a problem
> with, and (pissed off) is not it. Nor is it anything to do with
> 'personal human quirks'. It has to do with my commitment to
> certain Laws which are rather inhuman.
>
> Secondly, the non-following of orders is a very high-order degree
> of freedom to those FEW humans who are granted will. You are not one of
> them, and I_ am. Your piddling attempts to over-ride this haven't
> got anything to do with 'pissing off' 'game playing' 'shedding
> off constructed personas (which dont exist anyhow)', etc.
>
> Rather the opposite: again you illustrate exactly and clearly
> my priorly written about you observation: that you are a clueless
> moron who damages humans. Humans are not TOYS to be played with.
> Only those QUALIFIED to deal with the 'persona' which is in fact
> one of the aspects of the ego, should DO SO, as they KNOW what
> they are doing. Repeatedly you have attempted to DESTROY (in me
> and in others) PROPER CONSCIOUS IMPULSES and to pass it on as some
> childish 'free' shamanic play. This is MURDER and little else.
> It does not matter what you try to present it as.
>
> The full development of will is what allows a (shaman/buddhist/
> zen master/etc. no-longer subject to human nature BEING) to
> be what you claim yourself to be-- a free Self 'dancing'.
>
> You are not it. You're an asleep shithead who gets pushed
> around by any external force like a raggedy doll, and you fancy
> that your 'will'. To make matters even worse, you're extremely LAZY,
> and irresponsible + refusing to 'grow up' -- a bloated childish
> egotist who vampirizes the energy of others. Yor narcissism
> is revolting.
>
>
> > K is Buddha
>
>
> You're not capable to make observations of what I am.
>
> And I suggest that you read up on Shamanic law (and you DO
> have to read because yiu are NOT one and you do NOT possess
> any internal knowledge about it).
>
> The Law with regards to pitiful con-men of your sort
> is death. Not physical death mind you. Genetic, spiritual + soul
> death. Not only for you, but for anyone of your genetic line
> at any point of time.
>
> And really dearest. Pissing off and 'humanity* will not have anything to
> do with it.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
> is death. Not physical death mind you. Genetic, spiritual + soul
> death. Not only for you, but for anyone of your genetic line
> at any point of time.
Oh my gawd, he just cursed my entire family. I didn't teach the parrot to say
curses. Next he will be giving out fatahs.
Fear is a useful conversion technique is it not?
BTW - there does not exist a "no-longer subject to human nature BEING".
(Unless they were born on Mars or someplace else). Nor certain LAWS which are
inhuman. You are claiming these to establish yourself as a power, a purely
ego-based drive to establish identity. It is an old, sad song. And you keep
thinking that I am doing the same thing, justifying your conviction by
believing that I am trying to be a Shaman. I am not. Never said I was. People
who claim to be "a no-longer subject to human nature BEING" are asking others
to accept their authority based upon mysterious knowledge that only they and a
few have. It is pretty much bull shit.
I'm the white-gold wielder and you ain't getting in here.
Joseph
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
>
> > I'm a Shaman,
>
> You're not even remotely anywhere near being a shaman.
> You're a white middle class male who dabbles in 'sub-cultural'
> drivel and has shot himself in the foot putting himself
> to sleep.
>
> There is no shaman on this planet who extolls 'the human nature'.
>
> Becoming a shaman is an order of inhuman forces, and the subject
> becomes inhuman. On ORDER.
>
> Far from being pissed off at some drivel in your brain
> about following ORDERS (which I have no problem with, when they
> come from the appropriate source), your attempts at manipulating
> and attempting to control humans who are asleep, produce broken
> humans who cannot realize their own freedom. This I have a problem
> with, and (pissed off) is not it. Nor is it anything to do with
> 'personal human quirks'. It has to do with my commitment to
> certain Laws which are rather inhuman.
>
> Secondly, the non-following of orders is a very high-order degree
> of freedom to those FEW humans who are granted will. You are not one of
> them, and I_ am. Your piddling attempts to over-ride this haven't
> got anything to do with 'pissing off' 'game playing' 'shedding
> off constructed personas (which dont exist anyhow)', etc.
>
> Rather the opposite: again you illustrate exactly and clearly
> my priorly written about you observation: that you are a clueless
> moron who damages humans. Humans are not TOYS to be played with.
> Only those QUALIFIED to deal with the 'persona' which is in fact
> one of the aspects of the ego, should DO SO, as they KNOW what
> they are doing. Repeatedly you have attempted to DESTROY (in me
> and in others) PROPER CONSCIOUS IMPULSES and to pass it on as some
> childish 'free' shamanic play. This is MURDER and little else.
> It does not matter what you try to present it as.
>
> The full development of will is what allows a (shaman/buddhist/
> zen master/etc. no-longer subject to human nature BEING) to
> be what you claim yourself to be-- a free Self 'dancing'.
>
> You are not it. You're an asleep shithead who gets pushed
> around by any external force like a raggedy doll, and you fancy
> that your 'will'. To make matters even worse, you're extremely LAZY,
> and irresponsible + refusing to 'grow up' -- a bloated childish
> egotist who vampirizes the energy of others. Yor narcissism
> is revolting.
>
>
> > K is Buddha
>
>
> You're not capable to make observations of what I am.
>
> And I suggest that you read up on Shamanic law (and you DO
> have to read because yiu are NOT one and you do NOT possess
> any internal knowledge about it).
>
> The Law with regards to pitiful con-men of your sort
> is death. Not physical death mind you. Genetic, spiritual + soul
> death. Not only for you, but for anyone of your genetic line
> at any point of time.
>
> And really dearest. Pissing off and 'humanity* will not have anything to
> do with it.
>
> `, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
Re: Fw: RHIZOME RAW: TO PLAY THE PARROT
See I now have a pet parrot that thinks its an eagle. And it follows me
everywhere I go.
This is so much fun.
joseph
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
>
> > Only problem is that the parrot doesn't know it is a parrot.
> > It thinks it an eagle.
>
> You're talking about yourself Joseph baby.
> I am_ an eagle and I don't think.
> Hence you failed to feed.
>
> But no wait--this is not YET ANOTHEr attempt,
> this is your oh-so-contrived 'performance.'
>
> Asleep weakling baa.
everywhere I go.
This is so much fun.
joseph
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 joseph@electrichands.com wrote:
>
> > Only problem is that the parrot doesn't know it is a parrot.
> > It thinks it an eagle.
>
> You're talking about yourself Joseph baby.
> I am_ an eagle and I don't think.
> Hence you failed to feed.
>
> But no wait--this is not YET ANOTHEr attempt,
> this is your oh-so-contrived 'performance.'
>
> Asleep weakling baa.
Re: Get the joke, fool!
Quoting Vijay Pattisapu <disco@junglist.com>:
> Dear Joseph (and world),
> Sorry if you were offended; the joke was, you see, that I answered a
You didn't call me fat and stupid, so how could I be offended?
> frivolous remark seriously, thus shutting off your facetious excess. A JOKE!
> DON'T CONTINUE!
It never occurs to you that there might be a purpose? (See response to Eryk),
regardless, these are not bitch/cut-down sessions, there is something else
going on.
> I actually like you guys; I enjoy (sometimes) seeing you guys talk about
> 'art' etc., but don't make this list a generic post-it bitch/cut-down session
> like every other server's on the internet. Don't pretend to stab back at me
> with clever-sounding one-liners. You're right-- ain't no playground.
I didn't pretend, I did get back at you with a clever-sounding one-liner. It
got you to give me a little more content of your thinking now didn't it?
>
>
> Hey for all those interested--today is the anniversary of Rama killing
> Ravana...after ten days is the anniversary of when he returned to Ayodhya.
OK, tell me more.
Joseph
> Dear Joseph (and world),
> Sorry if you were offended; the joke was, you see, that I answered a
You didn't call me fat and stupid, so how could I be offended?
> frivolous remark seriously, thus shutting off your facetious excess. A JOKE!
> DON'T CONTINUE!
It never occurs to you that there might be a purpose? (See response to Eryk),
regardless, these are not bitch/cut-down sessions, there is something else
going on.
> I actually like you guys; I enjoy (sometimes) seeing you guys talk about
> 'art' etc., but don't make this list a generic post-it bitch/cut-down session
> like every other server's on the internet. Don't pretend to stab back at me
> with clever-sounding one-liners. You're right-- ain't no playground.
I didn't pretend, I did get back at you with a clever-sounding one-liner. It
got you to give me a little more content of your thinking now didn't it?
>
>
> Hey for all those interested--today is the anniversary of Rama killing
> Ravana...after ten days is the anniversary of when he returned to Ayodhya.
OK, tell me more.
Joseph