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Rhizome Raw: The Emperor Clothes


SINCE WHEN THE IRAQ CITIES OF AL QURNHAH OR BASRA ARE NORTH-AMERICAN T=
ERRITORY, FOR THE YANQUI TROOPS TO RAISE ALOFT THE UNION JACK IN THOSE CITI=
ES?
IN 1936, WHEN HITLER INVADED WARSAW, DID IT WITH THE ARGUMENT THAT POL=
OGNE WAS A MENACE FOR THE GERMANY TERRITORY. AND WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO A=
LL EUROPE AFTER THAT!
UNFORTUNATELY, HISTORY REPEATS THE SAME TRAGEDIES, OVER AND OVER...
SO, DON'T BE AFRAID TO SPEAK YOUR MIND, BECAUSE NOTWITHSTANDING HIS=
CYNISM, THE EMPEROR IS NOT WEARING ANY CLOTHES!

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Rhizome Raw: Primavera em Bagdade/Spring in Bagdad


It's spring in Bagdad
And all are hyms of gladness
From their minarets crying out
Prayers to God for one more day

E primavera em Bagdade
E tudo sao canticos de alegria
Dos seus minaretes elevando-se
Oracoes a Deus por mais um dia
E de manha comeca a faina
Dos homens no porto a trabalhar
E nas ruas abrem-se os bazares
De mercadorias a abarrotar
Essa terra de abundancia
Espraiada por tao belo vale
Mais parece um jardim do eden
Que nunca conheceu o mal
E os amores de um califa
Pela princesa Zubaida
Sao a historia de Xerazade
Mil e uma noites cantada
Por tristes amantes ao luar
As portas da cidade, nas suas pontes
Transportando as almas aos ceus
Como a agua cristalina das fontes
Brotando da terra por chafariz
Onde o estrangeiro ganharia animo
Para esquecer as coisas vis
Testemunhadas na viagem
Das caravanas pelo deserto
Tempestades que levantando-se
Varreram tudo o que estava certo
E acreditando, ali veria
Fraternidade, paz e amor
Nessa Bagdade ele sentiria
Fortes como ondas de calor
Nos dias de estio que voltariam
Assim o inferno recomecasse
Num vendaval de choros, gritos
Quando do pesadelo acordasse
Logo serenaria a sua alma
Pois estaria na doce Bagdade
No regaco da cidade calma
Onde os gritos que se ouvem
Sao das criancas brincando
A rir e a correr pelos jardins
Ou de dois velhos regateando
Por assunto sem importancia
No fim amigos separando-se
Esquecendo aquela magicancia
Ao apertarem as maos, combinando
Logo a noitinha se encontrarem
Para outra partida de xadres
E novas jogadas estudarem
Nao passando de estrategia
Duma guerra ainda a fingir
Peoes que no tabuleiro avancam
Ate o rei adversario cair
Na armadilha que o outro montou
Dando xeque-mate com alarido
Admirando-se o velho que a sorrir
Perderia sem ficar sentido
Porque tudo seria um jogo
Como os jovens no amor
Ficam tristes e logo se alegram
Depressa sarando a dor
Como as criancas a brincar
Se se zangam em disputas
Partem numa louca correria
Num apice esquecendo as lutas
Porque a vida em cada madrugada
E generosa nesta cidade
Acolhendo o estrangeiro com um beijo
Duma princesa na flor da idade
E primavera em Bagdade
E tudo sao canticos de alegria
Dos seus minaretes elevando-se
Oracoes a Deus por mais um dia.

Joao Pedro wrote this, in a sad day for all of us.
oliveirapereira1@sapo.pt

DISCUSSION

Rhizome Raw: The Voice of America


Talking heads on human rights
This is The Voice of America
Talking freedom to the world
Making sure the world is heard and
If the world don't choose our freedom
Well
They are going to get it anyway
This is a Nation
With a Mission
America
Listen to the Voice of America
Pray for change by peaceful means
We want it and we want by any means
America
So who will protect us from Our Protector?
America.

oliveirapereira1@sapo.pt

DISCUSSION

Re: Conference of Snakes in Azores


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ing cobra, a poisonous viper and a harmless watersnake..

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DISCUSSION

Re: wordgames for beginners II


Hi:

Poetry for me is the art to make new connections, unsuspected connection=
s that pre-exists in reality, but the social grid where we are trapped, don=
't let us see this potentialities, because the force of habit leads us to t=
he old same place. In our mind are a grid of concepts, that defines what a =
certain object means, what signified correspond to a certain significant. T=
hat's the structure of the recognized system of meaning: language frames th=
at's identity. Trough this frames, we see our world. Gadamer in "Hermeneuti=
cs" called this preconceptions, a preconceive reality that's only exists in=
our own minds. Now, poetry wrangles this connections between concepts: poe=
try don't accept the established relations between thought objects. In poet=
ry, the unforeseen is the rule. Un Coup de Des jamais n'abolira le hasard=
. The title of Stephane Mallarme, also the theme from a Man Ray film, r=
esume the work of the art: the unsuitable, the unseasonably and sudden tran=
sition from the preconceive idea, to a real image that happening like a rev=
elation of something, for the first time. A process where are playing two f=
actors: deconstruction and construction, construction and deconstruction, t=
he factors order are irrelevant. The accident suffered by The Large Glass o=
f Duchamp could be a good exemple of the unsuitable in art. After the accid=
ent, the fractures of the broken glass on Duchamp work, becoming parts of h=
er work in a natural way.

About war, in my manner of thinking, it's only a way to a economical end=
. The link between freedom and deconstruction it's broken in the logic of w=
ar! Also in war, there's destruction, not deconstruction. The last proposit=
ion it's not a simple game of words: destruction represents a dead tantaliz=
ation, deconstruction it's referent of dead as interstices voids of reality=
, like in a chess game, where the empty places of the board, allows to play=
and move the chess-pieces. So, dead have a positive side, when dead makes =
possible the transition, from one state of things to another. The process o=
f conscience work that way: you die to a thought, to live to a new thought.=
But the face of Occidental man, made by the totalitarian grid of the same,=
it's a face of dead. And the Occidental territory, have the resemblance of=
a desert! The desert grows, then, art need deconstruct the usual connectio=
ns, to interpret the signs of the power language. William Greider, the auth=
or of Who Will Tell the People, already had declared that we are in a pre-f=
ascist state. Deconstruction of the winners speech, it would be a task for =
a positive construction.
About Derrida, he speaks about a apocalyptic tone in Occidental Philosop=
hy. He said: the apocalypse will never comes. It's only a way of speech, a =
startling tone of voice assumed by the Occidental Philosophy. And through t=
he Philosophy History, there are a errantly thought that assumes many persp=
ectives, transversely, like a journey through time, but the journey never e=
nds. However, the apocalypse sustains to it self as the future that cannot =
be. In process, transversely, many things are living and are dying, and the=
apocalyptic end recognized by the fascist power, the total destruction and=
dead, it cannot happen. Because the accidents of the process, the tension =
relations between actuality and potentiality, immanent to the social grid, =
never will consent that! It will be a evolution, to where, we don't know! =
Future will arrive to us, in a shape of hallucinations, phantoms, mirages. =
For me, literature might catch this impressions, like signs from future to =
decipher them. So, the original face of humanity, it's much more what human=
ity can be, (on present, only inhuman potentialities), than humanity was in=
the past.

Joao Pedro
oliveirapereira1@sapo.pt

----- Original Message -----
From: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
To: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>; <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II

> Uhhhhh,poetry must make new,human face to people who are deeply in
> evel?Pedro?But,what are you think about Derida...etc.Isn't that most
urgent
> qvestion?War as a important issue desapired because,by the way,some Dys=
ke
> have a cop of tea with...Cage!(par lui meme).So,Vijay,"rhizome"is one of
> lightest fluxes.Chat on "rhizome"is vesting time.Have you made some mon=
ey
on
> "rhizome"?What do you expect?That somebody see and feel your respectable
> personality...They make joke on me,Marc(ask me why am I angre on
Atty).Isn't
> that so obviesly.His qvestion explaind all.People like Marc...etc.see o=
nly
> surface,my english.Unfortunetly thay dont see meening of their own
> language.Butheway PAROLE is what you wright,LANGUAGE is something you
> talk.There's no hard conection between them.Actualy I like your
> way,Vijay,but what's that meen in deconstruction world of
> "rhizome".Actualy,I like that you are reflex of East mind.I dont qvit f=
rom
> "rhizome"because there's allways stupid persons,worth to bee seen as a
> simtom(Wally Keller,Atty,...and so many other).In my counry,Serbia,I ha=
ve
no
> position.My last position is,paradoxaly,on "rhizome".Dont like
anybody,dont
> respect....dont care for .....I'm in superposition.I dont care for
"rhizom"!
> All best
> MANIK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
> To: <list@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
>
>
> > Hehe...no, I just meant that I didn't know how to reconcile that
statement
> with how I felt about art/etc. I think Joao put it well, though, that
poetry
> restores the human face to the world after the brutality of war, to "pi=
ck
up
> the pieces" in a way.
> >
> > I think that's what Christa Wolf achieved in _Cassandra_, anyway.
> >
> > Maybe I didn't understand your post...maybe you were making a joke? An
> insult? In which case I didn't mean to offend you in the first place...
> >
> >
> > -Vijay
> >
> >
> >
> > > "manik" <manik@ptt.yu> "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>,
> <list@rhizome.org> Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners IIDate: Thu,
20
> Feb 2003 09:30:54 +0100
> > >Reply-To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
> > >
> > >Did anyone ask you?
> > >MANIK
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
> > >To: <list@rhizome.org>; <manik@ptt.yu>
> > >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:48 AM
> > >Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> > >
> > >
> > >> Christa Wolf, I think it was, once said "How can there be poetry
after
> > >Auschwitz?"
> > >>
> > >> I still can't respond to that question.
> > >>
> > >> Vijay
> > >>
> > >> > "manik" <manik@ptt.yu> "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>,
> > ><list@rhizome.org> Re: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners IIDate:
Tue,
> 18
> > >Feb 2003 17:30:01 +0100
> > >> >Reply-To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>
> > >> >
> > >> >Take opportunity to made art,even aesthetic,in war time and use t=
hat
> > >> >production for self promotion is awful.But I'm artist.If I were
> > >> >capitalist,my work against war could bee named as capitalistic,ev=
en
> > >> >turbocapitalistic.So,Vijay,make love not art,or...something like
> > >that.Your
> > >> >carefully listener
> > >> >MANIK
> > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: "Vijay Pattisapu" <disco@junglist.com>
> > >> >To: <list@rhizome.org>
> > >> >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:46 PM
> > >> >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: wordgames for beginners II
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> part II:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> didn't mean that the anti/art/war posts were superficial
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I just meant that propaganda and war and leadership
> > >> >>
> > >> >> are artistic
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> even aesthetic
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The Japanese gave their warplanes names like "swooping crane"
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
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