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BIO
Jim Andrews does http://vispo.com . He is a poet-programmer and audio guy. His work explores the new media possibilities of poetry, and seeks to synthesize the poetical with other arts and media.
Of interest to Director Developers: Windows For Shockwave 3.0
I have developed a set of tools called Windows For Shockwave that may be of interest to people
who use Macromedia Director.
http://vispo.com/lingo/windows
ja
who use Macromedia Director.
http://vispo.com/lingo/windows
ja
Re: Quick and Dirty Perfection
> > > > In a culture of
> > > > convenience, 24/7 culture, it makes sense to produce information in the
> > > > exact amount of time it takes to consume it.
> >
>
> > But of course. And it would make sense to then extend the
> > principal to say that we should think about things
> > precisely as long as it takes to both produce and consume
> > them. This would be appropriate, wouldn't it, were
> > production time equal to 'consumption' time? Just a quick
> > and dirty thought.
>
>
> ... and, since there's infinitely _more to consume, then
> _production becomes a form of personal defense against the
> demanding onslaught? Publish or perish?
I don't know. You've been doing your project since 94, so there's more there, by now, than in
most projects. It hasn't exactly been a quickie. Or quickies for 8 years, twice a day. So it
must amount to a silent tracing of 8 years of your life, provide a sense of the interesting
things you've seen as well as a good sense of how you see them. A sense of the inner eye, sort
of like the inner voice. A cumulative thing as well as each moment.
I've been having problems accessing via ftp the last few times I've tried, though I've visited
several times in the past. Crash crash. I will have to snoop around in my news settings in my
mail client and see what's up.
How far back can one access your photo project. All the way back to 94? That would be a lot of
storage. 8 years x say 300 days/year x 60kb/day (a quick and dirty calculation) = 150Mb of data.
ja
> > > > convenience, 24/7 culture, it makes sense to produce information in the
> > > > exact amount of time it takes to consume it.
> >
>
> > But of course. And it would make sense to then extend the
> > principal to say that we should think about things
> > precisely as long as it takes to both produce and consume
> > them. This would be appropriate, wouldn't it, were
> > production time equal to 'consumption' time? Just a quick
> > and dirty thought.
>
>
> ... and, since there's infinitely _more to consume, then
> _production becomes a form of personal defense against the
> demanding onslaught? Publish or perish?
I don't know. You've been doing your project since 94, so there's more there, by now, than in
most projects. It hasn't exactly been a quickie. Or quickies for 8 years, twice a day. So it
must amount to a silent tracing of 8 years of your life, provide a sense of the interesting
things you've seen as well as a good sense of how you see them. A sense of the inner eye, sort
of like the inner voice. A cumulative thing as well as each moment.
I've been having problems accessing via ftp the last few times I've tried, though I've visited
several times in the past. Crash crash. I will have to snoop around in my news settings in my
mail client and see what's up.
How far back can one access your photo project. All the way back to 94? That would be a lot of
storage. 8 years x say 300 days/year x 60kb/day (a quick and dirty calculation) = 150Mb of data.
ja
Re: when Google has achieved the net art masterpiece, what are the artists to do?
Part of the problem is in seeing such a thing as a masterpiece of net.art.
We end up with 24/7 broadcasts of linux source code being perceived as interesting net.art via
this aesthetic also, do we not?
A data stream is not a work of art any more than the Mississipi is.
Very interesting writing, though, t.whid.
Arteroids and Nio etc cannot compete with 3D gamer stuff and so on as entertainment, but there
are those (and I'm one of them) who are rarely entertained by entertainment. I find art more
entertaining than entertainment, oddly enough. More 'fun'. We continue to think to continue.
Teams of programmers don't scare me. Art operates on mojo. You can even give the code away.
ja
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We end up with 24/7 broadcasts of linux source code being perceived as interesting net.art via
this aesthetic also, do we not?
A data stream is not a work of art any more than the Mississipi is.
Very interesting writing, though, t.whid.
Arteroids and Nio etc cannot compete with 3D gamer stuff and so on as entertainment, but there
are those (and I'm one of them) who are rarely entertained by entertainment. I find art more
entertaining than entertainment, oddly enough. More 'fun'. We continue to think to continue.
Teams of programmers don't scare me. Art operates on mojo. You can even give the code away.
ja
+ the internet is not your life.
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Re: Alan Sondheim + murder
Alan is a brilliant writer, one of the best anywhere, it seems to me, and it isn't in him to
mean anybody harm, Karei. I thought I'd say that because he is new to this list, although I'm
fairly new to it myself. He takes writing in exciting directions every day and he is very
sincere in his passion and love of ideas and art. And artistic freedom. So, please, let's allow
each other human dignity.
If we're really interested in art, his is an important voice to read and, yes, argue with, and
he's hard to argue with, no doubt about it, but he is serious about ideas and art, there are
none more serious and devoted, and that is important on these lists, to the vitality of them as
forums for discussion and testing of ideas in dialogue with those who actually give a damn. Alan
does.
ja
mean anybody harm, Karei. I thought I'd say that because he is new to this list, although I'm
fairly new to it myself. He takes writing in exciting directions every day and he is very
sincere in his passion and love of ideas and art. And artistic freedom. So, please, let's allow
each other human dignity.
If we're really interested in art, his is an important voice to read and, yes, argue with, and
he's hard to argue with, no doubt about it, but he is serious about ideas and art, there are
none more serious and devoted, and that is important on these lists, to the vitality of them as
forums for discussion and testing of ideas in dialogue with those who actually give a damn. Alan
does.
ja
Re: Quick and Dirty Perfection
> > In a culture of
> > convenience, 24/7 culture, it makes sense to produce information in the
> > exact amount of time it takes to consume it.
But of course. And it would make sense to then extend the principal to say that we should think
about things precisely as long as it takes to both produce and consume them. This would be
appropriate, wouldn't it, were production time equal to 'consumption' time? Just a quick and
dirty thought.
ja
> > convenience, 24/7 culture, it makes sense to produce information in the
> > exact amount of time it takes to consume it.
But of course. And it would make sense to then extend the principal to say that we should think
about things precisely as long as it takes to both produce and consume them. This would be
appropriate, wouldn't it, were production time equal to 'consumption' time? Just a quick and
dirty thought.
ja