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BIO
Jim Andrews does http://vispo.com . He is a poet-programmer and audio guy. His work explores the new media possibilities of poetry, and seeks to synthesize the poetical with other arts and media.
Re: strict chapters, spagetti poedry
There will be a few. There is so much talk. So many words. So many claims to
knowledge and poetry like it's up for grabs to salespeople in a popularity
contest. Not much you'd put your life on. Not often much at stake. But there
will be a few for whom it is all their lives, lifers. And it could be like
Kafka for them. Burn it, he said, much of it unpublished. But, no, I don't
fear for poetry. I said it can't be remade. Whatever it takes to put your
life on it, Justin. Not like Russian Roulette, but over the long haul.
They'd hardly recognize it.
ja
knowledge and poetry like it's up for grabs to salespeople in a popularity
contest. Not much you'd put your life on. Not often much at stake. But there
will be a few for whom it is all their lives, lifers. And it could be like
Kafka for them. Burn it, he said, much of it unpublished. But, no, I don't
fear for poetry. I said it can't be remade. Whatever it takes to put your
life on it, Justin. Not like Russian Roulette, but over the long haul.
They'd hardly recognize it.
ja
strict chapters, spagetti poedry
writing a machine
"a poem is a machine made out of words."
william carlos williams
spagetti poedry.
handler/method paragraphs.
"Remarkably, sequence, selection, and iteration are sufficient for
constructing any algorithm. If it is possible to construct an algorithm for
describing a particular process, then the algorithm can be constructed from
sequence, selection, and iteration alone."
OOP as in novel-length projects; a methodology for making a code project
manageable when it gets big. like chapters and paragraphs and so on, only um
strict. strict chapters. the 'do me strict' chapter.
but OOP is also for when it needs constant modification. like a methodology
for legislative systems? or an ongoing art form that is capable of
describing our experience. how do you update the novel form? people do it
all the time. but there comes a time when you just can't remake it anymore.
it wouldn't be what it is without its history, but the very history prevents
it from being recast into what you want to create next.
"Poetry can no longer be remade." (the lettrist Isou from the forties)
People will go on remaking poetry like they continue to paint watercolors.
It is a pleasant activity of the garden variety that harms no one. Let a
thousand dandelions bloom.
People are afraid of what they don't understand.
Art is, in part, what is made of unknowing.
fest of the bestive to all rhizomers!
ja
"a poem is a machine made out of words."
william carlos williams
spagetti poedry.
handler/method paragraphs.
"Remarkably, sequence, selection, and iteration are sufficient for
constructing any algorithm. If it is possible to construct an algorithm for
describing a particular process, then the algorithm can be constructed from
sequence, selection, and iteration alone."
OOP as in novel-length projects; a methodology for making a code project
manageable when it gets big. like chapters and paragraphs and so on, only um
strict. strict chapters. the 'do me strict' chapter.
but OOP is also for when it needs constant modification. like a methodology
for legislative systems? or an ongoing art form that is capable of
describing our experience. how do you update the novel form? people do it
all the time. but there comes a time when you just can't remake it anymore.
it wouldn't be what it is without its history, but the very history prevents
it from being recast into what you want to create next.
"Poetry can no longer be remade." (the lettrist Isou from the forties)
People will go on remaking poetry like they continue to paint watercolors.
It is a pleasant activity of the garden variety that harms no one. Let a
thousand dandelions bloom.
People are afraid of what they don't understand.
Art is, in part, what is made of unknowing.
fest of the bestive to all rhizomers!
ja
Re: Digital Culture Evening: Workshop with Cory Arcangel at New Museum
> < games are now a
> full-fledged part of adult life, situated as a
> shared public culture not unlike television. >
> Is this true? I don't say it in a confrontational
> spirit -I'm just curious. I actually don't know
> anybody (even my kids, late twenties, mid twenties and
> a teen) with any sustained & declared interest in
> games - though this could well be an index of my
> isolation!
> michael
hi michael,
i'm not all that hot about either television or games. but is there "a
shared public culture not unlike television" concerning games? game as show.
net as cable. did you see last night what happened to clone 5883 on
destructo middle east? no, i missed that...is it a tv show? it's a massively
parallel game. sounds political. yes, it is, in a sense. is it a computer
game? do you have maya? let's stop there. there are plug n play modules like
destructo western civ or destructo planet. i said let's stop there. care for
a game of poetroid? i'm warning you. just kidding. yeah sure you are; what's
the score? the score? game of maya. i meant the product. no ideas but in
products? i'm as much of a thinker as what you used to call a writer. i
believe that; and the underside is exposed; but sometimes it seems like all
underside. break on through to the other side, dude. do i get any points for
that? that isn't in the game. so it's not about just winning? there's
winning and losing; but which is which is confusing. can we quit this,
please? sure; could you please pass the potatoes?
ja
> full-fledged part of adult life, situated as a
> shared public culture not unlike television. >
> Is this true? I don't say it in a confrontational
> spirit -I'm just curious. I actually don't know
> anybody (even my kids, late twenties, mid twenties and
> a teen) with any sustained & declared interest in
> games - though this could well be an index of my
> isolation!
> michael
hi michael,
i'm not all that hot about either television or games. but is there "a
shared public culture not unlike television" concerning games? game as show.
net as cable. did you see last night what happened to clone 5883 on
destructo middle east? no, i missed that...is it a tv show? it's a massively
parallel game. sounds political. yes, it is, in a sense. is it a computer
game? do you have maya? let's stop there. there are plug n play modules like
destructo western civ or destructo planet. i said let's stop there. care for
a game of poetroid? i'm warning you. just kidding. yeah sure you are; what's
the score? the score? game of maya. i meant the product. no ideas but in
products? i'm as much of a thinker as what you used to call a writer. i
believe that; and the underside is exposed; but sometimes it seems like all
underside. break on through to the other side, dude. do i get any points for
that? that isn't in the game. so it's not about just winning? there's
winning and losing; but which is which is confusing. can we quit this,
please? sure; could you please pass the potatoes?
ja
rhizome raw not searchable?
i can't find a facility to search the archives of rhizome raw.
history please.
ja
history please.
ja
to a monitor near you
...........................BECAUSE ON THE INTERNET NO ONE CAN HEAR YOU
SCREAM!
Excuse me.
WHAT?
Actually they *can* hear you scream.
I BEG YOUR PARDON?
Yes, well, they have to have the plugin, but then, yeah, they can hear you
scream.
GET OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!
I'll bet you don't know how to boot people off. You're probably stuck with
me.
SOMEBODY GET THIS GUY OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!
Jeez, I hate it when this happens.
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SCREAM!
Excuse me.
WHAT?
Actually they *can* hear you scream.
I BEG YOUR PARDON?
Yes, well, they have to have the plugin, but then, yeah, they can hear you
scream.
GET OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!
I'll bet you don't know how to boot people off. You're probably stuck with
me.
SOMEBODY GET THIS GUY OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!
Jeez, I hate it when this happens.
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