Jim Andrews
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Works in Victoria Canada

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BIO
Jim Andrews does http://vispo.com . He is a poet-programmer and audio guy. His work explores the new media possibilities of poetry, and seeks to synthesize the poetical with other arts and media.
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DISCUSSION

learning language online


I would like to learn to read, write, and speak Portuguese. I am not
familiar with many online educational resources to this end. Please tell me
some good ones.

ja
http://vispo.com

DISCUSSION

e-motive: Visual Poetry in the Digital Age (U of Essex exhibition)


At the U of Essex in the UK, M.A. Gallery Studies students Laura Carnicero,
Lydia Gordon, Elina Leventaki and Caroline Sones are curating a show called
"e-motive: Visual Poetry in the Digital Age". The show features work by
Giselle Beiguelman (Sao Paulo), Ladislao Pablo Gyori (Buenos Aires), Eduardo
Kac (Chicago), Robert Kendall (New York), Maria Mencia (London), Ana Maria
Uribe (Buenos Aires), Brian Kim Stefans (Buffalo), Nico Vassilakis
(Seattle/New Jersey), and me (Vancouver/Victoria).

Here is some information on this exhibit:
http://wrt.ucr.edu/wordpress/2006/06/04/visual-poetry-exhibition-e-motive
http://www.e-motive.org.uk

Show dates and location:

15 June

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Re: namjune();paik()


A

Art is dead
but sneaks out for fun.

D

Art is invisible:
look at the paintings.

A

Art is dead.
Accept no substitutes.

D

A surd and scream;
black flower,
moon
sun
above.

A

Art is dead
except where strictly prohibited.

D

Art is invisible,
slips past the borders.

ja

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>
> the search for the "next thing" is a healthy process as long as
> it's not the only one.
>
> different disciplines have different hearts and follow different
> paths. maybe converging, but different.
>
> if you look at it from a certain (limited) point of view:
> painting is "old", sculpture is "old", music is "old". but is it true?
>
> if we answer yes, we're probabily filled up with too many
> concepts, too much in a hurry, too embedded in The Context.
>
> tools are tools. cost them 3dollars or a million. be them ancient
> or futuristic.
>
> i love art that is expression of its time. i also love classical
> art, but i Love that which is contemporary.
>
> but the "new" and the "contemporary" can be found in a violin
> just like it can be found in a neural network.
>
> salvatore [xDxD]
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DISCUSSION

Re: namjune();paik()


> > I was sitting at a presentation of a $9000 Synthesizer and as the
> > representative was talking about how elegant it was at
> > reproducing piano and violin sounds, I realized I would rather
> > have one of those early casiotone toy keyboards from the 80's
> > that sounded like trash. But I don't think the music people make
> > with them is trash at all, in fact, I think there's more value in
> > squeezing something out of a tool organically than there is in
> > picking and choosing which pre-built beautiful part
> > we'll use. I guess the same goes for visual stuff... it feels
> > more organic, to me, when we're using the tech equivilent of
> > scotch tape and aluminum foil to make something. I'm even sort of
> > afraid to start using php because I'm nostalgic for the
> > .html file extension. But that's probably a bit silly...
> >
> > That said, though, different tools for different purposes. I'm
> > rediscovering flash all over again now that I'm doing video work...
> >
> > -er.
>
> you use the word "organic" twice.
>
> to me, it feels like it doesn't matter whether you use the $9000 synth or
> the casiotone. if you're simply making music, you're not going to be
> creating anything deeply significant *as art*. you may create something
> "organic" but it will have so many antecedants that it is a different kind
> of reproduction though it may be nice to listen to and i hope people never
> stop doing it. i have the same feeling about simply writing poetry or
> novels, or simply making a film, or simply creating an image. all of these
> things have been done so deeply and exhaustively. and there *is* new
> territory elsewhere. and not simply in 'remix' but in deeper synthesis of
> arts and media.
>
> ja
> http://vispo.com

how unfortunate for you, jim. just tonight i found two web sites that house
some very beautiful music that doesn't really remind me of much other music.
specifically, Lauri Grohn's site at http://www.synestesia.fi and Michael
Gogin's work at http://www.ruccas.org/index.php?Michael%20Gogins . speaking
of 'reminding me of', i actually heard i think it was a pearl jam song today
where one of the lines of praise is something like 'it doesn't remind me of
anything.'

so, yes, live long enough and it all starts to sound the same, i suppose, so
perhaps you'll just have to surprise yourself with an ability to suspend
judgement?

we know many words but we do not tire of them in combination. a steady
stream of any word, though, will soon be annoying. perhaps we are asked to
see what the world is saying to us in the stream of art we experience.

it does seem that the notion of 'folk art' has been exponentially expanded
by digital media; everyone is famous for 15 Mb, and usually there are only
small parts of it that are in any sense distinct from quite a large number
of other folk's art. the tools of media production are ubiquitous. and of
course this is far preferable to a situation where the tools/means of
production are in the hands of a few. and there will be a whole lotta art. i
mean a *whole* lotta art. and one person's art will be another's data trash.

but if art is important to us, we find our way through it, in it, with it as
through the words of an incantation not heard as such but meaning all the
same what it is to write now, live now, where each history and time period
is in a next room.

best wishes,
ja
http://vispo.com

DISCUSSION

Re: namjune();paik()


> I was sitting at a presentation of a $9000 Synthesizer and as the
> representative was talking about how elegant it was at
> reproducing piano and violin sounds, I realized I would rather
> have one of those early casiotone toy keyboards from the 80's
> that sounded like trash. But I don't think the music people make
> with them is trash at all, in fact, I think there's more value in
> squeezing something out of a tool organically than there is in
> picking and choosing which pre-built beautiful part
> we'll use. I guess the same goes for visual stuff... it feels
> more organic, to me, when we're using the tech equivilent of
> scotch tape and aluminum foil to make something. I'm even sort of
> afraid to start using php because I'm nostalgic for the
> .html file extension. But that's probably a bit silly...
>
> That said, though, different tools for different purposes. I'm
> rediscovering flash all over again now that I'm doing video work...
>
> -er.

you use the word "organic" twice.

to me, it feels like it doesn't matter whether you use the $9000 synth or
the casiotone. if you're simply making music, you're not going to be
creating anything deeply significant *as art*. you may create something
"organic" but it will have so many antecedants that it is a different kind
of reproduction though it may be nice to listen to and i hope people never
stop doing it. i have the same feeling about simply writing poetry or
novels, or simply making a film, or simply creating an image. all of these
things have been done so deeply and exhaustively. and there *is* new
territory elsewhere. and not simply in 'remix' but in deeper synthesis of
arts and media.

ja
http://vispo.com