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BIO
Jess Loseby is a digital artist from the UK whose main medium is the internet. Her work ranges from small and intimate online installationsto large scale digital projections and video. In a relatively brief time, her work has become known internationally such as the ‘cyber-kitchen’ (lead artist and co-curator) and ‘the Digital Pocket’ (lead artist and co-curator), which is currently listed in the Whitney Artport. In August 2003, she became the first virtual artist in residence at Furtherfield.org (FurtherStudio) one of the first virtual artists residencies of its kind. She has exhibited in digital festivals such as the Split Film Festival, Pixxelpoint 2003, FILE 2003 and the Stuttgart Filmwinter. In 2003 she created interactive digital sets for the production of ‘The Dadaists’ at The Met Theater in Hollywood. Also in 2003 she was also awarded a grant from the Daniel Langlois Foundation, with the resulting work 'views from the ground floor...' being currently exhibited internationally.
Thematically, her projects continue her fascination with borderlands and ‘beautiful seams’ between the ubiquitous worlds of computing and the ‘real’ (domestic). A staunch opponent of new media's absorption with VR, her on and offline installations create flows and streams in the relational space of art and technology. Loseby’s unashamedly low-tech approach to new media build comparisons of the network and digitally (in its frustrations, attention to triviality and repetition) as absurdly compatible to the female domestic routine.
Jess Loseby has 3 children, 2 wheels, 1 husband and 0 days off.
Thematically, her projects continue her fascination with borderlands and ‘beautiful seams’ between the ubiquitous worlds of computing and the ‘real’ (domestic). A staunch opponent of new media's absorption with VR, her on and offline installations create flows and streams in the relational space of art and technology. Loseby’s unashamedly low-tech approach to new media build comparisons of the network and digitally (in its frustrations, attention to triviality and repetition) as absurdly compatible to the female domestic routine.
Jess Loseby has 3 children, 2 wheels, 1 husband and 0 days off.
Re: housewife
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>I'm a</b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">n
old</span><span style="font-size:10pt"> <b>housewife,</b></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">In </span><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>depend</b></span><span
style="font-size:6pt">ency,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>Upon</b> </span><span style="font-size:6pt">my
ch</span></font><font face="Arial" size=3><span style="font-size:12pt"><b>i</b></span></font><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:6pt">ldren,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>No longer</b> </span></font><font
face="Arial" size=1><span style="font-size:8pt">g</span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>rate</b></span></font><font
face="Arial" size=1><span style="font-size:8pt">ful,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size=1><span style="font-size:8pt">(</span></font><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt"><b>much </b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">too rare indeed),</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>of </b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">the
life I gave,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">for </span><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>selfish</b></span><span
style="font-size:6pt"> motives.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>M</b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">y
husband dep</span><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>en</b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">d</span><span
style="font-size:10pt"><b>s </b></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">U</span></font><font face="Arial" size=3><span
style="font-size:12pt"><b>p</b></span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">on relig</span><span
style="font-size:10pt"><b>ious</b></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">chastity</span><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>
new</b> </span><span style="font-size:6pt">found; </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">As I become A </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">(N</span></font><font face="Arial" size=3><span
style="font-size:12pt"><b>o</b></span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">t the) </span><span
style="font-size:10pt"><b>de</b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">voted nun</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> I'm an old housewife,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> In dependency,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> Upon my children,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> No longer grateful,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> (much too rare
indeed),</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> of the life I
gave,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> for selfish motives.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> My husband depends </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> Upon religious</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> chastity new
found; </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> As I become A </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> (Not the) devoted
nun. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> joseph (cor e
form art) + (porat per ance ist) </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> frank + lyn -
mc + El + roy</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> go shopping ->
http://www.electrichands.com/shopindex.htm</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> call me 646 279
2309</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> + be me</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> -> post: list@rhizome.org</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>I'm a</b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">n
old</span><span style="font-size:10pt"> <b>housewife,</b></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">In </span><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>depend</b></span><span
style="font-size:6pt">ency,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>Upon</b> </span><span style="font-size:6pt">my
ch</span></font><font face="Arial" size=3><span style="font-size:12pt"><b>i</b></span></font><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:6pt">ldren,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>No longer</b> </span></font><font
face="Arial" size=1><span style="font-size:8pt">g</span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>rate</b></span></font><font
face="Arial" size=1><span style="font-size:8pt">ful,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size=1><span style="font-size:8pt">(</span></font><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt"><b>much </b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">too rare indeed),</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>of </b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">the
life I gave,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">for </span><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>selfish</b></span><span
style="font-size:6pt"> motives.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>M</b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">y
husband dep</span><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>en</b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">d</span><span
style="font-size:10pt"><b>s </b></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">U</span></font><font face="Arial" size=3><span
style="font-size:12pt"><b>p</b></span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">on relig</span><span
style="font-size:10pt"><b>ious</b></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">chastity</span><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>
new</b> </span><span style="font-size:6pt">found; </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">As I become A </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">(N</span></font><font face="Arial" size=3><span
style="font-size:12pt"><b>o</b></span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:6pt">t the) </span><span
style="font-size:10pt"><b>de</b></span><span style="font-size:6pt">voted nun</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> I'm an old housewife,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> In dependency,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> Upon my children,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> No longer grateful,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> (much too rare
indeed),</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> of the life I
gave,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> for selfish motives.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> My husband depends </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> Upon religious</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> chastity new
found; </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> As I become A </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> (Not the) devoted
nun. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> joseph (cor e
form art) + (porat per ance ist) </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> frank + lyn -
mc + El + roy</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> go shopping ->
http://www.electrichands.com/shopindex.htm</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> call me 646 279
2309</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> + be me</span></font></div>
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Re: housewife
I'm an old housewife,
In dependency,
Upon my children,
No longer grateful,
(much too rare indeed),
of the life I gave,
for selfish motives.
My husband depends
Upon religious
chastity new found;
As I become A
(Not the) devoted nun.
sorry joseph but what are you on...?
> I'm an old housewife,
> In dependency,
> Upon my children,
> No longer grateful,
> (much too rare indeed),
> of the life I gave,
> for selfish motives.
> My husband depends
> Upon religious
> chastity new found;
> As I become A
> (Not the) devoted nun.
>
> joseph (cor e form art) + (porat per ance ist)
> frank + lyn - mc + El + roy
>
> go shopping -> http://www.electrichands.com/shopindex.htm
> call me 646 279 2309
> + be me
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
o
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][
In dependency,
Upon my children,
No longer grateful,
(much too rare indeed),
of the life I gave,
for selfish motives.
My husband depends
Upon religious
chastity new found;
As I become A
(Not the) devoted nun.
sorry joseph but what are you on...?
> I'm an old housewife,
> In dependency,
> Upon my children,
> No longer grateful,
> (much too rare indeed),
> of the life I gave,
> for selfish motives.
> My husband depends
> Upon religious
> chastity new found;
> As I become A
> (Not the) devoted nun.
>
> joseph (cor e form art) + (porat per ance ist)
> frank + lyn - mc + El + roy
>
> go shopping -> http://www.electrichands.com/shopindex.htm
> call me 646 279 2309
> + be me
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
o
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Re: Re: Charity CD Project
That would be great Kate, although I don't know what being 'in' means
yet. It was just an idea I suggested but I still can't work out what stage
the ideas are and if it consistent with what was be proposed before.
I think it could work, and I have a domain I could 'donate' (nowhere.tv) if
people wanted to give it a go but (as I said to michael) I can't work out
where the conversation is at...
jess.
> Sounds like a great idea Jess. Count Patrick and I in!
>
> Or how about members doing conceptual 'remixes' of other member's work.
>
> love
> Kate
>
>
>
>
> Jess Loseby11/5/02 18:46jess@rssgallery.com
>
> > Hi,
> > not sure how long this thread has been ongoing as I have been AWOL
> > recently... I am guessing from this that you are suggesting a CD with
> > various collborative works (visual/audio) from rhizome members?
> >
> > If I have got the right end of what you are suggesting Why not put the
> > work on a someones site starting off with 'donated' static images/
> > text/sound files .. as open pieces which can be ripped by everybody
> > participating. People can then freely work the material to create
> > something individual which are uploaded again as open files/source
> > These can then taken again and added to, manipulated etc At the end
> > of a specified time limit you should (in theory ha!ha!) a number of
> > collaborative works in various forms and stages. From static to full
> > blown ...er, whatever. Obviously someone would have to bottom line it
> > but if no-one is willing to open their ftp up to everyone we can get a $0
> > site for $30 and hopefully the work created for the CD will be worth a lot
> > more than that....
> > My advice would also be that the works should be anonymous until
> > finished. That way (although pieces might be identifiable by the feel or
> > technology used) you would have a really cross-list involvement rather
> > than people who might naturally choose to work together collaborating.
> >
> > If I have got the idea messed up, apologies for not being on the case...
> > jess.
> >
> >
o
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yet. It was just an idea I suggested but I still can't work out what stage
the ideas are and if it consistent with what was be proposed before.
I think it could work, and I have a domain I could 'donate' (nowhere.tv) if
people wanted to give it a go but (as I said to michael) I can't work out
where the conversation is at...
jess.
> Sounds like a great idea Jess. Count Patrick and I in!
>
> Or how about members doing conceptual 'remixes' of other member's work.
>
> love
> Kate
>
>
>
>
> Jess Loseby11/5/02 18:46jess@rssgallery.com
>
> > Hi,
> > not sure how long this thread has been ongoing as I have been AWOL
> > recently... I am guessing from this that you are suggesting a CD with
> > various collborative works (visual/audio) from rhizome members?
> >
> > If I have got the right end of what you are suggesting Why not put the
> > work on a someones site starting off with 'donated' static images/
> > text/sound files .. as open pieces which can be ripped by everybody
> > participating. People can then freely work the material to create
> > something individual which are uploaded again as open files/source
> > These can then taken again and added to, manipulated etc At the end
> > of a specified time limit you should (in theory ha!ha!) a number of
> > collaborative works in various forms and stages. From static to full
> > blown ...er, whatever. Obviously someone would have to bottom line it
> > but if no-one is willing to open their ftp up to everyone we can get a $0
> > site for $30 and hopefully the work created for the CD will be worth a lot
> > more than that....
> > My advice would also be that the works should be anonymous until
> > finished. That way (although pieces might be identifiable by the feel or
> > technology used) you would have a really cross-list involvement rather
> > than people who might naturally choose to work together collaborating.
> >
> > If I have got the idea messed up, apologies for not being on the case...
> > jess.
> >
> >
o
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Re: Re: Charity CD Project
> so Jess would you be up for being on t'committee?
Michael,
I happy to but I still can't seem to get a handle on what you guys are
proposing....
MT's email confused me too are rhizome up for this or not?
If you want to do the collaborative file/share idea I have a domain
doing bugger all (nowhere.tv) that I would be happy to 'donate'. I can
give the ftp details out to anyone who fancies...
jess. o
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Michael,
I happy to but I still can't seem to get a handle on what you guys are
proposing....
MT's email confused me too are rhizome up for this or not?
If you want to do the collaborative file/share idea I have a domain
doing bugger all (nowhere.tv) that I would be happy to 'donate'. I can
give the ftp details out to anyone who fancies...
jess. o
/^ rssgallery.com
][
Re: Re: Charity CD Project
Hi,
not sure how long this thread has been ongoing as I have been AWOL
recently... I am guessing from this that you are suggesting a CD with
various collborative works (visual/audio) from rhizome members?
If I have got the right end of what you are suggesting Why not put the
work on a someones site starting off with 'donated' static images/
text/sound files .. as open pieces which can be ripped by everybody
participating. People can then freely work the material to create
something individual which are uploaded again as open files/source
These can then taken again and added to, manipulated etc At the end
of a specified time limit you should (in theory ha!ha!) a number of
collaborative works in various forms and stages. From static to full
blown ...er, whatever. Obviously someone would have to bottom line it
but if no-one is willing to open their ftp up to everyone we can get a $0
site for $30 and hopefully the work created for the CD will be worth a lot
more than that....
My advice would also be that the works should be anonymous until
finished. That way (although pieces might be identifiable by the feel or
technology used) you would have a really cross-list involvement rather
than people who might naturally choose to work together collaborating.
If I have got the idea messed up, apologies for not being on the case...
jess.
>
>
> <How about each peice use as input, output from
> another piece on the CD? >
> I think this is a great idea -we are talking artowrks
> rather that audio CD here right?
> Why not an immediate call for participants on the
> list.
> (maybe with specific mails to people it would be good
> to target)
> Then someone ( lee, joseph?) decides an order of play.
> It's made clear that these things need to be made to a
> shortish deadline
> The first work is created and mailed or a link is sent
> to the next artist, and so on.
> The disadvantage here is that even if each artists
> make a piece in a week we're still talking 20 weeks
> so....
> ...to make it quicker I suggest the original work is
> mailed to two artists and so on - or even maybe the
> 'order of play' could be Rhizome like.
> The thing i really like about this format is that it
> feels very collective- it would also be great to have
> artists who have engaged in fairly fierce polemic on
> the list united in common cause -how about Grancher
> remixes Cloninger or vice versa &c.( maybe this is a
> bit unlikely but you get the point!)
> anyway thats my two penny worth.
> best
> michael
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > joseph (cor e form art) + (porat per ance ist)
> > frank + lyn - mc + El + roy
> >
> > go shopping ->
> > http://www.electrichands.com/shopindex.htm
> > call me 646 279 2309
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Lee Wells <leewells@bb19.net>:
> >
> > > Hello all
> > >
> > > Should we decide upon a theme?
> > > What are the primary social topics discussed on
> > Rhizome?
> > > First thing to come to mind for me was, kNOwwWARe.
> > > All just a play on words, sounds, images.
> > > I think it should make people laugh. People need
> > to laugh more.
> > > How can we make this more of a collaboration that
> > a group of individuals
> > > from Rhizome making a compilation CD?
> > >
> > > Help me out here
> > > Cheers
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > > on 11/4/02 1:57 PM, Max Herman at
> > maxnmherman@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is going to have to wait for me till Jan
> > 03. I'll be off neternet
> > > > stuff till then.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> From: joseph@electrichands.com
> > > >> To: Lee Wells <leewells@bb19.net>
> > > >> CC: Max Herman <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>,
> > mt@rhizome.org,list@rhizome.org
> > > >> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Membership fee?
> > > >> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:52:32 +0000
> > > >>
> > > >> Ok lets get it organized.
> > > >>
> > > >> Max, you curate the CD show.
> > > >> Lee, you promote the show
> > > >> I will get the first 100 CDs mastered and
> > printed.
> > > >>
> > > >> We sell it for $50 bucks a peice.
> > > >>
> > > >> I cover my costs and Rhizome should net around
> > $4500
> > > >>
> > > >> Ready 2 go?
> > > >>
> > > >> joseph
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Quoting Lee Wells <leewells@bb19.net>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I donate art to Rhizome, music, images, etc.
> > The CD Idea is preaty good
> > > >> and
> > > >>> has worked for other nonprofit org like,
> > Lumpen Magazine in Chicago.
> > > >>> http://www.lumpen.com/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> on 10/25/02 2:12 AM, Max Herman at
> > maxnmherman@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Yeah, I was thinking a big fatty music CD,
> > all proceeds to Rhizome,
> > > >> I'd
> > > >>>> donate a song'r two.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> From: joseph@electrichands.com
> > > >>>>> Reply-To: joseph@electrichands.com
> > > >>>>> To: Mark Tribe <mt@rhizome.org>
> > > >>>>> CC: list@rhizome.org
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Membership fee?
> > > >>>>> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 05:45:52 +0000
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Its time to talk about industry mergers.
> > Forget the membership fees,
> > > >> very
> > > >>>>> few
> > > >>>>> will pay. If you are about to fold, either
> > fold, or start a capital
> > > >>>>> campaign
> > > >>>>> to raise 7 figures. Fold or Bold.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> joseph
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Quoting Mark Tribe <mt@rhizome.org>:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hi Rhizomers:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I am hoping to start a discussion here on
> > Raw about Rhizome's
> > > >> financial
> > > >>>>>> situation and a possible solution. This
> > email is rather long, but
> > > >> I'd
> > > >>>>>> appreciate it if you'd take the time to
> > read it through, give it
> > > >> some
> > > >>>>>> thought, and let me know what you think.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> First, some background information. It will
> > cost about $400,000 to
> > > >>>>> operate
> > > >>>>>> Rhizome.org this year. Here's how we spend
> > it: $6,000 on
> > > >> administrative
> > > >>>>>> fees (mostly processing credit card gifts);
> > $122,000 on operating
> > > >>>>> expenses
> > > >>>>>> (phone, rent, web hosting, office supplies,
> > etc.); $177,000 on
> > > >> payroll
> > > >>>>>> costs (salaries, health insurance, payroll
> > taxes, etc.); $93,000 on
> > > >>>>>> professional fees (writers, commissions,
> > consultants, etc.). These
> > > >>>>> numbers
> > > >>>>>> may seem high to some of you, but we
> > actually run a very lean,
> > > >> efficient
> > > >>>>>> operation. It simply costs a lot of money
> > to run a nonprofit
> > > >>>>> organization
> > > >>>>>> that offers as many programs to as many
> > people as we do.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> In the past, most of our revenue has come
> > from foundations, but
> > > >>>>> foundation
> > > >>>>>> support is shrinking. We had hoped to make
> > up the difference through
> > > >>>>> earned
> > > >>>>>> income from web hosting and online
> > education, but those services are
> > > >>>>>> getting off to a slow start. We have also,
> > as you surely know, tried
> > > >>>>> asking
> > > >>>>>> for voluntary contributions. But so far
> > this year only about 1% of
> > > >> our
> > > >>>>>> 19,000 members have made gifts.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The Rhizome Board of Directors met for its
> > quarterly meeting last
> > > >>>>> Friday.
> > > >>>>>> The main topic was how to solve our
> > financial problems. I proposed
> > > >>>>> putting
> > > >>>>>> the organization into hibernation mode.
> > This would entail shutting
> > > >> down
> > > >>>>> the
> > > >>>>>> office, laying off the staff and
> > discontinuing most of our programs.
> > > >> We
> > > >>>>>> would keep the web site up, ask the
> > SuperUsers to continue to
> > > >> publish
> > > >>>>>> texts, and keep Raw online. But everything
> > else would stop: no more
> > > >>>>> Digest
> > > >>>>>> or Net Art News, no more commissions, no
> > more events. We'd stop
> > > >> adding
> > > >>>>> new
> > > >>>>>> projects to the ArtBase, stop improving the
> > web site (we have a long
> > > >>>>> list
> > > >>>>>> of bugs to fix and features to add) and
> > stop planning new programs.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The Board felt that hibernation would be a
> > big mistake. Once we went
> > > >>>>> into
> > > >>>>>> hibernation, they argued, it would be very
> > hard to re-emerge and
> >
> === message truncated ===
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not sure how long this thread has been ongoing as I have been AWOL
recently... I am guessing from this that you are suggesting a CD with
various collborative works (visual/audio) from rhizome members?
If I have got the right end of what you are suggesting Why not put the
work on a someones site starting off with 'donated' static images/
text/sound files .. as open pieces which can be ripped by everybody
participating. People can then freely work the material to create
something individual which are uploaded again as open files/source
These can then taken again and added to, manipulated etc At the end
of a specified time limit you should (in theory ha!ha!) a number of
collaborative works in various forms and stages. From static to full
blown ...er, whatever. Obviously someone would have to bottom line it
but if no-one is willing to open their ftp up to everyone we can get a $0
site for $30 and hopefully the work created for the CD will be worth a lot
more than that....
My advice would also be that the works should be anonymous until
finished. That way (although pieces might be identifiable by the feel or
technology used) you would have a really cross-list involvement rather
than people who might naturally choose to work together collaborating.
If I have got the idea messed up, apologies for not being on the case...
jess.
>
>
> <How about each peice use as input, output from
> another piece on the CD? >
> I think this is a great idea -we are talking artowrks
> rather that audio CD here right?
> Why not an immediate call for participants on the
> list.
> (maybe with specific mails to people it would be good
> to target)
> Then someone ( lee, joseph?) decides an order of play.
> It's made clear that these things need to be made to a
> shortish deadline
> The first work is created and mailed or a link is sent
> to the next artist, and so on.
> The disadvantage here is that even if each artists
> make a piece in a week we're still talking 20 weeks
> so....
> ...to make it quicker I suggest the original work is
> mailed to two artists and so on - or even maybe the
> 'order of play' could be Rhizome like.
> The thing i really like about this format is that it
> feels very collective- it would also be great to have
> artists who have engaged in fairly fierce polemic on
> the list united in common cause -how about Grancher
> remixes Cloninger or vice versa &c.( maybe this is a
> bit unlikely but you get the point!)
> anyway thats my two penny worth.
> best
> michael
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > joseph (cor e form art) + (porat per ance ist)
> > frank + lyn - mc + El + roy
> >
> > go shopping ->
> > http://www.electrichands.com/shopindex.htm
> > call me 646 279 2309
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Lee Wells <leewells@bb19.net>:
> >
> > > Hello all
> > >
> > > Should we decide upon a theme?
> > > What are the primary social topics discussed on
> > Rhizome?
> > > First thing to come to mind for me was, kNOwwWARe.
> > > All just a play on words, sounds, images.
> > > I think it should make people laugh. People need
> > to laugh more.
> > > How can we make this more of a collaboration that
> > a group of individuals
> > > from Rhizome making a compilation CD?
> > >
> > > Help me out here
> > > Cheers
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > > on 11/4/02 1:57 PM, Max Herman at
> > maxnmherman@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is going to have to wait for me till Jan
> > 03. I'll be off neternet
> > > > stuff till then.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> From: joseph@electrichands.com
> > > >> To: Lee Wells <leewells@bb19.net>
> > > >> CC: Max Herman <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>,
> > mt@rhizome.org,list@rhizome.org
> > > >> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Membership fee?
> > > >> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:52:32 +0000
> > > >>
> > > >> Ok lets get it organized.
> > > >>
> > > >> Max, you curate the CD show.
> > > >> Lee, you promote the show
> > > >> I will get the first 100 CDs mastered and
> > printed.
> > > >>
> > > >> We sell it for $50 bucks a peice.
> > > >>
> > > >> I cover my costs and Rhizome should net around
> > $4500
> > > >>
> > > >> Ready 2 go?
> > > >>
> > > >> joseph
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Quoting Lee Wells <leewells@bb19.net>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I donate art to Rhizome, music, images, etc.
> > The CD Idea is preaty good
> > > >> and
> > > >>> has worked for other nonprofit org like,
> > Lumpen Magazine in Chicago.
> > > >>> http://www.lumpen.com/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> on 10/25/02 2:12 AM, Max Herman at
> > maxnmherman@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Yeah, I was thinking a big fatty music CD,
> > all proceeds to Rhizome,
> > > >> I'd
> > > >>>> donate a song'r two.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> From: joseph@electrichands.com
> > > >>>>> Reply-To: joseph@electrichands.com
> > > >>>>> To: Mark Tribe <mt@rhizome.org>
> > > >>>>> CC: list@rhizome.org
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Membership fee?
> > > >>>>> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 05:45:52 +0000
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Its time to talk about industry mergers.
> > Forget the membership fees,
> > > >> very
> > > >>>>> few
> > > >>>>> will pay. If you are about to fold, either
> > fold, or start a capital
> > > >>>>> campaign
> > > >>>>> to raise 7 figures. Fold or Bold.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> joseph
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Quoting Mark Tribe <mt@rhizome.org>:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hi Rhizomers:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I am hoping to start a discussion here on
> > Raw about Rhizome's
> > > >> financial
> > > >>>>>> situation and a possible solution. This
> > email is rather long, but
> > > >> I'd
> > > >>>>>> appreciate it if you'd take the time to
> > read it through, give it
> > > >> some
> > > >>>>>> thought, and let me know what you think.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> First, some background information. It will
> > cost about $400,000 to
> > > >>>>> operate
> > > >>>>>> Rhizome.org this year. Here's how we spend
> > it: $6,000 on
> > > >> administrative
> > > >>>>>> fees (mostly processing credit card gifts);
> > $122,000 on operating
> > > >>>>> expenses
> > > >>>>>> (phone, rent, web hosting, office supplies,
> > etc.); $177,000 on
> > > >> payroll
> > > >>>>>> costs (salaries, health insurance, payroll
> > taxes, etc.); $93,000 on
> > > >>>>>> professional fees (writers, commissions,
> > consultants, etc.). These
> > > >>>>> numbers
> > > >>>>>> may seem high to some of you, but we
> > actually run a very lean,
> > > >> efficient
> > > >>>>>> operation. It simply costs a lot of money
> > to run a nonprofit
> > > >>>>> organization
> > > >>>>>> that offers as many programs to as many
> > people as we do.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> In the past, most of our revenue has come
> > from foundations, but
> > > >>>>> foundation
> > > >>>>>> support is shrinking. We had hoped to make
> > up the difference through
> > > >>>>> earned
> > > >>>>>> income from web hosting and online
> > education, but those services are
> > > >>>>>> getting off to a slow start. We have also,
> > as you surely know, tried
> > > >>>>> asking
> > > >>>>>> for voluntary contributions. But so far
> > this year only about 1% of
> > > >> our
> > > >>>>>> 19,000 members have made gifts.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The Rhizome Board of Directors met for its
> > quarterly meeting last
> > > >>>>> Friday.
> > > >>>>>> The main topic was how to solve our
> > financial problems. I proposed
> > > >>>>> putting
> > > >>>>>> the organization into hibernation mode.
> > This would entail shutting
> > > >> down
> > > >>>>> the
> > > >>>>>> office, laying off the staff and
> > discontinuing most of our programs.
> > > >> We
> > > >>>>>> would keep the web site up, ask the
> > SuperUsers to continue to
> > > >> publish
> > > >>>>>> texts, and keep Raw online. But everything
> > else would stop: no more
> > > >>>>> Digest
> > > >>>>>> or Net Art News, no more commissions, no
> > more events. We'd stop
> > > >> adding
> > > >>>>> new
> > > >>>>>> projects to the ArtBase, stop improving the
> > web site (we have a long
> > > >>>>> list
> > > >>>>>> of bugs to fix and features to add) and
> > stop planning new programs.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The Board felt that hibernation would be a
> > big mistake. Once we went
> > > >>>>> into
> > > >>>>>> hibernation, they argued, it would be very
> > hard to re-emerge and
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
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>
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