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Jason Van Anden is a new media activist, artist, inventor and robot maker. His creations are exhibited internationally, receiving recognition in the art, science, technology and gaming communities. More about Jason and his work can be found at his website www.smileproject.com.
Re: yet even More Artstar
Was everyone else on line last Monday?
Jo-Anne Green wrote:
http://www.test.org.uk/archives/002373.html
This appears to suggest that Artstar might not be exploitive because Kartoon Kings are involved. Of the cast of characters (listed below) it seems that they would be the only artists in the pecking order that have an opportunity to "wrest control of the artworld's economic hierarchy" - kinda.
Artstar Pecking Order:
1.) Collectors with $ to burn who also watch TV
2.) Deitch Projects
3.) Kartoon Kings
4.) Artists (non-self respecting, clearly not from 70's)
Why not have an art realty tv show loosely based on "Joe Millionaire" where out of a pool of eligible gallery directors one will be selected for a chance to marry an incredibly wealthy collector?
Self-respecting artists of the 00s unite!
Jason Van Anden
Jo-Anne Green wrote:
http://www.test.org.uk/archives/002373.html
This appears to suggest that Artstar might not be exploitive because Kartoon Kings are involved. Of the cast of characters (listed below) it seems that they would be the only artists in the pecking order that have an opportunity to "wrest control of the artworld's economic hierarchy" - kinda.
Artstar Pecking Order:
1.) Collectors with $ to burn who also watch TV
2.) Deitch Projects
3.) Kartoon Kings
4.) Artists (non-self respecting, clearly not from 70's)
Why not have an art realty tv show loosely based on "Joe Millionaire" where out of a pool of eligible gallery directors one will be selected for a chance to marry an incredibly wealthy collector?
Self-respecting artists of the 00s unite!
Jason Van Anden
Re: Pod Pals
Why do you ask?
J
Matthew Mascotte wrote:
> i'm wondering where the Pod Pals project fits into the
> overall scheme of things. ok, the project calls attention
> to the importance of digital gear in our daily lives
> and is utilizing popular modes of connectivity (podcasts,
> inNetworks, etc) but is the material recently haked from
> Ms. Hilton's cell phone Art? As significant (and cool) as Mandiberg
> and Steinmetz are what is it about their upcoming moblog/podcast
> and emails that is important? What exaclty are we being
> asked to contemplate here? Not the content of the
> project (nothing has been made yet really) and as far as the
> conceptual plan is concerned I don't see how what they're doing is
> unique.
>
> Matthew
J
Matthew Mascotte wrote:
> i'm wondering where the Pod Pals project fits into the
> overall scheme of things. ok, the project calls attention
> to the importance of digital gear in our daily lives
> and is utilizing popular modes of connectivity (podcasts,
> inNetworks, etc) but is the material recently haked from
> Ms. Hilton's cell phone Art? As significant (and cool) as Mandiberg
> and Steinmetz are what is it about their upcoming moblog/podcast
> and emails that is important? What exaclty are we being
> asked to contemplate here? Not the content of the
> project (nothing has been made yet really) and as far as the
> conceptual plan is concerned I don't see how what they're doing is
> unique.
>
> Matthew
Re: yet even More Artstar
It's started shooting at any rate ...
Note the big photo of artist-clown (online at least).
Nice quote from Jeffery Deitch about how pathetic artists have become.
t.whid quoted as skeptic on same page.
Reality newspaper: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/02/arts/television/02reality.html?8hpib
Jason Van Anden
Note the big photo of artist-clown (online at least).
Nice quote from Jeffery Deitch about how pathetic artists have become.
t.whid quoted as skeptic on same page.
Reality newspaper: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/02/arts/television/02reality.html?8hpib
Jason Van Anden
Re: yet even More Artstar
I agree with Marisa that artstar most likely does not merit too deep a discussion - except in the context of parody.
I have a bunch of thoughts about this as well as her very interesting comments about the fine line between critique and participation.
Too little time to pursue the latter at the moment - but in the interest of keeping this discussion alive, here's a few questions that are raised for me if we understand artstar as parody:
What is it a parody of?
Who is the artist and who is the market?
Jason Van Anden
I have a bunch of thoughts about this as well as her very interesting comments about the fine line between critique and participation.
Too little time to pursue the latter at the moment - but in the interest of keeping this discussion alive, here's a few questions that are raised for me if we understand artstar as parody:
What is it a parody of?
Who is the artist and who is the market?
Jason Van Anden
Re: More Artstar
Thanks for the links. I checked them out, as well as your American Idol blog in more detail. I am now even more curious about where you feel parody fits in with artstar.
Marisa Olson wrote:
>Where does parody fit in, because to me, for something
to be truly successful, on a parodic level, it has to
be highly imitative...
Best,
Jason Van Anden
Marisa Olson wrote:
>Where does parody fit in, because to me, for something
to be truly successful, on a parodic level, it has to
be highly imitative...
Best,
Jason Van Anden