Ivan Pope
Since the beginning
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In the place where analogue and digital overlap, that's why you will find me in the kitchen at parties.
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DISCUSSION

Re: <nettime> rhizome or <rhizome> nettime or...


From: Are Flagan <areflagan@artpanorama.com>

> PS: Did anyone even bother to mention that it's all free on Fridays? See
you
> at happy hour.

Maybe someone could explain what it all means. What is free on Fridays?
Access to Rhizome.org? Ability to mail to the list? Ability to submit to the
archive? Somethings else? Some of the above? None of the above?

Does this mean we will get a flood of emails on Friday?

And, how many members does the Rhizome list now have?

Cheers,
Ivan

DISCUSSION

Re: Fw: Your Rhizome.org contribution


Get a $5 bill. Fold it inside a piece of paper. Send it to Rhizome. 99% will
get there no problem and its far far cheaper than any other method.
Cheers,
Ivan

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www.tochki-inc.com

"Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death"
Hunter S. Thompson
----- Original Message -----
From: Joao Pedro <oliveirapereira1@sapo.pt>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Cc: Oliveira Pereira <oliveirapereira1@sapo.pt>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:38 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Fw: Your Rhizome.org contribution

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joao Pedro" <oliveirapereira1@sapo.pt>
> To: "Francis Hwang" <francis@rhizome.org>
> Cc: "Oliveira Pereira" <oliveirapereira1@sapo.pt>
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Your Rhizome.org contribution
>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > My contribution was sent on a cheque in foreign currencie, also!
> Frankly,
> > i don't understand why rhizome during all this time, kept on silence
about
> > restrictions, special conditions and exceptions that existes in all
> payments
> > forms. The rhizomers outside EUA, that don't have credit card to making
> her
> > donation, on the PayPal system, like me, are in difficulty and you don't
> > inform how can we solve the problem! I can't send from Portugal to USA,
a
> > money order or a value declared letter! And do you know how much cost
the
> > international cheque that i sent to rhizome?... I payed 15 Euros, only
by
> > the cheque issue! I ask again: why you didn't warn before?
> > My opinion about this kind of troubles, it's only because you don't
> give
> > to rhizomers a Bank account that make possible the direct transference
of
> > money, from everywhere. That's the usual proceeding to make payments to
> > cultural institutions, educational organizations and so one! Rhizome are
a
> > exception and for that reason, in practice, foreign members don't have
the
> > same access facilities than the others that lives in USA. Today, you are
> > impose a feed contribution and more than that: you have mark out two
> > distinct areas on the map world. The area where living rhizomers that
have
> > means to pay a feed, and the area of the others that don't have means to
> do
> > that! Of course, you don't want that kind of segregation, but in
practice,
> > it existes already!
> > I don't have intention to require a credit card, only for purpose to
> done
> > a sporadical payment on PayPal! It's a very simple question: if you
can't
> > raise my cheque, believe me, in my case you don't give more 60 days to
> solve
> > the problem, because i asked on my Bank, on the post-offices and the
> answer
> > is always the same: the direct transference of the money, to a specific
> bank
> > account, is the usual proceeding on similar cases.
> > If i lose contact with rhizome because of that, it would be sad, but
> tell
> > me, will there be another solution? Actually, i don't see none! To
rhizome
> > body, it's possible to live without one limb, without ten or hundred.
So,
> > for you, what difference does it make?...
> >
> > My best wishes:
> >
> > Joao
> > oliveirapereira1@sapo.pt
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Francis Hwang" <francis@rhizome.org>
> > To: "Francis Hwang" <francis@rhizome.org>
> > Cc: "Alexis Vasilos" <alexis@rhizome.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:03 PM
> > Subject: Your Rhizome.org contribution
> >
> >
> > > Hi everybody:
> > >
> > > We recently received some donations from Rhizomers in checks in
foreign
> > > currencies. Unfortunately, our bank will not accept checks written
from
> > > foreign banks. Your checks have not been deposited.
> > >
> > > Please note our donation options, as listed on our support page at
> > > http://rhizome.org/support. We find that online credit-card payment,
> > either
> > > through our secure payment page or PayPal, to be the most trouble-free
> way
> > > of paying.
> > >
> > > In order to continue service, we will be extending your membership
> > > expiration for 60 days, until March 19.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your support, and your patience.
> > >
> > > Francis Hwang
> > > Director of Technology
> > > Rhizome.org
> > > 212-989-2363
> > >
> > > + + +
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>

DISCUSSION

Re: honest question


From: Vijay Pattisapu <disco@junglist.com>
> ####
> | - -| What's the difference between producing and consuming art?

To get to the other side.
Oops, wrong question.

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Ivan Pope
ivan@ivanpope.com
www.ivanpope.com
www.tochki-inc.com

"Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death"
Hunter S. Thompson

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: One Day Left


> From: m e t a <meta@meta.am>

> what i am objecting to, is a pattern
> that is unfortunately quite common :
>
> the administrative & executive staff are being paid
> while the creatives (the people generating rhizomes content) are not.

You say you want a revolution, well, you know, we all want to change the
world.

Which of these are true:
a) the Rhizome staff could raise enough money to pay all the artists, but
they wont because they are lazy
b) the Rhizome staff did raise enough money to pay all the artists, but they
stashed it in Bermuda because they are rapacious con merchants
c) the Rhizome staff would love to raise enough money to commission all the
artists at the same time, but they are old enough to know this is unlikely
d) the Rhizome staff do count their blessings that for the last few years
they have been able to earn a crust from a project that is both hard work
and hugely satisfying and they will find it hard to go back to slaving for
some capitalist pigs if it all goes down the drain

If the world wasnt a strange unfair place there would be nothing for artists
to do. If things like Rhizome could pay the creatives, what a fat arsed art
world it would be.

Cheers, Ivan

--
Ivan Pope
ivan@ivanpope.com

http://www.ivanpope.com
http://www.tochki-inc.com

"Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death"
Hunter S. Thompson

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: One Day Left


----- Original Message -----
From: t.whid <twhid@mteww.com>
>
> a my proposal to the main problem which is lack of true community.
>
> !!!the members of rhizome should elect the board.!!!
> this would really make the members feel like they have a real say in
> how the org is run.

Now that I like!
Ivan