Re: Re: attempting to share net.art with friends & family
Tough question. I suppose there are a variety of reasons (feedback,
recognition, encouragement, amusement, etc.) for exposing one's work to
others. Personally, I had to share it with my friends and family so they'd
stop accusing me of looking at porn 12 hours a day. :)
david goldschmidt
www.personify.tv
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From: "Ana Buigues" <abuigues@wanadoo.es>
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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:12 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: attempting to share net.art with friends & family
> David and Eduardo,
>
> What would be the point of trying to reason with people (family members,
friends, pets, or extraterrestials) who are just not in the same frequency
as you?
>
> Best,
>
> Ana
>
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recognition, encouragement, amusement, etc.) for exposing one's work to
others. Personally, I had to share it with my friends and family so they'd
stop accusing me of looking at porn 12 hours a day. :)
david goldschmidt
www.personify.tv
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ana Buigues" <abuigues@wanadoo.es>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:12 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: attempting to share net.art with friends & family
> David and Eduardo,
>
> What would be the point of trying to reason with people (family members,
friends, pets, or extraterrestials) who are just not in the same frequency
as you?
>
> Best,
>
> Ana
>
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Re: Re: attempting to share net.art with friends & family
maybe "what's the point?" ... is not a question of net.art but an answer
net.artists provoke about media content. after all, artists working in
other mediums don't have to deal with that question.
david goldschmidt
www.personify.tv
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From: "Eduardo Navas" <eduardo@navasse.net>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:02 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: attempting to share net.art with friends & family
>
> >
> > i'm curious if anyone else has had difficulty sharing net.art with
> > others. =
> > and who on rhizome has the best, funniest, weirdest response after
> > trying =
> > to expose net.art to friends/family/strangers/whatever
>
> I get the same from people, mainly when they ask me what I focus on as an
artist. When I am introduced to a complete stranger, she/he often assumes I
paint, but after visiting my website, an e-mail follows usually wondering
along the same lines as you described in your own experience -- "what is
the point in that? Or how do you sell it? You should paint! blah, blah..."
>
> I like the fact that people do not see an immediate practicality in the
medium; and that it is still a challenge for institutions to develop decent
exhibitions. The latter is a good thing because it means that net art may
be one of the hardest mediums to be marketable to the mass public. This is
all the slippery informatin based medium has left as its
institutionalization is complete by this point.
>
> Eduardo Navas
> http://navasse.net
> http://netartreview.net
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net.artists provoke about media content. after all, artists working in
other mediums don't have to deal with that question.
david goldschmidt
www.personify.tv
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eduardo Navas" <eduardo@navasse.net>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:02 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: attempting to share net.art with friends & family
>
> >
> > i'm curious if anyone else has had difficulty sharing net.art with
> > others. =
> > and who on rhizome has the best, funniest, weirdest response after
> > trying =
> > to expose net.art to friends/family/strangers/whatever
>
> I get the same from people, mainly when they ask me what I focus on as an
artist. When I am introduced to a complete stranger, she/he often assumes I
paint, but after visiting my website, an e-mail follows usually wondering
along the same lines as you described in your own experience -- "what is
the point in that? Or how do you sell it? You should paint! blah, blah..."
>
> I like the fact that people do not see an immediate practicality in the
medium; and that it is still a challenge for institutions to develop decent
exhibitions. The latter is a good thing because it means that net art may
be one of the hardest mediums to be marketable to the mass public. This is
all the slippery informatin based medium has left as its
institutionalization is complete by this point.
>
> Eduardo Navas
> http://navasse.net
> http://netartreview.net
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
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attempting to share net.art with friends & family
i've received some strange looks when exposing friends and family to net.ar=
t.
once, someone said to me "what's the point?". and for some reason i was co=
mpelled to ask him what was the point of a TV show. he stared at me blankl=
y for about a minute and then went back into the living room to watch TV. =
i think my question pissed him off a little. oh well.
i'm curious if anyone else has had difficulty sharing net.art with others. =
and who on rhizome has the best, funniest, weirdest response after trying =
to expose net.art to friends/family/strangers/whatever
david goldschmidt
www.personify.tv
t.
once, someone said to me "what's the point?". and for some reason i was co=
mpelled to ask him what was the point of a TV show. he stared at me blankl=
y for about a minute and then went back into the living room to watch TV. =
i think my question pissed him off a little. oh well.
i'm curious if anyone else has had difficulty sharing net.art with others. =
and who on rhizome has the best, funniest, weirdest response after trying =
to expose net.art to friends/family/strangers/whatever
david goldschmidt
www.personify.tv
Re: it's as if i've seen bigfoot or something
those evil fucking corporations
david goldschmidt
www.personify.tv
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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:21 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: it's as if i've seen bigfoot or something
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>
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From: "t.whid" <twhid@mteww.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:21 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: it's as if i've seen bigfoot or something
> Dear Valued Verizon Online DSL Customer:
>
> I am pleased to share some good news with you regarding your Verizon
> Online DSL Internet service. To make sure you don't miss this news,
> we're also going to send it to you by regular mail shortly.
>
> We want valued customers like you to be among the first to know that
> we're lowering our rates. And don't worry - there's nothing you need to
> do to take advantage of this price reduction.
>
> You'll now enjoy the same great service for just $34.95 a month. The
> new lower rate was effective 5/21/03. You'll see the new price
> reflected on your bill within the next two billing cycles along with a
> prorated credit back to May 21st. For more details on our lower rates,
> just visit www.verizon.net/goodnews.
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Fw: Introducing the Creative Capital Channel
Introducing the Creative Capital Channelfyi ----
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From: Email List
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: Introducing the Creative Capital Channel
Dear friends,
I am delighted to introduce The Channel, Creative Capital's new online arts=
venue for showcasing work by our grantees http://channel.creative-capital.=
org/. Catch up with these performing, visual, and emerging fields artists, =
and film- and videomakers in the "Tune in to Artists" program of The Channe=
l. With webcasts, a searchable database, and a comprehensive arts calendar,=
you can watch a video, listen to a performance, tour a virtual installatio=
n, and Channel-surf to find out about upcoming grantee activities.
Enjoy and stay tuned!
Ruby Lerner
Executive Director
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Athena Robles, (212) 598-9900, ext. 238
CREATIVE CAPITAL INTRODUCES THE CHANNEL, AN ONLINE ARTS VENUE SHOWCASING GR=
ANTEE WORK
Redesign of website features webcasts, e-artwork, interviews, and more
NEW YORK, NY (June 5, 2003)
----- Original Message -----
From: Email List
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: Introducing the Creative Capital Channel
Dear friends,
I am delighted to introduce The Channel, Creative Capital's new online arts=
venue for showcasing work by our grantees http://channel.creative-capital.=
org/. Catch up with these performing, visual, and emerging fields artists, =
and film- and videomakers in the "Tune in to Artists" program of The Channe=
l. With webcasts, a searchable database, and a comprehensive arts calendar,=
you can watch a video, listen to a performance, tour a virtual installatio=
n, and Channel-surf to find out about upcoming grantee activities.
Enjoy and stay tuned!
Ruby Lerner
Executive Director
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Athena Robles, (212) 598-9900, ext. 238
CREATIVE CAPITAL INTRODUCES THE CHANNEL, AN ONLINE ARTS VENUE SHOWCASING GR=
ANTEE WORK
Redesign of website features webcasts, e-artwork, interviews, and more
NEW YORK, NY (June 5, 2003)