curt cloninger
Since the beginning
Works in Canton, North Carolina United States of America

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BIO
Curt Cloninger is an artist, writer, and Associate Professor of New Media at the University of North Carolina Asheville. His art undermines language as a system of meaning in order to reveal it as an embodied force in the world. His art work has been featured in the New York Times and at festivals and galleries from Korea to Brazil. Exhibition venues include Centre Georges Pompidou (Paris), Granoff Center for The Creative Arts (Brown University), Digital Art Museum [DAM] (Berlin), Ukrainian Institute of Modern Art (Chicago), Black Mountain College Museum + Arts Center, and the internet. He is the recipient of several grants and awards, including commissions for the creation of new artwork from the National Endowment for the Arts (via Turbulence.org) and Austin Peay State University's Terminal Award.

Cloninger has written on a wide range of topics, including new media and internet art, installation and performance art, experimental graphic design, popular music, network culture, and continental philosophy. His articles have appeared in Intelligent Agent, Mute, Paste, Tekka, Rhizome Digest, A List Apart, and on ABC World News. He is also the author of eight books, most recently One Per Year (Link Editions). He maintains lab404.com, playdamage.org , and deepyoung.org in hopes of facilitating a more lively remote dialogue with the Sundry Contagions of Wonder.
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DISCUSSION

Re: Re: Re: Sarawut Chutiwongpeti


Doh! Only two people have ever asked to be linked from http://deepyoung.org
(That's not including Turbulence's request for me to un-deeplink something.)

Nevertheless, we are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the
dreams. What doesn't go on your faculty record makes you stronger.
If it bleeds, we can kill it. (That last one is from Arnold in
Predator.)

curt

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At 12:10 AM -0500 10/30/03, Eryk Salvaggio wrote:
>All I know is, my salvaggio-museum account got like 50 emails introducing
>him/her at least once a month. Fine and good if a little bit on the Grancher
>side (Grancher spams museums too, it looks like, including mine).
>
>-e.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "curt cloninger" <curt@lab404.com>
>To: <list@rhizome.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 10:22 PM
>Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Re: Sarawut Chutiwongpeti
>
>
>> sarawut was here:
>> http://playdamage.org/chaos/
>> 11/23/01
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>> Eryk Salvaggio wrote:
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>> > Sarawut also spams like nobody's dirty buisiness.
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>> > -e.
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Re: Re: Sarawut Chutiwongpeti


sarawut was here:
http://playdamage.org/chaos/
11/23/01
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Eryk Salvaggio wrote:

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> Sarawut also spams like nobody's dirty buisiness.
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> -e.

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Re: Fw: <nettime> Re: [0100101110110101.ORG] FOR SALE


For what it's worth, I love this piece by Florian Cramer:
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~cantsin/permutations/index.cgi

But Babe Ruth struck out a lot too, or so they tell me.

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Eduardo Navas wrote:

> Thought this would be interesting to entertain in relation to Kurt's
> appraisal of the conceptual masterpiece...
>
> Best,
>
> Eduardo Navas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <nuria_oliv@hotmail.com>
> To: "nettime" <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:35 PM
> Subject: <nettime> Re: [0100101110110101.ORG] FOR SALE
>
>
> > btw, the fake one is owned by Florian Cramer :-p

DISCUSSION

Re: Re: [0100101110110101.ORG] FOR SALE


Much as it galls me to come out of sarcastic character and be earnest (because in doing so I risk imbuing this piece with more portent than it's due), I probably should clarify.

In dissing net art news' potential coverage of this piece, I am dissing the propensity of every contemporary net art curator, critic, pundit, and theorist (myself included) to promote a piece simply because "it makes good copy."

As I explained offlist:
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Promoters and marketers package their promotions in byte-size, news-friendly happenings. The product need not be good. The promotion need not even be particularly clever. It just has to "fit" the news media. Something about the nature of the promotion has to cause some newsman to have the pavlovian response, "that'd make great copy!" and the news media will cover the event simply because it fits.

There is a type of net art that works the same way. It has to be encoded just enough for someone (the whitney, neural, mute, rhizome, whomever) to think, "ah hah! I get it, it fits the genre, and I can explain it with a bit of theoretical insight!" and down the pipe it travels.
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I admit that there is a type of skill involved in conceiving a press-worthy gimick, but that type of skill has little to do with anything I value. It's the same skill that Nike's marketers use to brand their products. The fact that 0101 uses a similar marketing approach to brand their piece to the net art world undermines the critical value of their piece. They're less interested in demoting Nike and more interested in promoting their demotion of Nike.

Then somebody (themselves probably) spoofs their domain name and markets that prank to the net art world. And the sound byte fits, so we pass it on. And all this tail chasing reminds me of the newsmen in the gulf war doing reports on the news coverage of the gulf war. Zzzzzzzz.

Does the fact that I'm thinking about these issues make these work(s) successful?
Does the fact that I'm forced to dig a grave for a dead dog make the dog successful?

churn on, ye merry clowns,
curt

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k-hello.org wrote:

> The "art" website is HTTP://0100101110101101.ORG and it works,
> the "false" website is HTTP://0100101110110101.ORG
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> You can see that the two urls are different.
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> THE REAL BUSINESS IS WHEN THERE IS NO BUSINESS.
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> www.k-hello.org
> digital solutions to everyday-life problems.